01:51:30 <m-relay> <e​longated:matrix.org> Proxy
04:43:49 <m-relay> <k​ufecure:xmr.se> Quick question, just curious if there’s any update on the FCMP++? What’s the latest on it? Thanks!
04:52:02 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> https://monero.town/post/6260944
05:23:01 <m-relay> <t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> Imagine what will happen if there is a futures trading dex on Tari. Just look at Hyperliquid.
05:28:20 <nioc> I only have eyes for Monroe
05:54:09 <m-relay> <t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> You can trade XMR futures without KYC, without going to centralized exchanges. Then governments cannot ruin us by crashing the price as we will be able to hedge.
10:49:38 <m-relay> <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> How?
11:05:47 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> fuck governments
11:06:03 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> btw hi yall
11:13:31 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> I am thinking to run monero node which hosting should I choose?
11:23:03 <m-relay> <x​3cc:nope.chat> Locally on SSD, you can get static IPv4 from some hosting, of course better choose from those who support monero payments, such as servers.guru 5€ per month or https://ihor.online/ 1-3€
11:26:56 <m-relay> <x​3cc:nope.chat> Actually some ISP can give static IP too afaik, but you can also host node in Tor, there will be no need for static IP or port forwarding, etc
11:28:13 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> wow makes sense
11:29:47 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> The one at home :D
11:30:37 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> I cant do that because I dont have good internet
11:30:39 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> that's why I ask
11:31:05 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> You can go to 1984.is
11:31:12 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> there you can pay for your VPS with monero
11:31:28 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> they are cheap?
11:31:39 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> no, they're a bit more expensive, but totally worth it imho
11:31:59 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> i see
11:32:05 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> they don't ask questions, you can sign up without providing personal details
11:33:35 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> If you don't mind about providing personal details you can find cheaper solutions, and mostly your storage will be costly depending on the performance
11:33:46 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> dude, the lowest end server on that service that can run a node is 249 a month! https://1984.hosting/product/pricelist/
11:34:07 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> that's not true
11:34:13 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> it's like 7 euro / month or something
11:34:37 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> what the fuck
11:34:39 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> yeah, as eddie said, if your threat model is lighter, you can find stuff on https://lowendbox.com/
11:34:49 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> oh wait, i see the other options. VPS3 is like 30 a month
11:35:16 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> I think you were looking at the annual price
11:35:17 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> i forget what the pruned node is at now, but 80gb of storage should cover it
11:35:28 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/oblak.be/XWXSsvCQtZEgVwPdMDMGsXtK
11:35:44 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> but yes that doesn't cover the storage for an XMR node, true
11:35:46 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> 25gb disk aint gonna cut it for a node
11:36:10 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> but other providers I have 1TB for 4 euro
11:36:18 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> you can connect them over wireguard
11:36:29 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> it all depends :-)
11:36:36 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> https://dedirock.com/
11:36:48 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> just be mindful that some VPS providers may not be a fan of all the bandwidth or the CPU and IO thats involved in the initial sync
11:36:54 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> so just be prepared to get fuct and move on
11:37:19 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> I don't like to rent servers in the USA :-)
11:37:30 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> but that's a personal preference
11:37:40 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> For some reason, my node (while syncing) got to more than 180GB of storage used (for a pruned node)
11:37:41 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> The 200 GB disk was almost full, so I asked btrfs to compress the disk even more (the instance is a 24GB ram 4-core Ampere instance, with 200GB of storage)
11:38:14 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> Now it is 88 GB
11:38:46 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> why?
11:39:06 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> Because I am not a US citizen
11:39:22 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> because of data safety?
11:40:15 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> Also yes.
11:40:37 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> where should I rent a server or at where you would rent?
11:40:56 <m-relay> <g​ingeropolous:monero.social> also you will probably run into less problems if you find some dedicated server options. some are out there for 25$ a month
11:41:23 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> For dedicated machines I haven't found anything cheaper than Hetzner so far.
11:41:40 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> what about ovhcloud?
11:41:46 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> Also a good option
11:41:52 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> A bit more expensive though
11:42:11 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> agree
11:43:58 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> we host our xmr stuff on royalehosting
11:44:04 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> allows hosting proxy n node
11:44:17 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> Oracle has a permanent free VPS (the one I mentioned above: 4cores of ARM Ampere, 14 GB of Ram, and 200 GB of storage). You can even make multiple VMs as long as you stay within the limits.
11:44:17 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> Also included are free public IPv4 and IPv6 (if you do it correctly, you can get 58 public IPv4 for free on a single account)
11:45:53 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> And up to 8 /56 IPv6 prefixes reserved for you IIUC
11:46:15 <plowsof> Free oracle vps? A moment of silence for busyboredoms node who survived only until its 2nd birthday iirc 
11:49:05 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> Batuhan: https://lowendtalk.com is a good forum to find out more about all sorts of hosting solution (shouldn't you have heard of it before)
11:49:39 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> I mostly use it to have a node to sync my node on my laptop, it is not accessible publicly.
11:51:22 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> I mostly use it to have a node to sync my laptop's node, it is not accessible publicly (only the p2p port is open)
11:53:08 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> Also, just found this in my logs:
11:53:09 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> ```text
11:53:11 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> 2025-06-24 09:55:13.994	I [167.235.231.155:18080 OUT] Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 3440899 -> 3442983 [Your node is 2084 blocks (2.9 days) behind]
11:53:13 <m-relay> <a​lbertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> ```
12:12:23 <m-relay> <0​xbatuhan:matrix.org> oh thanks