07:38:58 <sech1> YUiNA second line is uncle shares (80% of the full share weight). Uncle shares should be rare if your network ping is low
07:56:35 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> wtf, shit sucks
07:56:41 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> buggy as hell
08:01:39 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I've installed portmaster 5 times
08:01:49 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 5 times portmaster was buggy as hell
08:01:58 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> unit tests are very important
08:58:28 <nioc> diego stack wallet has an issue restoring a wallet with a 25 word seed
09:00:51 <nioc> When I try ro select 25 word, 16 is populated by default, I can't because the place to select it is where the phone controls at the bottom of the screen cover it
09:01:14 <nioc> Android, you can see it but can't select it
09:01:37 <nioc> Screen won't rotate so.
09:06:25 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> Diego Salazar
09:07:07 <nioc> DiegoSalazar maybe that pings him  ;D
09:07:23 <nioc> It's the latest android version 
09:11:03 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nioc is a cat and therefore do not have access to github
09:11:11 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> this is discriminatory policy
09:13:24 <plowsof> nioc and definitely clicking once on the screen doesnt hide the controls at the bottom blocking the button? 
09:13:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I cant reproduce :/
09:14:21 <plowsof> The phones back / home buttons i assume are overlaying (seems to be a issue specific to that phone 
09:14:21 <nioc> plowsof: please hold 
09:15:10 <plowsof> Worth a try, clicking near the top/somewhere other than the bottom D: otherwise find the technical support office at monerokon 
09:16:38 <nioc> plowsof: tapping anywhere on the screen makes the option of selecting a seed length disappear 
09:19:20 <plowsof> So the "phrase length" radio button for 25 is behind the phone controls (home . Tabs.)
09:20:11 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Lol, it regressed!
09:20:11 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Last time I only installed it one time but of course I needed to do some manuel work (my distrib was not supported)..
09:20:13 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Nothing beat my vpn shenabigans directly configured in the router in term of reliability and especially performance (home made vpn made with love).
11:37:45 <nioc> I received technical help, there is a way to remove the radio buttons in settings
11:39:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> In android settings?
11:41:22 <nioc> Yes, navigation bar
11:41:59 <nioc> Too bad stack keeps stopping responding when syncing wallet  lol
11:52:49 <nioc> syncs until 35k from the end and then stops
11:52:54 <nioc> Multiple times 
11:54:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> stops = crashes? gets stuck? Disconnects?
11:55:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Local or remote node? And this is the wallet that you just restored?
12:18:48 <nioc> Stops and asks if I want to wait or exit, waiting does nothing
12:18:54 <nioc> Remote
12:19:13 <nioc> Yes the restored wallet 
12:19:39 <nioc> Will try to choose a different node that someone suggested 
12:25:47 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nioc its a known issue
12:25:57 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and an unfortunate one
12:58:53 <nioc> Thx syntheticbird
13:56:52 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> Hi. Yeah will be fixed. Sorry for the trouble.
13:57:07 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> Best UX in the space my ass
14:14:38 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> wdym?
14:47:25 <YUiNA> thank you sech1
14:51:34 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> I'm just dogging on myself. Always say Stack Wallet has the best UX
14:51:55 <m-relay> <d​iego:cypherstack.com> but obviously not because some features literally can't be selected because the phone UI is in the way :D
15:36:20 <nioc> diego I had the same issue with monerujo
15:36:46 <nioc> DiegoSalazar 
16:43:04 <m-relay> <t​esttank:matrix.org> https://blog.nefture.com/monero-why-it-may-fall-short-as-a-money-laundering-tool-457e0fd79f94
16:48:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > Monero to the extent that it may potentially become the Darknet standard currency
16:48:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> _may potentially_? Excuuuuse me. More like "has"
17:09:42 <rbrunner> But all in all the article has a wealth of interesting info, no?
17:10:35 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Idk, got distracted
17:10:42 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Does it?
18:01:27 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> hey oomfies >^.^<
20:57:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xmr.mx/sgCxXFbnhXNDqnEbesPGmcvm
20:57:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 🤡
21:05:20 <m-relay> <b​inarybaron:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/ERLyWmjdWaKYtBfoarkNsovv
21:05:44 <m-relay> <b​inarybaron:matrix.org> If you want to start quoting stuff in here at least provide full context.
21:07:55 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I posted the whole context, pussy
21:08:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> screenshot -> capture more. The entire screenshot was posted as it was when taken, dumbass
21:09:19 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> YES
21:09:22 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> YES
21:09:23 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> YES
21:09:25 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> DRAMA
21:09:27 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 🍿
21:09:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> hilarious that you talk about network lvl privacy meanwhile you cant read a vuln report by the author of the vuln
21:09:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Missed me :D?
21:10:04 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> SyntheticBird from 2022: im not sure what to do first, report your thread for spam that tells people to stop reporting threads or tuck into this
21:10:16 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> cringe interaction with the critics -10 points.
21:10:17 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> tho yeah i missed you +10 points
21:10:41 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> im not sure what tuck means, but i guess you can do whatever feels right for you
21:10:56 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Sounds nsfw
21:11:10 <m-relay> <p​lowsof:matrix.org> Lol
21:11:30 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Nioc popcorn !
21:12:30 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> Won’t be suprised to see more of such articles, you tried to hit zano honeypot the bees are angry
21:13:33 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Zano is an honeypot?
21:13:50 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> Premined shitcoin
21:13:57 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Zano has been developed by former bytecoin developers
21:14:12 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> interpret this as you will
21:14:30 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> And promoted on monerotopia 😂 I hate Doug
21:14:36 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Makes sense
21:14:51 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "former" ahem, they are still bytecoin devs
21:15:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Zano codebase is very similar to xmr, idk why they dont use dandelion++ or anonymous-inbound etc
21:15:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Would be trivial to backport
21:15:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "trivial" 😂
21:15:53 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> Why would they ? It’s about money grab and not privacy
21:16:02 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> yep
21:16:14 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> it pumped to 15 or so
21:16:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Even bitcoin has network lvl privacy
21:16:22 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> I don't expect it to go back to ath
21:16:46 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 80% premine = "were rich, b***h!"
21:16:59 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> Low market cap coin easy to pump when you have btc whales who got it from Premined and they will pump it to dump on plebs at higher price
21:17:19 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> Low market cap coin easy to pump when you have btc whales who got it from Premine and they will pump it to dump on plebs at higher price
21:17:45 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> yep
21:17:47 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Fortunately I managed to get in at ~4 and get out at ~13.
21:17:49 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Dumped just about when Roger Ver mentionned it 😂
21:18:30 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> Ver was shilling it from beginning as he got paid from premine, he even went on Tari telegram group to shill it lol
21:18:59 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> I mean, with the interview with Tucker
21:19:04 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> That was the sell signal
21:21:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Easy to pump when 80% of the circulating supply is staked and removed from circulation*
21:21:43 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Monero Mateo also shilled it
21:22:08 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> I assume they went after the few good monero influencers
21:22:18 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> give them premined coins or something
21:22:44 <m-relay> <r​avfx:xmr.mx> Humans are humans, people don't often say no to money
21:27:53 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Capitalism is evil
21:28:23 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> Greed, whoever succumbs loses trust
21:30:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xmr.mx/gwXhQZkQrcTmnLnGehsCGjGe
21:32:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> also uses this node: http://node.xmr.to:18081/get_info
21:32:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Lmao, been dead for 86 years
21:32:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Talk about not giving a fuck about
21:33:28 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And xmr-tw, which is just yet-another proxy to plowsof's node
21:33:48 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> SyntheticBird from 2022  come back
21:36:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I find it hilarious that US larps about network privacy, but does things like point you to DEAD URLS and random nodes from monero.fail, uses centralized btc electrum node, and iirc, rendevous and makers arent awarded network privacy w/o special setup
21:37:13 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> The poor opsec from the us led to a large number of journalists and whistleblowers getting killed
21:37:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Honestly facepalming at the audacity to ignore reported, verified, and disclosed vulns, while larping about privacy
21:37:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> By US, i meant UnstoppableSwap :P, but yes_ USA too
21:40:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If using monero-wallet-cli with proxy, it requires you to supply ssl certs _or_ bypass. Also this-is-probably-a-spy-node. US? Yolo's monero.fail and _dead dns nodes!!_
21:42:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Why does it require you to supple ssl certs when using a proxy? Ssl stripping
21:44:32 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Lol I'm fried
21:45:17 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Nah, US is
21:45:46 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> What about basic swap
21:48:17 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> Exolix is integrated in monerujo
21:50:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Doesn't use remote nodes, uses whatever node you specify or runs a node
21:51:03 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And if you enable tor on basicswap, it uses for for everything. Makers, takers, wallets, nodes, everything
21:51:05 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Nice
21:51:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Doesn't supply supply or recommend any node aside from the one that it runs if you dont specify one*
21:51:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It can use a remote node if you enter one or a list of them
21:54:41 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> disclaimer: when using your own node, bsx does make use of bootstrap daemon mode while your node is syncing. Has been like this for a long time, maybe should remove it or set it to a fixed / trusted node
21:54:57 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Isn't that the case on any software
21:55:06 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> You can run anything through tor
21:55:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> no, not everything works over tor
21:56:05 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Unless they block it, it does
21:56:25 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> But it would just fail, not deanon you
21:56:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> its not one big proxy, each node uses its own tor functionality. 
21:56:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> so, as an example, bitcoin core creates its onion address and uses it
21:57:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Monero doesnt support onion for p2p blockchain sync, so it uses basic socks proxy
21:57:20 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> That's for the node running tor
21:57:46 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Can't you run tor as a socks proxy
21:57:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Basicswap's messaging protocol uses the tor functionality of the underlying node
21:58:10 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Any monero software works on tails which routes everything through tor
21:58:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You can just whonix everything, yes, but at a loss of some functionality
21:58:52 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Pretty sure you can pick individual apps too
21:58:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You can just yolo it onto tails, sure, but that doesnt uae tx-proxy or anonymous-inbound (onion services*
21:59:43 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> The provider looses anonimity but you dont
21:59:43 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> With bitcoin, if you yolo onto tails w/o properly configuring, you lose incoming connections since you wont have your onion addr
21:59:45 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Who cares
22:00:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> what is the question
22:00:47 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Wdym?
22:01:03 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Never had any problems with default electrum on tails
22:02:09 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm talking about bitcoind's p2p connections, not electrum
22:03:01 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (basicswap doesnt support electrum atm. Uses full nodes)