01:40:46 21:39 ​ ​I ate so good today.. Steak filet and ribeye with asparagus broccoli and mashed potatoes and key lime pie with the bros :) in honor of the tari devs :P 01:41:18 Posted in pools first 02:23:01 gm gm gm 04:32:05 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Cat on keyboard ? 04:52:56 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/monero.social/oExnQyEKbGFWTVHWpeHcPPLx 04:58:36 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1463112 15:05:46 just use moleswap.xyz 15:06:37 atomic swap without kyc/aml policy 15:12:38 Lol, joins room, shills never-before-heard-of "atomic" swap _website_ lollolol 15:14:02 Just use basicswapdex or unstoppableswap 15:14:08 Only 2 providers i trust 15:14:22 trocador? 15:14:32 Trocador isn't atomic swaps 15:15:55 as long as I get my coins swapped 15:16:24 And contribute to centralization and risk getting Shotgun kycd 15:16:48 Also higher fees 15:16:49 since when is trocador centralized 15:17:10 Since always? 15:17:33 They aggregate centralized partners. They're not offering the service but a small list of people is 15:17:50 They get to pick the fees and who to kyc 15:18:40 Never had kyc issues with them ever and swapped more than 6f in total 15:19:13 always swap in increments too 15:19:17 Oh well you're lucky 15:19:30 Someone with tainted coins won't have such luck 15:20:46 they usually mark it as “tainted” when youre swapping with big amounts 15:20:49 had this with changenow before 15:21:06 60k frozen 15:21:31 They can mark coins as tainted when your peer in p2p platforms got them illegaly 15:21:41 They shouldn't have the ability to freeze or seize your funds at all 15:24:20 i agree 15:25:10 what u think of moleswap? 15:25:32 i like their UI compared to other swaps 15:25:49 I have never used them and don't trust them 15:26:07 You should use the service for the function not the ui 15:26:29 Unstoppableswap is completely decentralized and has lower fees 15:26:58 (Only network fees) 15:27:27 of course but thats just extra plus 15:28:36 how much fees for a $10k btc to xmr swap? 15:30:48 Btc network fees 15:31:29 Where on most centralized platforms it's network fees + 2-10% 15:31:56 yeah i know 19:39:09 Looking for Pero! 20:09:23 FYI https://x.com/c___f___b/status/1931639596846084536 20:13:08 Why use a public mining pool? 20:13:18 just another X hype / drama. 20:13:38 Just some dude shilling 20:52:08 We (MAGIC) have a new campaign to develop fuzzing harnesses for the monero RPC handlers, providing better assurances of code safety and security even after FCMP. Please consider donating. 20:52:10 https://donate.magicgrants.org/monero/projects/fuzzing-monero-rpc 21:10:59 This guy is so up his ass its incredible 21:18:29 I *am* curious about their scaling claims though 21:18:30 It seems like their chain isn’t exactly built for normal people to be able to run, you basically need to have Threadripper class hardware to run a node 21:18:43 what is Qubic and how does it achieve its claims (if it does) ? 21:18:53 (I think; their documentation is a bit confusing) 21:19:18 It seems to be some sort of AI/Ethereum/Nano combination thingy? 21:19:28 AI? 21:19:58 Tbh I’m just waiting to try and stress test it, since the coin is shitcoin cheap and there are no transaction fees 21:20:10 Yeah, they seem really “Altman” pulled in their marketing 21:20:19 Yeah, they seem really “Altman” pilled* in their marketing 21:21:15 I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt until I see cracks lol 21:21:19 They have much money for that bullshit that's for sure 21:21:46 Yeah the hardware specs for the nodes alone explains how they were able to get such a high hashrate out of the blue 21:25:22 Currently I’m fishing for answers on whether or not the blockchain is stored indefinitely (or removed) 21:25:24 Because if it is stored….it doesn’t matter if a transaction only takes a byte and they can support 15M tps; that’s still an increase in blockchain size of ~2MB per second, and that can only go on for so long 21:26:03 yeah but soon they are gonna say that they are zk pruning at a rate of 2MB per se 21:26:04 yeah but soon they are gonna say that they are zk pruning at a rate of 2MB per sec 21:27:57 I don’t think I can trust their scalability claims in good faith unless they run the stresstest for a week straight (they have this epoch thingy that splits up the blocks), because at that (lowest possible value) rate the *memory* of the nodes would completely fill up in around 11.5 days. 21:37:38 I’ll have to look into Qubic further later; there just seems to be a number of rather odd decisions and unexplained things about it 21:43:25 I do think that it could probably be flood attacked if someone cared to do so 21:43:43 Probably not worth it tbh 21:54:43 Hello. How can I get / buy monero? I just installed the client today 21:55:40 should I mine? 22:09:43 Or can I convert other money from mont pelerin eg etehrem? I want to remain anonymous. I would like to send money from eth but my src eth should not reveal the dst monero. 22:09:49 If it's stored forever but does 1tx/day, i think it will do just fine 22:10:18 oh! wait! if I simply send the exchange... it will not as it is monero? 22:10:37 If swapping out of eth, you can use something like trocador.app 22:10:55 It sounds like they just straight up yeet the whole blockchain every week and store it in “archive nodes” for safekeeping 22:11:19 thank you!!! 22:11:36 Its probably vaporware 22:12:00 Note: i have not even looked for a git repo 22:12:27 I’m lowkey hoping it’s not, because if it isn’t and it isn’t just hopelessly centralized in some stupid way….it can probably be lifted over here 22:13:24 They seem to be using it in the hopes that they can create a gigantic decentralized Skynet 22:13:24 …in comparison, our goals are a lot more….concise 22:13:58 My guess: 22:14:00 its an entity that is malicious to monero, that controls or has access to datacenters. They mine monero, dump it to suppress the price and to pay the datacenter bills, and wash trade qubic on their pokemon exchange 22:14:42 They claim qubic is profitable, but i highly doubt that you can sell any qubic without crashing the market, if at all. 22:14:58 They keep (and dump) the xmr - they dont reward it to the miners 22:15:19 Think if it like this: you mine my shitcoin, i keep the xmr, you get my shitcoin 22:16:31 Essentially, you're funneling the vakue of your xmr mining rewards into ny scamtoken. I hold xmr, you hold the bag 22:17:57 I doubt fully that qubic can withstand any actual sell pressure. Its possible that its not even a real blockchain, and youre just being ripped off entirely 22:18:20 Yeah it sounds like they are auto selling their XMR (and Tari) for tether (so if you figure out where they are swapping….easy arbitrage opportunity there’s 22:18:33 Like "you mine xmr, and give 100% id it to me, and i'll send you an email in return" 22:19:04 give 100% of* it to me 22:20:02 Lol 22:25:52 file ima_67b6dd9.png too big to download (3274529 > allowed size: 1000000) 22:25:54 ima_67b6dd9.png 22:26:23 (Some1 in the Qubic discord made that meme and thought I’d share it because of relevance) 22:32:39 Also uh 22:35:03 Apparently there is a discord linked on getmonero.org that the Qubic people think is officially ran by Monero 22:35:04 And said discord server times out people for a week for saying Qubic (including me)….. 22:35:06 This isn’t going to end well if that isn’t addressed 22:35:08 plowsof 22:35:52 (As always sry for the ping, just hoping that things cool down before heating up) 22:43:24 Wut 22:43:51 monerobull do you happen to know whats going on in the discords? 22:44:00 Yeah I didn’t believe it either 22:44:02 https://www.getmonero.org/community/hangouts/ 22:44:04 "this isnt going to end well" for whom? 22:44:12 It’s the stupid badge icon 22:44:20 Both 22:44:29 No one wins from unnecessary drama 22:48:45 Try referring to it as kewbic if there are any automated filters in place 22:49:15 ? 22:49:31 > monerobull do you happen to know whats going on in the discords? 22:49:40 i think sgp left and he was the only real admin 22:50:01 The last i heard of discord is that nobody moderates there and its out of control (one reason why the bridge was removed) 22:50:02 i got locked out of my discord account after they changed it to requiring a phone number 22:50:34 after sgp left we had no way to effectively moderate anymore and it was mostly abandoned 22:51:16 Ah thanks for bringing us up to speed 22:52:23 there is a way to get back admin powers but it requires you to KYC with discord lol 23:37:36 Discord is spyware anyway 23:45:54 limit a malware lol