13:17:29 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> Hello I am very new to monero (synced the blockchain yesterday) and was wondering where the best place is to buy monero for gift cards?
13:18:54 <m-relay> <n​okyc-cards:matrix.org> What do you mean buying Monero for gift cards?
13:18:54 <m-relay> <n​okyc-cards:matrix.org> Which gift cards?
13:19:56 <m-relay> <n​okyc-cards:matrix.org> What do you mean buying Monero for gift cards?
13:19:56 <m-relay> <n​okyc-cards:matrix.org> Which gift cards?
13:20:00 <moneromooo> AFAIK gift cards are a large conduit for scams, so, unless you're trying to scam, I would consider another way to buy.
13:20:36 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> they seem to be most private to me? Or am I understanding something wrong?
13:20:46 <moneromooo> Then again, if people are willing to take the risk, haveno (reto swap) might support this.
13:21:23 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> what other ways are there to buy monero privately (especially in germany=
13:21:26 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> what other ways are there to buy monero privately (especially in germany)
13:21:53 <moneromooo> Also look at haveno.
13:22:36 <moneromooo> It's p2p trades so people offer for various payment methods, including cash on meetup (take appropriate precautions), etc.
14:15:26 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/oUAOpBddkeHbhtNiderxwqEl
14:15:29 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> I dont quite understand Haveno and it says "no seed nodes available"
14:15:45 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> Im also not sure if had to blur the block thingy
14:16:16 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> like I said im very new to monero and crypto in general
14:17:09 <moneromooo> If you're new, you could go the easy path and use a KYC exchange. Once you withdraw your monero you can then use it privately.
14:17:17 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No, didnt have to blur
14:17:40 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Just buggy
14:17:51 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> Can I use it with being under 18?
14:18:46 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Happening to a lot of people recently. just wait, if not working after a few (like 5-10) mins, try again
14:18:57 <moneromooo> Ah, I guess it might limit your options indeed... Sorry, no other suggestions.
14:21:40 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> Is there any certain setup required for it on linux? I thought that I had misconfigured it (arch always needs setup)
14:22:08 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No, it should just work
14:46:06 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> Well after 30min it still isnt available
15:48:56 <revuoxmr> Revuo Monero Issue 239: May 18 - 25, 2025. https://www.revuo-xmr.com/weekly/issue-239/
17:12:47 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> I also get this error on startup:
17:12:48 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> Warning
17:12:50 <m-relay> <d​reuzzz1:matrix.org> We did not receive a filter object from the seed nodes. Please inform the network administrators to register a filter object.
17:24:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> same problem
17:24:37 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> #haveno:monero.social
17:24:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Seems to be happening a lot lately
17:39:41 <m-relay> <b​aileyp:matrix.org> I have a question, can you private dm me?
17:39:50 <m-relay> <b​aileyp:matrix.org> Regarding the cards you provide
17:53:00 <m-relay> <n​okyc-cards:matrix.org> Okay
19:01:58 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> someone know how i can have some monero in exchange of physical cash, prepaid cards, etc... ? please (only anonymous payments)
19:02:30 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> someone know how i can have some monero in exchange of physical cash, prepaid cards, etc... ? please 
19:02:30 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> (only anonymous payments, for security and privacy reasons)
19:03:00 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> hello, i'm new in crypto stuff, someone know how i can have some monero in exchange of physical cash, prepaid cards, etc... ? please
19:03:02 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> (only anonymous payments, for security and privacy reasons)
19:05:23 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Haveno (retoswap.com) for cash by mail offers, coincards.com for cards
19:06:14 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> cash by mail, i'm not sure if i know that, you have more informations about that ? please
19:08:37 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> https://docs.haveno.exchange/the-project/payment_methods/Pay_By_Mail/
19:08:41 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> is not what i search, i want receive monero in exchange of money (anonymous payments only)
19:09:07 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> coincards is for buying giftcards with monero, is not what i need now
19:09:08 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Yeah you can send cash by mail and get XMR ....
19:09:19 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> You can buy prepaid debit cards too ?
19:09:32 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> but i don't have contacts for that ?
19:09:46 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> That's the point of Haveno
19:09:53 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> There's public offers
19:09:59 <m-relay> <n​okyc-cards:matrix.org> You can check our website or DM me for more information
19:10:02 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> actually i want buy monero
19:10:10 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> for a good price
19:10:38 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> but i'm new to that, and i don't want scam, etc...
19:11:10 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> You want to sell prepaid gift cards for XMR?
19:11:22 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Haveno has an Amazon eGift card payment option
19:11:28 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> and i don't have the hardware for a good mining ecosystem, it's why i want buying some XMR
19:11:55 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> yes, or with others anonymous payments
19:12:16 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> .
19:12:38 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> i need contacts for that ^^"
19:12:48 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> i don't have it
19:12:59 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> My brother in Christ, that is what Haveno is for
19:13:07 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> That's why I linked Haveno
19:14:21 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> One day Haveno will be written in Rust and it will run at 300fps
19:14:29 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Haveno lists offers. You, as buyer, pick offer. Both seller/buyer lock up XMR in escrow, buyer sends fiat payment, seller confirms fiat payment, escrowed XMR is released to buyer
19:15:51 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> So you don't need to trust counter-parties or have "contacts" if you trust Haveno arbitrators.  Make sure to document your side of the transaction (sending fiat) though
19:18:23 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> on the site i don't see they accept gift cards for payments ?
19:20:22 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/EHhUefdZckxUpbKRQyMCCWZP
19:20:26 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> it does
19:21:15 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> I wouldn't bother with that tho IMO, liquidity is terrible there's no open offers
19:21:35 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Although that DOES mean that if you're the first one, you get to be THE market maker
19:22:39 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Monopoly
19:24:09 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> and how cardless cash work, it's face-to-face in real life, send by mailport, or others ?
19:24:25 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> i see they accept physical cash, so i ask how that work
19:24:43 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> > <@syntheticbird:monero.social> sent an image.
19:24:44 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> and how cardless cash work, it's face-to-face in real life, send by mailpost, or others ?
19:25:22 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Face to Face is a different payment method (and therefore offer), same for Pay by mail aka Cash by mail. I don't know what cardless cash is supposed to be ngl
19:25:40 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> ah ok
19:25:46 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> In my country.
19:25:48 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> It mean that your going to receive a code.
19:25:50 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> You then go to random ATM, type code, wait for the money to flow and then take the money
19:26:07 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> bro
19:26:12 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> magic wormhole but for cash
19:26:16 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> incredible
19:26:33 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Yeah, I actually call it the money teleporter 😂
19:26:43 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> haha
19:28:35 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> they folks, i can try haveno soon, i just need to wait for my pay before
19:28:53 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> thabks folks, i can try haveno soon, i just need to wait for my pay before
19:29:00 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> thanks folks, i can try haveno soon, i just need to wait for my pay before
19:29:43 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> fpr the first time i will try a small amount just to be sure is secure, and no scam
19:29:51 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> for the first time i will try a small amount just to be sure is secure, and no scam
19:30:30 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Use retoswap.com for the downloads, avoid everything else like the plague, especially haveno dot com
19:34:55 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> haveno.exchange is an awesome education site, but doesn't contain any downloads / isn't it's own instance
19:35:16 <moneromooo> Ouch. Fucking squatters :/
19:35:33 <moneromooo> Are these ones serving malicious software ?
19:36:06 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Yeah haveno dot com is Kewbit's site with the shady closed-source binaries
19:38:19 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> He also runs Haveno Aloha
19:39:18 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> password: "boner"
19:40:51 <m-relay> <x​3cc:nope.chat> Yea in my country too, but with QR codes, US doesn’t have this because their banking system is very old and conservative
19:41:22 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> yeah i prefer stay open-source and preferably "libre"
19:42:11 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> i can accept some proprietary blobs but only if that for a good  security reason
19:43:52 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> We have QR codes payments in the US where you can *pay* in cash, but the dollars have to end up in a KYC'ed bank account
19:44:36 <m-relay> <x​3cc:nope.chat> For payments but not for withdrawal?
19:44:48 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> Yeah :/
19:44:50 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> like qubesos is not 100% libre
19:45:24 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> It's mainly used for when lazy landlords want people to be able to pay in cash, but don't actually want to deal with accepting it physically
19:45:29 <m-relay> <n​ighthawk:jameskitt616.one> like qubesos is not 100% libre (free)
19:48:06 <Pyongyang_cutie> https://ibb.co/B2p8FgNd
19:52:52 <m-relay> <x​3cc:nope.chat> Sounds like a convenient feature, but withdrawal with QR is best, it’s like using any ATM to turn Monero into cash without ever contacting any bank
19:53:08 <m-relay> <x​3cc:nope.chat> But cameras on ATM can make you KYCed
19:53:38 <m-relay> <j​effro256:monero.social> sunglasses + tape
19:54:08 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> just go there in full covid gear
19:54:28 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> But you also have to protect you eyes and hairs from the sun
20:00:11 <moneromooo> Wouldn't be very easy to walk around dressed as a large ball with spikes everywhere...
20:05:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ofrn reacted to moo with 🤣
20:07:16 <Pyongyang_cutie> no one likes my meme?
20:07:25 <Pyongyang_cutie> :O
20:32:36 <plowsof> i assume pyongyang_cutie is malicious? and the link too? (was this why i was pinged after?) 
20:35:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Idk, didnt click link
20:36:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> False alarm, i think syn "shot first, asked questions later"
20:38:28 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> same, was shared in monero portugal and akio scraped a "meme" from the title , false alarm Pyongyang_cutie sharing image links randomly will do that i guess