00:00:17 <m-relay> <g​ogo2464:matrix.org> sounds like mont pelerin... What payment method should I use please?
05:19:43 <m-relay> <b​obsacmanto:matrix.org> Can someone setup a trade on haveno that does not require the buyer to haave xmr locked up but require them to have btc locked up or another crypto locked up?
12:56:30 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> I am interested to know more about retoswap where can i find the proper channel?
12:57:39 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> Technically the UI/UX amazing, Tor is not slow connection is very easy and fast , setting up local node is easy if you already have monero gui 
12:57:39 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> How did they do it? Powering it with haveno and Tor this way
12:58:21 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> I know its basically haveno doing the most work but its amazing experience
12:58:27 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> i love retoswap
12:58:36 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> Right?
12:58:42 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> took me a while to learn how to use it, switching from windows to linux
12:58:50 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> but dang i love it
12:58:59 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> in fact lemme check the markets
12:59:00 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> Its impossible to censor I can’t buy any coin in my country without kyc but retoswap changed this
12:59:02 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> see whos selling
12:59:16 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> well Ashven i tend not to buy if i can help it
12:59:47 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> i kinda earn cryptocurrency via blockchain blogging platforms...i convert my earnings to ltc then to xmr
12:59:52 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> but if i did buy, reto all the way
12:59:57 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> In my country even reputable p2p can’t function without taking kyc
13:00:07 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> Reto just amazing work
13:00:34 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> Just buy gift card and there you go
13:00:37 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> Lol
13:01:47 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> yeah it's amazing
13:01:49 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> where do you hail from?
13:01:51 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> Yeah i am trying to understand how reto did it i want to do some coding and help cashScript community by contributing
13:02:15 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> ME
13:02:43 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> All card rejection of payment of crypto
13:03:09 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> In terms of p2p if the guy didn’t have kyc bank account get shut down
13:05:03 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> ME?
13:05:27 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> Ash, do you mind if i message you privately?
13:06:01 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> Middle East
13:06:16 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> ahh
13:06:19 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> Cant say where specifically for security reasons
13:06:26 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> that's fine my man
13:06:32 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> much respect to the M.E peoples
13:06:47 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> may i message you privately?
13:06:52 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> not trying to sell you nothing, don't worry
13:07:00 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> We have small cypherpunk and miner communities
13:07:07 <m-relay> <a​shven:matrix.org> No problem
13:07:13 <m-relay> <b​rave-smoke:matrix.org> cool
13:12:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Simplex
13:12:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Or Haveno Lounge
13:50:46 <m-relay> <o​cean:nope.chat> "server is banned from room" lame
14:30:56 <m-relay> <o​cean:nope.chat> cheers
16:33:35 <great_taste> @xmr
16:33:37 <wavebot> 324.45
23:47:04 <m-relay> <r​eal_human:matrix.org> What is a good simple site a can use to buy monero, I dont need fancy I just want decent rates and the ability to buy it with a visa card without going through kyc annoyances
23:47:06 <m-relay> <r​eal_human:matrix.org> I only need about 100$ done so its not that much but I wanna get it done quickly with spending as little as I can in fees although that to an extent is less important than just being able to get it and use it
23:47:59 <wafflefrie> localmonero
23:51:37 <m-relay> <r​eal_human:matrix.org> This one?
23:51:54 <m-relay> <r​eal_human:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/wLOUZmlqYvCusiGKvuVHcaQk
23:52:35 <wafflefrie> I don't know it's just some service that some people may have used before
23:55:28 <m-relay> <r​eal_human:matrix.org> Yeah, I looked and everywhere I have seen says they are winding down
23:57:40 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Kyc will be required if you purchase with a credit card. Even if where you but it dont ask for a full pedigree, you still have all your data on file at your bank.
23:57:57 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Kyc will be required if you purchase with a credit card. Even if, where you buy it dont ask for a full pedigree, you still have all your data on file at your bank.
23:58:53 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> I thinl cake wallet do credit card purchase (if supported in your location and if your bank allow you to buy crypto)
23:59:29 <m-relay> <r​eal_human:matrix.org> I was gonna use a visa gift card I bought with cash to get it