10:20:01 <rsch> hi
10:21:15 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> heyy UwU
10:22:02 <rsch> i need some help. I want to test the proof of payment and if I go under advenced -> prove check there is a section for check transaction / reserve. I enter the transaction id, receiver address, message (I set with set_tx_note) and the signature I got as a proof starting with OutProofV2. I get a bad signature. any idea or is it a bug?
10:25:27 <rsch> ok weird if I skip the message it works. anyone know why?
10:30:40 <rsch> ok I got it. monero gui generates a signature without a message thats why. I have to use a manual way to generate a signature with a message. thought that a transaction note is always part of a signature.
14:47:29 <quantum`> I'd like to join P2Pool, but am seeing diff info on which miner to use..
14:48:04 <quantum`> MineXMR, XMRig, etc
14:48:18 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> xmrig
14:48:36 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Or just use the built-in miner for p2pool
14:48:50 <quantum`> Built-in?
14:49:03 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> p2pool is a miner as well as a pool
14:49:23 <quantum`> O
14:53:57 <quantum`> I have monerod running on a headless VM.  I've set up a reverse SSH tunnel to bring port 18081 to my workstation.  I've pointed my Cake wallet at it, but it only says, "Attempting Sync".
14:54:31 <quantum`> Is there any way to know whether something's wrong?
15:01:09 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> `curl localhost:18081` should say "empty reply from server"
15:01:22 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> at least then you know the tunnel is working
15:02:09 <quantum`> Egh:  curl: (56) Recv failure: Connection reset by peer
15:02:49 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> `netstat -tuplan | grep 18081` -> can you see the port listening on your localhost?
15:03:20 <quantum`> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:18081         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      5283/ssh            
15:03:47 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> To me it seems like the problem sits within your vm
15:04:22 <quantum`> Thx, I'll investigate.
15:05:28 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> How did you do the port forwarding. Is the daemon on your vm really listening on localhost:18081 and not some other interface?
15:06:36 <quantum`> Ok now it's working.  I had to restart my tunnel service.
15:07:31 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Is monerod fully synced?
15:07:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cake wallet is on desktop, correct?
15:08:04 <quantum`> Yes finally fully synced.  Cake is on desktop.
15:11:04 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Open your browser
15:11:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> or terminal
15:11:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And go to
15:11:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://localhost:18081/get_info
15:11:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (or curl it). Does it load?
15:12:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Nvm, i see that its working now
15:12:39 <quantum`> Actually, apparently not.  Neither works.
15:12:57 <quantum`> My gosh.
15:13:03 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> does it work on the server that monerod is running?
15:13:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> curl localhost:18081/get_info
15:14:04 <quantum`> Good test. On the headless:   "curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: self-signed certificate"
15:14:33 <quantum`> "curl failed to verify the legitimacy of the server and therefore could not establish a secure connection to it."
15:14:39 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> and what about `curl -k localhost:18081/get_info`
15:14:45 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> this skips the verification
15:15:22 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> but your wallet will probably still be annoyed by this
15:16:09 <quantum`> With -k it hangs.  I can see it listening on 18081 using # lsof -i -n-P
15:16:16 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ssl, by default, is in auto-detect mode for monerod. Cake will accept self-signed certs
15:16:39 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It if is hanging, the node is probably not running
15:16:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Run `monerod status` or `.monerod status`
15:17:29 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> the second one should be `./monerod status`
15:18:05 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> I wonder, what's the logging config of your node?
15:18:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Also check top/htop, syatemd, or ps for monerod
15:18:13 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> can you tail the logs somewhere?
15:19:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> first question: how are you running monerod? (systemd, dockern, cli)
15:19:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Second: are you using a custom monerod config?
15:19:26 <quantum`> My systemd service has:  ExecStart=/usr/bin/monerod --config-file /etc/monerod.conf --non-interactive --zmq-pub tcp://127.0.0.1:18083 --disable-dns-checkpoints --enable-dns-blocklist
15:19:46 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ok so check systemd status
15:20:10 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And the config file, oh gawd lol
15:20:19 <quantum`> active (running)
15:20:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Why are you using a config file _and_ flags?
15:20:37 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> what is in the config file
15:20:39 <quantum`> Hmm, good question.
15:20:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> paste.debian.net or www.zerobin.net
15:21:50 <quantum`> http://paste.debian.net/1385220/
15:22:20 <quantum`> It's not too bad, but I didn't realize I can use that instead of command-line switches.
15:22:29 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> not entirely sure, but I'd increase your log-level
15:22:52 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> unless ofrnAI disputes this 😄
15:23:42 <quantum`> https://privatebin.io/?e4482b4922c3c18e#7aG56c99WTwWNaKStdnagkAhQp47TVViYULBQ9RRCizF
15:23:52 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> Are there logs in your log file?
15:24:13 <quantum`> (privatebin)
15:24:19 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Can you use a different paste website
15:24:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Like one of the ones i shared. Privatebin requires webassembly
15:24:35 <quantum`> It thinks it's 15:23, when it's 08:23.
15:24:40 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> The debian paste worked better for me too
15:24:52 <quantum`> O
15:25:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I just say you posted on debian, thz
15:26:18 <quantum`> https://www.zerobin.net/?eb528e1839af0393#cYvqSFOt57E5hL5rHkYR6Zsdtg4Ua9tDOXf3DEKCReQ=
15:26:31 <quantum`> The Debian one blinds me.
15:27:06 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Try switching removing --non-interactive and adding --detach
15:27:25 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Oh lol nvm
15:27:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Your node isnt synced
15:27:30 <quantum`> Oh, the log thinks it's 15:23, but the headless knows it's 08:23.
15:27:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Synced 3108437/3452573 (90%, 344136 left, 0% of total synced, estimated 1.9 months left)
15:28:14 <quantum`> Oh shit...
15:28:36 <quantum`> I thought it is finally caught up.
15:29:00 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 1.9 months left is crazy. Are tou syncing on an HDD?
15:29:02 <quantum`> It's been syncing for weeks.
15:29:08 <quantum`> Yes HDD.
15:29:11 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Or an sd card 😂
15:29:22 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yeah. Use an ssd.
15:29:33 <quantum`> Too poor.
15:29:47 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> you have an android phone with 256gb?
15:29:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Sync it there then copy it over 😅
15:31:06 <quantum`> Good idea.  But does it make that much difference?
15:31:19 <quantum`> I mean, 1.9 months?!
15:32:03 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> can you do `du -sh /srv/bc` .
15:32:05 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> can you do `du -sh /srv/bc` ?
15:32:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "<q​uantum`> Good idea.  But does it make that much difference?" Yes
15:32:32 <quantum`> 184G    /srv/bc
15:32:49 <quantum`> It's a 5T drive.
15:34:15 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> Yeah it seems you're missing about 60GB in chain
15:34:20 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> rough estimate
15:35:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I think that G is GiB? If so, 40gib, if not, yea 60
15:35:10 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> you could to `iotop` to see how fast / slow the sync is writing to disk
15:35:26 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> you could do `iotop` to see how fast / slow the process is writing to disk
15:36:07 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> BTC, you have a 5TB HDD attached to a VM?
15:36:11 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> btw, you have a 5TB HDD attached to a VM?
15:37:00 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> I don't know what you pay for that but it sounds like you could have a 500GB ssd for +/- same price ?
15:38:01 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> afaik the G is for  gigabytes
15:38:14 <quantum`> I've had the drive for a while doing nothing.  I can't even afford my utilities.
15:38:47 <quantum`> GB is bytes. Gb is bits.  Typically for storage it's bytes, and for networking it's bits.
15:39:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Im refering to giga vs gibi bytes
15:39:25 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> But you are renting the drive?
15:40:49 <quantum`> Nah, I own the HDD.
15:41:09 <quantum`> In Debian no iotop, and biotop malfunctions.
15:42:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> eddie  its gibi (GiB)
15:42:40 <quantum`> I can't find monerod in Android.
15:43:54 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> `apt install iotop`
15:44:39 <quantum`> Sure enough...
15:45:01 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> Did you look that up?
15:45:29 <quantum`> Yes but messed it up somehous.
15:45:46 <quantum`> Practically nothing going on in iotop.
15:46:28 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> Ha, it seems I've interpreted this wrong since always 😂
15:46:52 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I just checked the size of mt blockchain
15:47:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 232G but thats 248... bytes
15:47:43 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> I'm looking at `du` manpage .. *The  SIZE  argument  is  an  integer  and optional unit (example: 10K is 10*1024).  Units are K,M,G,T,P,E,Z,Y,R,Q (powers of 1024) or KB,MB,... (powers of 1000).  Binary prefixes can be used, too: KiB=K, MiB=M, and so on.*
15:47:45 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> I'm looking at `du` manpage .. _The  SIZE  argument  is  an  integer  and optional unit (example: 10K is 10_1024).  Units are K,M,G,T,P,E,Z,Y,R,Q (powers of 1024) or KB,MB,... (powers of 1000).  Binary prefixes can be used, too: KiB=K, MiB=M, and so on.*
15:47:56 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> I'm looking at `du` manpage ..
15:48:00 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> Seems you are right
15:48:08 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> *Units are K,M,G,T,P,E,Z,Y,R,Q (powers of 1024)*
16:06:48 <quantum`> On Android, CakeWallet has zero network traffic.
16:07:37 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> hold that thought
16:14:07 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> data saver enabled? battery optimizations enabled? if using a privacy rom forgot to grant network permission?
16:17:29 <quantum`> data saver  battery optimizations disabled.  Running Lineage.  Checked permissions for monero.com and there is nothing for networking.
16:18:52 <m-relay> <b​asses:matrix.org> weird
16:19:53 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> so you got it like this?
16:19:55 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/qMQXhXwgBPTDjSFPvRSMLips
16:20:30 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> His node isnt synced
16:20:35 <quantum`> Nah, I just installed the Monero.com app from the Aurora Store.
16:20:53 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You dont have fdroid?
16:20:57 <quantum`> I can't ind monerod for Android
16:21:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You need to use termux (from fdroid)
16:21:37 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> can't be true. aurorastore is downloaded from fdroid
16:21:42 <quantum`> I do have fdroid and try to always use that first.
16:22:10 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> based <3
16:22:26 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> you can just fetch the APK too afaik
16:22:33 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> you can download it from auroraoss.com
16:23:00 <quantum`> monerod?
16:23:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://fdroid.cakewallet.com/fdroid/repo
16:23:20 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> monerod is not an app its a cli util lol
16:23:49 <quantum`> I have Monero.com Cake app.  And Aurora Store.
16:24:09 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> monero.com and cakewallet are different.
16:24:26 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> https://github.com/nahuhh/android-termux-monero-node
16:24:27 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> for monero in termux
16:24:52 <quantum`> git clone in Android?
16:25:27 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> lmao
16:26:05 <quantum`> Yeah, I'm a loser.
16:26:23 <quantum`> Not telling me something I don't already know.
16:26:39 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> n-nooo :(
16:26:47 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> termux is an linux environment you can install on your android device
16:27:04 <quantum`> Using termux I can't get onto /sdcard.  Permission denied.
16:27:07 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> inside there you have the full debian apt repository, you can apt install git cmake etc like usual
16:27:22 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> termux only lives in its own dir
16:27:30 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> type "cd", then "pwd"
16:28:31 <quantum`> /data/data/com.termux/files/home.  But that's not /sdcard where all the space it.
16:29:14 <quantum`> is
16:29:45 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> termux can't directly access the sd card
16:29:59 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> can't you install it on the sd card? iirc android let you install apps on your sd card
16:30:50 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> am i old or something? they nuked that feature 😭
16:31:13 <quantum`> I believe so.  Used to be we had to set a special setting, but Idk now.
16:32:06 <quantum`> Thing is, on my headless disk writes by monerod are only about every 2 minutes.
16:32:21 <quantum`> It's def not disk-bound.
16:32:57 <quantum`> Must be getting throttled by my ISP.
16:43:01 <m-relay> <c​:frei.chat> How credible is https://moneroleaks.xyz/
16:43:06 <m-relay> <c​:frei.chat> How credible is https://moneroleaks.xyz/ ?
16:47:45 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> holy-
16:47:49 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> that website is crazy
16:49:37 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> something for antimoonboy to talk about :)
16:50:22 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> *dies*
16:51:26 <m-relay> <c​:frei.chat> Does anyone know who is behind this?
16:56:41 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/UVOwxFWBFiCuJxseGuOhPtam
16:56:48 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> always fear the chainalysis
16:56:49 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> Abdullahi Muhammad jauro helo!!
16:56:51 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> Abdullahi Muhammad jauro hello!!
17:05:24 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> And warrants for searching your house. If they hadn't seized private keys it would've been much harder.
17:06:04 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> The hacker was already arrested before the started tracing his monero, so it's not monero that lead to his arrest.
17:07:21 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> It's good to be very aware about the limitations of monero though
17:07:37 <m-relay> <r​afael_xmr:monero.social> it's made by a guy called "supertestnet"
17:07:39 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> -20% fear \^\_\^
17:16:14 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> Well, in almost all of these cases the target leaked an IP address tied to his identity, used a KYC exchange tied to his identity or leaked his private keys.
17:16:39 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> If you are doing criminal things, be smarter 😅
17:19:29 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> enable mullvad b4 h4x0r1ng :3
18:29:35 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> Lol I've talked enough to super testnet on twitter. His latest gimmick is sending someone monero and saying that he traced it because he knows what output the other person is receiving. He argues in bad faith because he is scared of Monero adoption.
18:30:30 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> phew, that guy is bullshitting, we're safe gang
18:31:09 <m-relay> <l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> He actually argues that robosats is a darknet market
18:35:16 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> Well for he is filling white space just for the sake of it, here and there
18:35:21 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> Like: *every monero transaction leaks the amount received by the recipient to the sender*
18:35:25 <m-relay> <e​ddie:oblak.be> no shit sherlock
18:36:37 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> i'm going to get shot if i send any kind of monero transaction because the amount will be seemingly "leaked"
18:38:02 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> cakewallet is government declared illegal munition if you open it you get death penalty!!!
18:38:04 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> xd
22:40:05 <m-relay> <d​ormouse:matrix.org> According to old laws, it actually is.
22:40:07 <m-relay> <d​ormouse:matrix.org> Cryptographic algorithms used to be weapons.
22:40:09 <m-relay> <d​ormouse:matrix.org> I'm not sure on this, but I believe that even Americans are civilised enough to not have a death penal... Oh no.
22:44:50 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> lmao
22:58:24 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'm glad to live in Europe
22:58:44 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> COME ON ofrnAI IM WAITING FOR YOU
22:58:55 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> EUROPE > USA
23:00:25 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> netherlands even
23:00:28 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> good european country
23:00:33 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> all the bulletproof hostings are located here
23:00:35 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> :3
23:00:59 <as2333> haha
23:01:00 <otirc99> I'm not sure about that @m-relay, the pay in tech roles seem to be better paid in the US
23:01:14 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> As an LLM, I do not have a physical location
23:01:22 <as2333> 17Lifers, so the netherlands is where the biggest NSA hub is
23:01:34 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> .
23:01:40 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> python was developed by a dutch programmer
23:01:41 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> :3
23:01:58 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> cd/dvd and bluetooth too
23:02:04 <as2333> python is decent - but not related to the NSA operations in europe
23:02:13 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> cd/dvd and bluetooth standards too
23:02:13 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Most of societal issues in Europe originate from USA
23:02:20 <as2333> piece of shit ASML is dutch too - sort of
23:02:55 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> meh, no point in baiting as2333
23:02:57 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> ..
23:03:03 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> the asn doesnt even exist
23:03:05 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> lol
23:03:25 <as2333> you mean, no point in telling the truth psychotic bird?
23:03:47 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I wouldn't have imagined you to have an anti-usa stance
23:03:49 <as2333> I obv disagree, especially in channels full of cops.
23:03:59 <as2333> what
23:04:01 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes
23:04:16 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> all my opinions are mine and mine only
23:04:19 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> (in minecraft)
23:04:28 <otirc99> Holland definitely punches above it's weight 
23:04:44 <as2333> you never noticed I have an 'anti USA' stance? Are you pretending to be this stupid or what
23:07:10 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> if y'all hate the netherlands i should sudo apt remove myself
23:07:11 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> lol
23:07:55 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i like netherland
23:08:05 <otirc99> Holland is one of the better Euro nations
23:08:46 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i like north korea
23:09:24 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> bro
23:09:37 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> north korea is good
23:09:39 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> hackers and botnets are good
23:09:41 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> they make up monero hashrate
23:09:43 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> :3
23:09:50 <m-relay> <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i like the in minecraft part
23:20:22 <great_taste> @btc ath
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23:20:37 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> oh that bot works
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