00:18:54 <bo> what run in run out is this?
00:47:48 <bananajoe> hi guys, here's my newbie-question about FEES in the book "mastering monero" in section 5.5.3.3: why are fees per kB calculated at all? are fees for transactions defined by "the system" using a formula? or are fees rather defined by the user doing the transaction - meant as an offer to the miners to include the user's transaction into a block?
01:44:08 <bananajoe> ping8-)
02:03:19 <ofrnxmr> Seems that the room defed from matrix
02:03:37 <ofrnxmr> Irc has * defed
02:04:44 <ofrnxmr> Fees per kb is because you pay for storage and you pay more to raise the storage caps
02:04:58 <ofrnxmr> Aka blockspace and blocksize 
02:07:58 <plowsof> m-relay pls don't leave us yet DataHoarder
03:00:03 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero Issue 229: February 23 - March 2, 2025. https://www.revuo-xmr.com/weekly/issue-229/
03:58:06 <gingeropolous> well thats fun. trying to test things out and my wallet is stuck when trying to make a tx, and im using the tagged release
03:58:15 <gingeropolous> been sitting here for like 30 mins
03:58:39 <gingeropolous> got 100% cpu activity....
03:58:49 <gingeropolous> testnet
03:59:41 <gingeropolous> well maybe it'll work by morning. i guess it went bonkers trying to find 20 testnero to use out of Balance: 336209.57374276049
04:00:10 <gingeropolous> oh shit of course it now works
04:00:27 <gingeropolous> "Transaction spends more than one very old output." well why'd you pick it then?
04:07:08 <gingeropolous> dang, y'all seen this? https://xmr.ditatompel.com/remote-nodes
07:30:05 <DataHoarder> mrelat ded in a netsplit
07:30:15 <DataHoarder> I will bring it later once I can SSH
09:13:41 <m-relay> <h​avenouser:monero.social> these coins are just fake traded on CEXs and btw cryptography is a hoax
11:55:12 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> who wants some testnero?
11:59:16 <m-relay> <m​mxxx:monero.social> who wants to tell me why i cannot connect my ledger to feather wallet?
12:01:12 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> i assume you've googled the shit outta this?
12:02:23 <m-relay> <m​mxxx:monero.social> i have
12:02:28 <m-relay> <m​mxxx:monero.social> wasted hours
12:02:42 <m-relay> <m​mxxx:monero.social> i worked just dandy formerly
12:03:24 <m-relay> <m​mxxx:monero.social> didn't use it for few months and now it doesn't work on more than one distro
12:03:35 <m-relay> <m​mxxx:monero.social> tried different cables
12:05:58 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> plowsof: ^ ?
12:06:21 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> i don't use any hardware wallets so i really can't help except ping those that might be able to help
12:06:55 <m-relay> <3​k_:matrix.org> Since i switched over to mint, i am having issues with my ledger as well, always need to do some weird process to get it recognized
12:07:32 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> i would also try to contact the ledger ppl.
12:07:52 <m-relay> <f​areve:matrix.org> @3k_:matrix.orgdidnt ledger have a data breach?
12:08:45 <m-relay> <3​k_:matrix.org> several years ago, yes
12:10:24 <gingeropolous> huh. made a new subaddress, [wallet A19uuq]: address new this is a subaddress, 1  Be3sTdM6FwKPgTH9kvtfrQWritaAUsMFrdZ9XARfuJj2KVti8S5bXRaXZfNc8ZCZrphkMC2QvqMPG4hQpLTY58NL7N8KFMM  this is a subaddress , and then moved the wallet files, reloaded , and now account doesn't list my label:          1 Baa6YU      161.671360000000      161.671360000000      Untitled account
12:41:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Use the release binaries
12:50:38 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> mmxxx: featherwallet version?
12:51:46 <uncle_rae> 2.7.0
13:08:12 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Oh smh, feather 🥲
13:08:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thanks plow
13:08:53 <m-relay> <s​yringes:matrix.org> Hello there ofrn
13:22:28 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> ledger ticket resolved, will follow up with customer in 24 hours to sign them up to a yearly maintenance plan + upsell device gingeropolous
13:34:41 <gingeropolous> lol
13:42:38 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> need an ai support bot
14:31:11 <nioc> ofrnAI
16:00:54 <m-relay> <c​rz:matrix.org> lol
20:53:47 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/recommend-current-trezor-safe-3-5-hardware-cold-wallets/25358
20:53:53 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> Any opinions for Monero?
21:03:00 <m-relay> <p​reland:monero.social> Flash the bios of some Chinese knockoff headphones and hide your cold address in there 🎧
21:12:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I use fridge magnets
21:12:50 <m-relay> <m​mxxx:monero.social> o_0
21:13:11 <m-relay> <m​mxxx:monero.social> rando: opinions or options?
21:14:07 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> opinions if anyone wants to add anything
21:17:24 <rbrunner> On the serious side: I think we should more aggressively push the "your old Android phone as hardware wallet" for Monero
21:19:53 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Be a real men
21:20:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Rbrunner, that reply was to preland
21:20:29 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> make a giant Tupperware with 256 toasts, 1 is normal, 0 is grilled
21:20:45 <hashem> o_0
21:21:24 <m-relay> <p​reland:monero.social> 😂
21:21:53 <rbrunner> ofrnxmr: :) I was answering to that privacyguide hardware wallet question
21:21:56 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> https://old.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/1b8pgt1/closed_source_wallets_what_is_this_insanity/ktufifa/?context=3#ktufifa
21:21:57 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> >Keystone relies on a closed source Android-based OS, which nobody has audited either. You're trusting a (Chinese) company with your funds.
21:21:59 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> Anyone know what does that mean? I heard that their companion app is closed is that what OP was implying but instead called it OS for some reason?
21:25:28 <m-relay> <l​za_menace:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/CDvosuqdMZPOunislwLuartA
21:31:16 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> so true
21:32:56 <m-relay> <m​mxxx:monero.social> rando: https://moneromarket.io/listing/994b8302-43f8-4229-87d4-a7843ea25cbd