00:42:04 <m-relay> <m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> qubic mining is very permissioned
01:01:29 <tbot> wdym arbo 
06:19:13 <m-relay> <g​ogo2464:matrix.org> Can i buy moneros from my online bank or should I convert it to solana first with uniswap?
06:33:48 <m-relay> <s​bt:nope.chat> Better use retroswap.
06:34:08 <m-relay> <s​bt:nope.chat> Your bank would probably flag you for buying XMR.
13:20:40 <m-relay> <a​lexandre:uii.pt> having a local p2pool node and using a remote one have the same likelyhood of getting shares?
13:20:41 <m-relay> <a​lexandre:uii.pt> Got mine running but for almost a day didn't get any share on the mini chain with ~5KH/s
13:32:13 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes
13:37:04 <m-relay> <a​lexandre:uii.pt> I see, then i guess i was just unlucky, should get less shares than on a "normal" pool? or it would depend on the pool?
13:37:58 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes, less than a normal pool
13:38:31 <m-relay> <a​lexandre:uii.pt> gotcha, thanks
13:40:20 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Normal pools send low difficulty shares to help track your hashrate, and pay you for the hashes youve submitted
13:42:02 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> P2pool has higher difficulty shares because there are max 2160 payouts per block
13:51:20 <m-relay> <a​lexandre:uii.pt> overall payout should be similar, even with higher difficulty?
14:21:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes
14:27:32 <quantum`> Does this noise look familiar to anyone?  https://www.zerobin.net/?2d04d89b5b06383d#gfIuJyBUIyVejZ0/YbgltILaCooZI3kDMi17Iqzpyb0=
14:47:53 <quantum`> I am running my own monerod node with a systemd service and my own config file.  Gupaxx does not seem happy about that.  IIRC there is a setting in Gupaxx to allow for this?
14:49:15 <m-relay> <a​lexandre:uii.pt> did you enable rpc and zmq?
14:57:41 <quantum`> zmq-pub=tcp://127.0.0.1:18083 -- but not rpc.
14:58:44 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Rpc is enabled by default, assuming its running on the same host
14:59:01 <quantum`> I've disabled the systemd service and tried to use the Gupaxx node, but the > is grayed out in Node, and starting P2Pool crashes.
17:22:37 <quantum`_> Anyone know what Gupaxx runs in the xmrig tab?  Personally I thought it is xmrig, but setting sudoers does not work.
17:23:56 <quantum`_> pete localhost = NOPASSWORD: /usr/bin/xmrig
17:24:47 <quantum`_> Still asks for password.
17:59:57 <quantum`_> miner    speed 10s/60s/15m n/a n/a n/a H/s max n/a H/s
18:00:23 <quantum`_> It's using 6% of one thread...  and I have 64 threads.
18:01:13 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> try disabling numa
18:09:48 <m-relay> <g​ogo2464:matrix.org> thank I will use it?
18:10:07 <m-relay> <g​ogo2464:matrix.org> how that?
18:12:03 <m-relay> <s​bt:nope.chat> If you use any popular exchange. With retroswap, you will exchange directly so your bank wouldn't know.
18:14:01 <m-relay> <g​ogo2464:matrix.org> sure. Indeed is it really worst than bying bitcoin and ethereum indeed? I could still say I was going to speculate.
18:14:11 <m-relay> <g​ogo2464:matrix.org> lol
18:14:11 <m-relay> <g​ogo2464:matrix.org> #maximalist
18:15:07 <quantum`_> 17lifers:matrix.org: --randomx-no-numa, no change.  That must not be it.
18:20:11 <quantum`_> huh, running xmrig manually and all CPUs are slammed.  Something about Gupaxx.
18:21:24 <quantum`_> Also Gupaxx ignores my sudoers setting for no password, but CLI does not.
20:02:35 <Guess65> in theory when wallet a sends an amount smaller than an amount received to wallet b after a random time and then to wallet c yet another random amount after a random time - wallers b and c are unlinkable to wallet a?
20:06:34 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> not entirely. There is a path from c to the change output from b, and from b to the change output from a
20:07:41 <moneromooo> Ah, the joya of ambiguous languages.
20:11:15 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> example. If i have 1 output in wallet a, and use it to make weekly purchases from a service b (while using a new ip addr etc), service b can deduce that the same wallet is making those purchases and is spending their change outputs repeatedly.
20:26:32 <Guess65> ok then use sweep all?
20:27:07 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Depends on your threat model
20:27:29 <Guess65> from a to c then to b c will wait  b will wait before spending
20:27:39 <Guess65> we are talking about monero anonimity
20:28:01 <Guess65> max anonimity monero can provide as a protocol
20:28:23 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Well the only way to get rid of the graph is to use different monero
20:29:24 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You can churn (send-to-self) the change to lower the likelyhood
20:42:04 <Guess65> then. wallet a splits its total into smaller totals. random numbers 1.33445 etc that all add up to total. wait. step 2 new tor identity. send outputs to wallet b sweep all. wait. new tor identity outputs to wallet c.
20:44:49 <Guess65> i have made one mistake
20:45:02 <Guess65> each wallet ought to re randomise before re sending
20:57:21 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> That is easy to see on chain
20:57:57 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> randomizing amounts doesnt make an difference in regarda to on-chain tracing
20:59:49 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Are yoy the owner of wallet a b and c?
21:02:05 <m-relay> <h​bs:matrix.org> buy hashrate with XMR to mine on p2pool, get fresh XMR
21:02:38 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> P2pool outputs are public 🫡
21:03:33 <m-relay> <1​7lifers:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/EOKjdiGBsfNOYtkmJTXGTJWt
21:03:59 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> This is an xy problem. W/o knowing what the point of this exercize is, cant advise on "best practices"
22:16:15 <Guess65> its untraceable
22:16:33 <Guess65> 100% anon
22:17:07 <Guess65> are there even public tracing challenges? with some prizes :) then it is easy to see
22:30:43 <Guess65>  split amount to random sub totals same wallet. send outputs to b c etc. re split total after each step randomly. random delays. new tor identity for each step.
22:38:32 <m-relay> <o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yeah, useless
23:44:18 <Guess65> https://decrypt.co/248728/monero-expert-fact-checks-chainalysis-video-claiming-xmr-transactions-can-be-traced
23:44:56 <Guess65> monero is untraceable and unlinkable
23:48:10 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> Yeah our monero board of director
23:48:57 <m-relay> <3​21bob321:monero.social> We have 16 of them currently