00:53:34 🙄 01:30:46 what is the current hash rate of QUBIC 01:39:52 0 H/s 02:35:57 Correct im wrong but i think that after the underling tech the most important thing about Monero it’s the price, we as a community should stop saying we dont care about price. 02:36:17 THE HIGHER THE PRICE THE BIGGER THE HASRATE 02:36:59 I normally don't care much about the price but it's true 02:37:01 > price, > hr 02:37:13 !!!!! 02:37:20 I normally don't care much about the price but it's true 02:37:21 higher price, higher hr 02:37:23 fking mutrix markup 02:41:57 We shouldn’t have to worry about a fucking shitcoin wanting to take over Xmr, i truely believe Monero has the potential to be the most important asset of our age, but that can’t be true unless we are safe from 51% attacks. (Not quibic but state level attacks) 02:49:12 I wish Dr Daniel Kim could be our Saylor 03:59:07 anyone use monero-gui on arch linux? 04:03:05 why? 04:03:24 i'm just wondering if anyone is having any issues with it 04:03:43 I'm using a hardened kernel but it runs fine but visually isn't responding well. 04:04:02 i'm switching to feather wallet now 04:47:43 Higher price higher hash rate 04:55:51 where can someone pay to have a protonmail account registered it wont let me and its pissing me off lol 05:06:56 <321bob321:monero.social> wdym 05:06:58 <321bob321:monero.social> with monero? 05:07:28 preferably yeah 05:08:12 i cant register an account without having to use another email address and that seems really stupid when its supposed to be a privacy based email account 05:08:34 might be my connection or browser but dont care just wannt pay someone $5 or something to do it lol 06:45:28 That's weird. I registered an account over Tor without any email or phone verification. 06:48:42 You can buy a temp number from kycnot.me, that will definitely work. 07:31:54 Me too. 07:31:55 If I remember it have like a few day timer on where you have to wait to use the service, except if you pay. Maybe that have changed. 07:32:17 Also registred from tor 07:33:24 Last time I tried a month or two ago, I couldn't register on Tor either. Maybe it's luck? 07:35:05 Well, we are talking about many years ago. Maybe they changed there policy 07:35:50 This would suck. 07:36:05 They can detect tor so I dont thing they would treat x tor user differently for y tor user 07:36:49 <17lifers:matrix.org> no. its either, wait, add an older proton acc as recovery email, or pay 07:37:02 <17lifers:matrix.org> to discourage spam from new accounts and proton getting blacklisted 07:37:27 Yeah, thats what I remember 07:37:38 I thought more about time being the difference rather than an exit node. Also, once in a while you do get very lucky and get an exit node that wasn't yet marked by sites as such. 07:37:47 Same for tutanota afaik 07:38:18 Wouldn't any non-Proton work as a recovery email? 07:38:48 Good question 07:39:50 Disposables might work or no (if it have a newish domain name) 07:42:50 And if it's a disposable, can you delete it later so that it doesn't stay as a backdoor to your account? 07:43:42 <17lifers:matrix.org> you all trying to game the system ._. 07:44:09 No, we're just using the Internet. 07:47:55 Okay, just tried it, and if you access it via Tor, the registration just errors out, not sure it behaves like this all the time. 07:58:20 i would be happy to pay for a email provider that you can pay per email and have multiple sub-emails. and dont tie phone or other email to it. but it has to be reasonable. 08:00:34 <17lifers:matrix.org> i have bulletproof email on the .su domain 08:00:37 <17lifers:matrix.org> lel 08:23:06 Don't .ru/.su need KYC for registration? Or there are resellers? 10:08:16 Good morning! I have Element installed on Linux mint, and it seems to be working. When I go to the Matrix HQ room, I can not send messages. It says something like "some of your messages have not been sent. retry or delete?" When I retry it does the same thing, and when I delete the message disappears. Can anyone tell me what is going on? 10:09:29 Tried Element recently, seen the CPU usage, deleted. 10:11:21 m-relay Is there anything that works better? 10:13:34 <17lifers:matrix.org> neochat and nheko are good desktop clients 10:17:55 please continue in #monero-offtopic:monero.social 10:21:23 Thanks Rando! 11:40:45 hi, 11:40:47 are there any foss monero wallets for android? 11:42:04 <17lifers:matrix.org> cake wallet 11:42:05 <17lifers:matrix.org> available from github 11:44:53 I wonder why they removed their F-Droid repo, even though they had one? They are on Accrescent, though. 11:46:27 Tried Accrescent recently and deleted it. Not only is it way too minimal, not even listing basic info like the app's website or git repo, but they don't even distinguish proprietary apps from open ones! Why isn't there any warning?? 11:46:33 <17lifers:matrix.org> whys everyone saying f-droid repo removed 11:46:35 <17lifers:matrix.org> they didnt! 11:46:37 <17lifers:matrix.org> https://fdroid.cakelabs.com/ 11:46:39 <17lifers:matrix.org> still online! 11:46:47 <17lifers:matrix.org> add to your fdoid and see latest version of cakewallet! 11:47:37 Huh, must've missed it. 11:49:49 Looked at it now and it's just not listed on their website's main page. Weird. 11:50:33 <17lifers:matrix.org> they dont want us to know about the secret repo :3 11:50:38 <17lifers:matrix.org> xd 11:51:29 That's just odd! 11:52:40 <17lifers:matrix.org> it's insider knowledge(tm) 11:54:11 So, Cakelabs.com is indeed something that's linked on the wallet's main page, but it doesn't list F-Droid either. 11:56:16 <17lifers:matrix.org> cakelabs are behind cakewallet 11:56:42 Yeah. 12:55:12 Fdroid sucks. Poor security practices. I would rather use Aurora or Obtanium. 12:58:36 I am aware of F-Droid's shortcomings, but still prefer it. Like, if I got Simple Mobile Tools from Aurora, I'd have got the dreaded update that enshittified them. 12:59:31 <17lifers:matrix.org> ausorastore = play store 12:59:31 Also some apps only release there, and some that are paid on Play Store (Osmand full version, Conversations) are free on F-Droid. 12:59:35 <17lifers:matrix.org> aurorastore = play store 12:59:45 <17lifers:matrix.org> only use if not available on github or fdroid 12:59:50 Same. 13:00:04 <17lifers:matrix.org> 🫂 13:01:17 Also, while it's not a big deal since I don't use it for much, Aurora can randomly deny your login because the shared accounts they used got rate-limited. 13:01:50 <17lifers:matrix.org> never happens to me xd 13:01:56 So if not F-Droid, I'd go for Obtainium, and Aurora is only for a couple apps that are on neither. 13:02:09 <17lifers:matrix.org> 99/100 cases it works in a single launch 13:02:33 17lifers, I just went to check whether Aurora lists whether the app is proprietary, I was not let in for this reason XD 13:05:40 Get pwned then. Their build infra is so outdated, numerous vulns in code signing software and prob way too many other things. Wireguard creator himself doesn't trust fdroid, whose IQ level is higher than all of us. 13:05:51 Accrescent is also weird - not only does it allow proprietary apps, but they don't mark them AT ALL. 13:06:14 Accrescrnt is trash 13:06:23 Daniel micay also advises against fdroid. Ask any real security researcher. They'll tell you the same. 13:06:45 micay is a cuck 13:07:00 Far from it. Your argument is trash. Giving me a thumbs down just shows you are full of shit 13:07:24 Fuck off. 13:07:30 He and GOS in particular have some... absolutist views. So while I love GOS, I disagree with some of their philosophy. 13:08:17 Of course you do. Imagine neglecting actual experts and being so ignorant. 13:08:43 You are just showing how stupid you are. 13:11:39 Accrescent is trash. Bluey already explained some of the shirtcomings - like listing proprietary versions (w/ no indication), having no app description, even dead apps like rimusic. And accrescent uses a different signing key, so even for proprietary trash, the apks incompatible with standard release channels. 13:11:41 its only promoted because micuck doesnt get along with fdroid devs 13:12:12 Would rather push proprietary trash on ppl than to stop acting like a 4 year old 13:13:33 Funny. It wasnt even 24hrs ago that you did this, here in this channel 13:13:43 I mean, I know F-Droid has its shortcomings, but I like what it provides. The bar for their warnings is a bit too low imo (like being dependent on a single service), but it is explained so you can judge whether it's actually a bad thing or not. 13:16:05 While it leaves some to be desired, its still higher than obtainium, accrescent, aurora, (who all provide no info) 13:17:13 You are not even responding to the actual stuff that matters. Remind me, when did I recommend Accrescent? 13:17:21 I like Obtainium at least. 13:17:52 Also you are the one being childish. Calling someone a cuck just because you disagree is pathetic. Have some decency. 13:18:03 The "no info" part doesn't bother me because you go there from the apps' repos in the first place anyway, you don't discover appps through there directly. 13:18:31 Learn to speak before you give out any pretentious advice. 13:18:40 ^ 13:19:03 Yes, you are still not responding to this. 13:19:07 ??? 13:19:28 it is literally in alpha 13:19:35 Ban him please. This kind of behavior shouldn't be tolerated. 13:19:48 im not a mod lol 13:20:07 Bro wanted to attack moo, and defend micuck 13:20:09 Whoever is, should do it. 13:20:22 I only mentioned Accrescent as an aside notice, and because I mentioned it before. 13:20:22 Reads 3 year old reports about fdroid and thinks he's a genius now 13:20:24 stop 13:20:52 No 13:21:03 Lmao. You are the definition of stupidity. No wonder you are disrespecting people. 13:21:13 what the hell is going on 13:21:16 (Bluey, rando was talking to me btw) 13:21:40 basses* was talking to me 13:21:48 Go to hell. You deserve to get pwned. 13:22:24 maybe this will help https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GxMGrYXXMAABnys?format=jpg&name=large 13:22:52 Yeah, going to get pwned running proprietary stuff from accrescent and avoiding floss software from fdroid 13:23:16 Typical freedumb. 13:23:30 Example: invizible pro is only fully free from fdroid. Unstopable wallet as well. Keepass dx is another 13:24:23 So your only argument is stuff is free? LMAO 13:24:23 Free as in cost versions compared to the "main" ones, or free as in freedom? F-Droid has examples of both. 13:24:54 Bro you are a leecher. You want people working for free? Devs don't deserve to get paid? 13:24:56 i am updating Cake wallet from Acrescent. Is it safe? 13:25:21 sbt, no, wouldn't mind donating to some devs (and have done so). 13:25:36 It is. I personally use aurora store because it's been around for a while. 13:25:37 <17lifers:matrix.org> bug reports are valid contributions yk 13:25:41 But now it's a bit hard to pay directly and the income is not what it used to be. 13:25:53 17lifers, code contributions too 13:26:07 That depends. Most are not even detailed and do not follow-up. 13:26:18 no, its that they cant slip in google libs for payment channels 13:26:20 bluey: as in freedom (which also often comes as cost because you cant add proprietery payment channels to the apps) 13:26:21 he means free as free software (libre etc) 13:26:35 You all are delusional. 13:26:56 basses, ye, got it - it's just that there were examples of both. 13:27:32 Aurora is just google play store. 13:27:40 also not all f-droid apps are "free" some contain non-free assets, libraries, service https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Anti-Features/ 13:27:58 <17lifers:matrix.org> anyone can make their own fdroid repo, good way of app distribution 13:28:12 accrescents cake has lagged behing many versions recently, and cant be updated any other way because of the signing key 13:28:34 ik some stuff about f-droid, they are not perfect 13:28:37 17lifers, yeah, and it's convenient to have your apps updated in one place. 13:29:20 basses, I don't mind some of the "anti-features", but it's always listed so you can decide for yourself. 13:29:49 Thanks. So, I should use f-droid to update cake? 13:30:01 No. Don't use it. 13:30:18 as I said, accrescent is in alpha stage, comparing it to f-droid doesn't make sense 13:30:19 He's stupid. Don't listen to him. 13:30:31 You'd have to uninstall the accrescent version if you want to update from fdroid, obtainium, or aurora/play store 13:31:01 Fdroid, obtainium, and aurora are all the same signing key 13:31:03 Use aurora store over Tor or VPN. It has no problems. 13:31:32 Its google play store. 13:31:45 he can, no mobile monero wallet is reproducible afaik, so it doesn't matter that much tbh. 13:32:04 Go ahead. Listen to these dumbfucks. 13:32:14 I wish someone develops a modern secure android monero wallet 13:32:17 sbt, it has a problem of still being the Play Store. 13:32:46 cake's fdroid repo is self-hosted, and doesnt rewuire google play to approve their updates. 13:32:48 They already distribute apk from site, get it from there. 13:32:57 Also the fact that if I wanted to install something, I would not have been able to because Google sent Aurora's accounts to timeout. 13:33:09 Or use obtanium. 13:33:13 aurora is crappy, I would use obtanium if possible 13:33:32 Obtainium relies on github (microsoft) or fdroid 😂 13:33:37 How about listing what's crappy instead of giving your opinion? 13:34:17 Your choice of words in this conversations makes me suspect you're a troll. 13:34:19 Its google play store. Requires google's approval 13:34:24 Microsoft is major funding for Linux foundation too. 13:34:36 Remove your tinfoil hat. 13:34:38 if you used it, you would know, (the anonymous mod) 13:34:46 What? 13:34:50 Shut the fuck up. I am done anyway. 13:34:57 my point is, why would i download frok microsoft or google, if i can download directly from cake?? 13:35:18 multiple other sources too, idk what you are trying to say 13:35:36 That obtainium isnt hosting anything 13:35:37 <17lifers:matrix.org> based 13:35:57 has there ever been a genuine account from nope dot chat? 13:35:58 <17lifers:matrix.org> everyone go celebrate 13:36:00 <17lifers:matrix.org> eeeee 13:36:07 Just like fdroid (for cake) isnt hosting anything 13:37:14 <17lifers:matrix.org> genuine? do you consider bro a bot 13:37:15 <17lifers:matrix.org> lol 13:38:54 genuine in intent 13:46:30 imagine insulting moo, defending micay, and not bringing your flame suit 🙃 13:49:12 *mooo 13:49:52 I didnt want to ping 13:56:57 * moneromooo lifts eyelid halfway, decides that keeping on ruminating is more rewarding, goes to sleep again 14:08:01 Are we 51% attacked yet? 14:11:30 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/oblak.be/dKNJlSCCymYmOIsUZbZLqxfM 14:11:35 Lol, anticlimax 14:30:21 attacked? The network HR hasn't moved :) 14:31:13 I started up my winter heaters for this? 14:54:21 lol how are they being ddosd? 14:54:50 cope? 14:55:47 they just gave more users a sale temporary 15:01:42 Gave more users a sale? What do you mean? What exactly were they doing? 15:05:29 Lower XMR price? But it's not them, the whole market is down 15:14:36 fud articles everywhere did help 15:18:41 I think the tornado cash case has an impact too 15:18:47 Regarding price. 15:19:41 In what sense? 15:21:22 Just highlighted the importance of privacy of transactions? 15:23:25 The ruling I think could lead to short term price action. Either positive or negative depending on the verdict. 15:24:03 Holders could be seeing the possibility of a negative ruling and hedging against that. 15:29:35 That Cfb is such a fraud 15:30:04 They were like "we're going to have 51% on August 2". 15:30:22 We'll it's august 2 and he hardly has 20%. 15:30:46 Now he tweets "let's see what we can have by 31st" 🙄 15:31:44 2 more weeks 15:34:23 Making bold claims and then not delivering, that's what I call a fraud. 15:36:42 Trying to attack another coin just to attract investors, that's what I call a scam. 15:37:41 All hail qubic 🧎‍♂️ 16:32:37 4 hours in they have 27%; they tend to have their hr drop throughout the day but then increase until it is above the old high water mark; my guess is that they reach somewhere between 30 and 35% by next noon UTC 16:42:37 he already failed lmao, killed any trust into his any other ~~scams~~ projects 16:46:08 Oh, nothing append, what a surprise. 16:56:56 They changed it to 2nd-31st August 🤣 17:00:57 To be fair, they said this already earlier. It's not that they extended *today* because their hashrate only hoovers around 30% or so right now. 17:24:40 hello people 17:55:36 preland they are currently around 25%, judging by the blocks they found 17:56:19 50/199 blocks since 12:00 UTC, which is ~25.1% 17:56:43 now 50/200 blocks, exactly 25% 17:57:58 My guess is it’ll drop to below 20% in the next couple hours before rising up again 20:06:11 I can't get protonmail to register a free account for me with a VPN or Tor, soooo aggravating. Any of you guys that says you're able to register one on vpn or tor wanna make $5 registering me one? 20:07:25 I tried it on Tor just today, it just endlessly errored out after I chose a plan. 20:08:23 yeah its driving me nuts. after a few hours i got to where it accepted my account details and then when i put in a secondary email it said abuse detected BS. 20:08:53 I wonder if this is going to go away after some wait?.. 20:09:20 i don't care how its registered if someone wants to make a quick $5 lol. i just want an email address that i can access over tor or vpn. 20:09:43 I have VPN on all the time on my router so im cooked lol 20:44:59 cmon guys, how is that relevant to Monero 🤦 20:51:00 I'm paying monero. 20:51:56 And Proton may be accepting monero soon. 20:54:28 I've heard they don't do it because it's harder in terms of compliance and they'd rather not bother. 20:54:51 This was very recent, so I'm hanging onto hope haha. 20:54:53 Would be nice. 20:58:17 Would be interesting to see! 21:14:55 <17lifers:matrix.org> tgey say in the summer roadmap, but summer's ending soon 21:15:28 <17lifers:matrix.org> they say in the summer roadmap, but summer's ending soon 21:16:53 Didn't know that! 21:19:31 [#monero-offtopic:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/%23monero-offtopic:monero.social) for the registration talk 21:27:16 p2pool, is there is a way to stop the thing to ban my workers? 21:27:17 my high hash rate workers keep getting banned for some reason 21:27:57 I only see that parameter about bans -> --stratum-ban-time N 21:29:50 I don't want to restart the p2pool thing 32 time to figure it out considering it's going to nuke 6Mh/s 21:30:47 I am going to redirect the stuff that get banned constantly to supportxmr then :D 21:34:36 use moneroocean or pool.xmr.pt or smth, spread the hashrate a bit 😅 21:38:41 Fine, I try moneroocean 21:43:37 Seam to hold with a test load. No idea why p2pool don't like high Hash rate 21:43:39 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xmr.mx/vACiuZGkoKBFwBYtpqqrmCyd 21:44:59