03:39:41 Have you guys read about Intelbroker ? Imagine being skilled enough to hack any corporation and goverment agency but stupid enough to accept kyc btc 03:40:52 I Hope he takes a kind of deal where he starts working for the “good guys” 03:42:08 Such talent would be watested otherwise 03:45:34 https://youtube.com/shorts/KkPFAeyqE6Y?si=xd0RT9HntYCa9n5K 03:48:54 They are starting to understand. 03:49:00 slowly, and then all of a sudden 03:52:13 good man use xmr,bad man use btc,haha. 03:56:12 All other crypto exist to serve monero 03:56:33 Bitcoin was a proof of concept 04:02:24 BTC has another name:ltc 04:02:48 they have almost the same code 04:03:40 Aye, not really anymore 04:03:46 I would say Bitcoin Cash is more similar 04:04:33 Litecoin is nice because it’s block time is 2.5 minutes almost like monero and mweb privacy feature 04:04:33 i'd also disagree there. Bch has deviated significantly since block wars 04:05:09 To give bitcoin core credit, the node actually works properly 04:05:22 I don’t know all the details actually, maybe you are right 04:05:27 Litecoin and bch node's are buggy / poorly backported 04:05:50 Working with basicswap ive had to deal with all sorts of issues from btc forks. 04:05:58 But it has controllers, as anyone who has read Chinese news knows, the government wants to control LTC 04:06:08 An example is, litecoin leaks your ip when using onion 04:06:31 Bch wont allow you to generate a wallet until the node finished syncing 04:07:44 The creator of Ltc is the owner of a company that works for the Chinese government, but many of its contributors and maintainers come from there 04:08:40 What I know is that part of the code for the digital RMB comes from LTC 04:08:43 It’s made to compromise privacy or why? 04:08:59 Just brokem 04:09:10 Bitcoin fixed the issue years ago 04:09:45 Bch never backported the fix 04:10:30 btc is the most "well oiled" blockchain out of all of the forks 04:10:35 You mean RNG maybe? Random number generator, or what is RMB 04:10:43 Litecoin is honestly a PITA 04:11:31 Yeah it almost like bcash developers don’t pay much attention to some things 04:11:41 only blockchain that i dont seem to be able to copy/paste the blocks & chainstate folder successfully 04:12:01 ecny 04:12:13 Theyre all about flashy stuff, VMs, contracts, space ships 04:12:46 bch doesnt have segwit, but supports atomic swaps using a different method 04:12:48 CNY 04:13:53 The closest to bitcoin is probably namecoin 04:14:09 The rest are like 6+ versions behind 04:14:17 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/mozilla.org/ba01b07cd36f7a67b2a281f3d410f56d1caecd841938813161293479936 04:15:41 WOW,monero is 3st in china 04:15:55 DCEP is ecny 04:18:42 DCEP is a controllable anonymous payment tool with value characteristics and legal compensation. 04:19:24 A cryptocurrency or tool issued by the government 04:34:45 The only real use case crypto has it’s private and uncensorable transfer of value everything else it’s bullishit wrapped in buy it and hopefully it will go up. 08:23:47 there are a few 'full nodes' for BCH/BTC, Rucknium has tested some/all during his research. which one was borked ofrnxmr? 08:25:28 the thing i like about monero-wallet-rpc for beginners is, it will run a shell script for you and pass the txid of incoming transactions (--tx-notify). the above blockchains assume you have your own http server running and know wtf you're doing 11:30:38 https://github.com/bitcoin-cash-node/bitcoin-cash-node 11:44:26 https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17681 fixed here for btc 17:31:25 Why does the monero daemon want to create a directory in /sys? 17:31:25 ERROR daemon src/daemon/main.cpp:377 Exception in main! boost::filesystem::create_directory: Permission denied: "/sys/bc" 17:32:02 (Debian 12.11) 18:34:20 is that a release binary or from a package manager? 18:36:41 did you provide a --data-dir /sys/bc as a runtime flag? 19:13:16 Lol 19:13:54 `bc` definitely sounds like a custom dir 19:33:08 We need the help of Monero community to sign this. Please your help is appreciated 19:33:09 https://www.change.org/p/proton-to-add-monero-payment-support 19:33:19 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/wbrQDdvBRutdNynYwPNtJVdc 19:34:18 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/zNKaXNSxsZRjylWuwPdKuJTY 19:43:27 What is the problem for bch node? 19:44:01 What is the problem for bchn node? 19:44:44 Cant generate wallet from hd seed until blockchain fully synced 19:45:10 Currently there is a chip in bch to reduce block time to 1 min 19:46:13 I will forward this for the BCHN team 19:46:44 I will forward this for the BCHN maintainers 19:47:09 https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17681 19:47:11 send them this too 19:56:58 This needs to go over r/monero 20:02:19 Isnt it already 20:45:45 this have been for almost a decade 20:46:10 Proton will never support Monero 20:47:07 would be cool if they did 20:47:17 https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/960668-proton-wallet/suggestions/48672359-support-monero 20:47:31 but Monero is filled with legit people that want to keep their transactions private 20:47:34 and criminals 20:47:46 <321bob321:monero.social> Simplelogin does in a roundabout way 20:47:53 https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/935538-accounts-payments/suggestions/33188971-monero-payment-option 20:48:14 proton doesn't want to listen, basically but muh criminals! 20:48:22 proxy store? 20:48:34 <321bob321:monero.social> If there wallet wont support it, they wont accept payment 20:48:35 <321bob321:monero.social> Yeah 20:48:43 <321bob321:monero.social> The offical way 20:48:46 <321bob321:monero.social> Lol 20:48:56 <321bob321:monero.social> According to their support 20:50:24 that's a shame. i already pay proton's preminum plan for the VPN & email service, i would've loved to be able to use monero 20:54:48 There's always cock.li and mullvad 20:55:13 cock.li is free whilst mullvad accepts just monero 20:55:15 first one is a honeypot 20:56:21 I'm not entirely too sure about that 20:56:30 search 20:56:40 They've been completely honest in terms of their policies 20:56:44 atleast imo 20:56:55 not a couple of years ago 20:57:19 how so? 20:57:55 and they recently got breached https://cyberinsider.com/data-breach-at-cock-li-email-service-exposed-over-1-million-user-records/ 20:58:34 Ik it's right on their site actually 20:58:36 https://mail.cock.li/ 20:58:59 And btw 20:59:15 when you host a public service, specially privacy focused ones, people abuse them 20:59:30 only the names, emails, vcards and comments have been leaked 20:59:39 proton would be instantly blocked from probably every big email provider if they accepted Monero 20:59:39 passwords have not been leaked 20:59:42 only lol 20:59:43 sadly 21:00:08 Well yeah it's not as if proton or tutanota is really any better 21:00:28 at least didn't have a breach yet 21:00:36 Tuta is worse than Proton 21:00:51 I'm sure you remember the article on the French journalist? 21:01:04 not a data breach 21:01:23 <321bob321:monero.social> Umm ip address are in email headers too 21:01:46 But if it's only the emails and they still deliberately don't hide it, 21:01:55 does it really matter? 21:01:55 it is an email service, all have to comply even cock https://cock.li/transparency/ 21:02:05 suspiciously last record was from 2022 21:02:20 True 21:02:34 <321bob321:monero.social> Most log login ip address 21:02:35 Oh well 21:02:37 self-hosting seems like the only option now ig 21:02:48 yes, for abuse 21:03:12 yes 21:03:13 it is 21:03:17 that is why I run my own email server 21:03:30 I have no problems with it and I'm not in any blacklist AFAIK 21:04:37 I might give it a go, I've thought of having my webmail service be proxied over to wireguard on a VPS so I can still have all my emails stored locally on my server at home 21:05:49 yeah that may work 21:06:03 or you can use POP3 21:06:34 the problem with POP3 is that you can't see your email on more than one device since it's downloaded from the server to your client 21:06:46 https://www.privacyguides.org/en/self-hosting/email-servers/ 21:06:50 the problem with POP3 is that you can't see your email on more than one device since it's downloaded from the server to your email client (device) 21:06:52 I'm not sure if I'd have the bandwidth to tho 21:06:59 thanks 21:07:07 That's where the VPS comes in 21:07:09 why? 21:07:16 email takes like no bandwidth 21:07:20 I'm on a shared network 21:07:31 I tried serving a simple nginx webpage 21:07:33 But that was still a lot 21:07:42 So just letting a VPs handle it is probably the best bet 21:07:47 So just letting a VPS handle it is probably the best bet 21:08:26 Stalwart seems to be good 21:08:33 I use mailu.io personally 21:09:26 I'll have to look over the docs first tbh 21:09:45 I have been wondering if there is a way to encrypt the emails on the server when they arrive and decrypt them locally with your device using a pair of keys 21:09:57 something like how Matrix does it for encrypted messages 21:10:05 use FDE? 21:10:09 I think just using cleopatra might be the best way? 21:10:11 I'm sure it's possible but I wonder why no one has done it yet 21:10:13 and PGP 21:10:41 That is not a solution on servers 21:10:46 of course 21:10:58 and is also not a solution if you get hacked lol 21:11:17 PGP works, but that requieres both ends to share their keys and lets be real, most people don't use PGP 21:11:19 You could have your emails encrypted using PGP keys, of course the receipient would also have to already know to use your public key tho 21:11:34 Mhm true true 21:11:37 your bank is not going to use PGP to send you the status of your bank account lol 21:11:43 would be cool tho 21:12:23 I think a better approach would be to just isolate it completely and dump essential stuff onto gmail and leave it to rot there 21:14:57 dont use email lmao 21:15:22 would be the best 21:15:27 but everyone uses email for basic communicatins 21:15:29 but everyone uses email for basic communications 21:16:49 lol no 21:16:56 instant messaging exists 21:17:06 I'm not sure if it's for everyone 21:17:16 But matrix is pretty common for devs now 21:17:44 And you could try to get your irl normal people on signal or matrix too 21:17:51 It isn't that hard to set up, like, at all 21:18:01 I would prefer signal 21:18:08 mhm that works too 21:18:20 my parents used signal so I just hopped on there 21:18:22 Matrix is a mess IMO 21:18:39 yeah it's quite bloated atleast compared to IRC or XMPP 21:22:29 ig the fundamental way it works is king of suspicious too since matrix used to be backed by a terrorist organization 21:22:53 lol 21:23:23 what do you mean backed by a terrorist org 😅 21:24:20 Sorry about randomly dropping that XD 21:24:30 The spec is open source, it's pretty transparent how it works 21:24:34 I think it was suppose to be the mosside? 21:24:50 And the way it essentially works is by syncing chat logs 21:25:09 So it means metadata spreads from server to server 21:25:21 And because matrix.org is the biggest server it ends up being a sort of "hub" 21:25:30 Filled with metadata that's constantly being synced to it 21:25:45 So yeah there's that concern 21:25:52 So yeah there's that concern too 21:25:58 I agree there are drawbacks to matrix 21:26:22 Plus it's written in python 21:26:32 and federation just makes it worse in my opinion, I'm not against federation, but on matrix, is extremely easy to create a homeserver and start spamming things on the whole matrix space 21:27:12 and bored people do that 21:27:14 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/JNsCCosMuEpitojVmQtHOofX 21:27:15 Official statement from their vp or manger 21:27:30 and you also depend of the moderation team of one homeserver 21:27:55 At this time i think the are mocking and hate monero like fuck that but i am still assuming good faith 21:28:08 It's the same for everything really 21:28:14 IRC, Discord, email etc/ 21:28:18 It's just how things are 21:28:20 well yeah 21:28:22 true 21:28:25 IRC, Discord, email etc 21:28:31 I also say the same thing, is the same on whatsapp 21:28:41 I'd prefer decentralised spam rather than centralized spam though 21:28:53 the thing is that matrix is mostly used for rooms where there is a lot of people so it's just WAY more annoying 21:28:55 Since you atleast have the option to blacklist servers 21:28:57 I think 21:28:59 Dude hosting mail sucks and mail is mot the best way of communicating nor its private edward snowden even said that. But this is the modern world its essential what we gona do about it? 21:29:16 fix it 21:29:17