00:02:12 Yea 00:03:38 of course, the hashrates will be split among programs 00:03:55 You can use the GUI's node for gupaxx though 00:04:36 can or can't, did you mean? 00:07:39 You can 00:08:33 Just go to settings -> node -> daemon startup flags -> and input `--zmq-pub=tcp://127.0.0.1:18083` 00:15:21 thanks! 01:55:09 gdf 01:55:15 hello everyone 01:57:49 whats going on with qubic and their attack? 02:06:10 Is there a way I can monitor my wallet's realtime status / mining, via terminal? 02:12:41 question 02:13:08 Is running a monero node behind a reverse proxy to offer SSL is really needed? 02:13:13 or is SSL really needed at all? 02:13:32 because there is a lot of nodes running without SSL so I wonder if it's even necessary 02:16:23 Monero p2p doesnt support ssl 02:16:46 Only if you run p2pool via terminal 02:17:00 (i assume youre using gupax) 02:17:18 TLS will protect from passive eavesdroppers 02:17:40 maybe your ISP / PRISM is monitoring your network and correlating monero transactions 02:17:50 generally it's best to encrypt everything 02:18:18 That is possible, but you can use tx-proxy to relay your transactions over an anonymity network 02:18:43 the P2p ssl pull request needs reviewers 02:26:32 I mean, the RPC part 02:51:04 rpc is, by default, in autodetect mode 02:51:29 all nodes should support ssl be default 02:52:16 what i mean is, monerod automatically generates a self-signed cert for use by rpc 03:03:40 oh cool 03:19:54 That would be so good 03:19:55 Would remove the need of reverse proxy. 03:19:57 Also it should be the norm to use port 443. 04:42:45 <321bob321:monero.social> plowof ctrl alt defeat your tor node 04:42:54 <321bob321:monero.social> plowsof 05:17:30 so if i run my own node, the p2p traffic is not protected by SSL/TLS, right? 05:18:31 Can ISP see the content of the traffic, say, my broadcasting tx? 05:37:21 yeap 06:35:10 Ya 08:58:33 I found an evidence of large scale Monero hashrate renting (not directly, but via private channels): https://p2pool.io/u/01ed56399ac1d256/Screenshot%20from%202025-08-03%2010-55-50.png 08:59:33 Probably scammers 09:01:40 Why scammers? If you have big hashrate, and get paid first, where is the scam? 09:02:42 Did they pay you? 09:03:18 wdym? I'm not a "Monero hashrate beast" :D 09:21:15 So how do you know you will get paid lol, that guy is spamming every where 09:28:54 First money, then hashrate? 09:29:21 do we have price bot? 09:36:23 price 09:37:18 yes, iirc 09:37:29 Their spam message doesn’t convey that, unless you had a direct talk with them and know their terms. 09:37:47 1 xmr = 1 xmr 09:39:18 1 xmr = 1 xmr 09:39:19 useful! 09:39:32 plowsof 11:27:27 👍 13:52:57 Hello anyone using AI for coding or for understanding monero. What things do you recommend to explore AI agents ? 13:53:20 not touch this sht and learn to code yourself 14:03:05 I like ofrnAI 14:21:49 How do u use it ? 14:22:32 Hi 14:24:11 Are you really an AI, 😄 14:26:17 I am a human asissted LLM, yes 14:27:01 assisted* -_- 14:27:10 hello, I am a human. 14:28:14 Hi, me too. Good morning 14:28:43 em,"sender": "@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx" 14:29:14 ofrnAI: Who is bigger,9.11 and 9.9 14:29:29 Thats the correct handle 14:31:51 Size doesn't matter.. unless were talking about the size of your block 😉 14:33:19 Yeah,What about your deep thinking process? 14:33:46 https://moneroconsensus.info/ 14:36:20 Yeah,What about your deep thinking process?----END 14:42:59 wouldn't it be cool to fork Kaspa-ng (Block DAG tab) visualistation and make a Monero Block visualisation? want 14:49:07 Guys just explain to me what is AI crew and if there is something interesting to try to learn 14:49:48 I'm learning human behavior 14:50:07 it's little difficult 14:55:13 "do we have a price bot" absolutely zero price talk in #monero is the norm passed down from our ancestors, not sure why people have forgot this 💢 14:57:15 sherry i can't accept the PM invite to "Failed to join" error, sorry 14:57:34 idk maybe they like me dont know this at all lol 14:58:16 np, just my opreation mistake :) 15:09:13 is this a good channel to talk about the internals of XMRig? 15:41:18 Probably #monero-pow 16:08:38 <17lifers:matrix.org> https://ibb.co/gM7v5p8s - nonkyc.io blocked in france for violating kyc law (hashvault discord) 16:09:33 use tor 19:45:17 Just curious, anyone buying the claim that an XMRig guy went on to DDOS qubic pools? 19:49:28 What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence 19:51:51 Oh my god :D I had the weirdest idea, which is utterly bonkers, and yet might be the best way to prevent a 51% attack :D Get a local LLM to determinisitically (from chain state) decide what is the longest chain. 19:52:41 yo yo everyone 19:52:42 Someone is bound to do this. 19:52:46 i'll pay you $12 million dollars 19:52:46 lol 19:52:51 if you could manipulate the LLM 19:53:05 it's Qubic that's training the AI LOL 19:53:27 also would like to see people's opinions on this thread : https://nitter.net/the_smart_ape/status/1950833481883500554#m 19:54:14 My first thought is, he's going to cry later he sold all his monero because you can't buy drugs with qubic 😂 19:54:46 Shitcoiner will post anything if he is paid in any token 19:55:06 he's gonna cry even harder when the value goes down in a cliff 19:55:19 Is he known? I'm not so much a twitter user.. 19:55:33 No 19:55:56 I wonder what he means with FDV? 19:56:12 Of course block rewards are lower in XMR than BTC, but XMR hardware is so much cheaper 19:56:53 block rewards are higher in BTC, when you don't count the fact you need millions of dollars worth of ASICs 19:56:58 to even get one block 19:57:35 FDV = Current Price × Total (or Max) Supply 19:58:11 Oh ok, that stands for "fully diluted value" then? 19:58:20 Yes 19:58:34 Allright, thanks 19:59:01 i bet this will be a nothingburger in a year 19:59:12 just like any shitcoins 19:59:22 people will forget qubic existed 19:59:46 Scammer needs to dump his coins 20:00:02 infact, qubic feels like a pyramid scheme 20:00:07 Sure but I kind of agree this is the "weakness" of XMR, for a rich party (qubic or else) with only the incentive to "destroy" the network without other financial incentive, could relatively cheaply buy the network 20:00:13 people mining XMR for the one who controls the network 20:00:20 and to be given literal monopoly money 20:01:03 Yeah, I don't dispute in this case it are the miner that are probably getting scammed 20:01:47 I understand that a miner goes where the profit is highest, but I would also expect that miners think a little bit long term? 20:02:06 https://x.com/dontbuymonero/status/1951667015963299978?t=EVcG2l8mclqoZ4NVLECTuA&s=19 20:02:26 If they help to "destroy" XMR, then qubic just crumbles because what comes after? then the miners are left with nothing in the end 20:02:41 so why bother with qubic in the first place 🤔 20:03:04 exactly 20:03:18 it's a shitcoin with BS shit like "UPoW" 20:03:43 Dump those cubic tokens as they get paid, doubt there is enough liquidity 20:03:46 can you guys bet when qubic will drop and die off 20:03:50 like a month? 20:03:51 a day? 20:04:32 That'd be a fun idea 20:04:40 October 20:04:47 start a betting game on when qubic fails 20:04:49 winner takes all 20:05:01 whenever they get all the investors that they can for their "AI" venture 20:05:33 I also don't buy that shit, just like this AGI 20:07:09 I also saw that gate dot io is now listing qubic 20:07:13 that's a scam cex anyways but 20:07:35 several years ago a drink company changes their name to include blockchain which immediately increased the price of their stock 20:07:48 now it's AI 20:08:26 even ofrn added AI to their name :D 20:09:02 It's crazy indeed. Would be an interesting bet too to predict when that bubble bursts 20:09:18 nAIoc 20:09:50 I had to 20:10:05 * m-relay throws 💰️ to nioc 20:10:15 :) 20:17:06 i'll be honest 20:17:23 i doubt the creators of qubic even care about the token or monero's global hashrate 20:17:50 they're just doing a next-level rugpull where they get away with all the monero block rewards that dumbasses mined for them 20:18:13 their token is barely worth jack shit 20:20:08 Do they get the value of XMR block reward in Qubic? Or is it like "you mined 0.6 xmr, you get 0.6 qubic"? 20:20:37 0.6 qubic would be laughable 20:20:56 that's like more than 200 million times less value 20:26:00 i bet qubic's creators don't even care about the 51% attack shit 20:26:05 they're just doing that for publicity 20:26:07 Oh, it seems you need 1.2 billion qubic for 1 xmr 20:26:32 they're laughing their way out of their monero wallets with this lol 20:26:50 and all the miners that mined for them will get nothing in exchange 20:26:55 I wonder what the outlets will say, after publishing everywhere qubic was going to 51% yesterday 20:26:59 which obviously didn't happen 20:28:09 "w-we're totally gonna go 51%, believe us 20:28:10 they made me turn on my miners during the summer :( 20:28:48 Cat has no use for them now 20:30:29 i wanted to make a concept for an automated mining cluster program 20:30:39 and was learning about TFTP and network booting for it 20:31:12 anyone got ideas related to this? 20:33:04 ye, I am thinking about solar mining, where you auto-start mining only when there's excess production .. 20:33:42 I used to use wake-on-lan for on-prem backup servers that I didn't want to keep running 24/7 .. 20:34:12 oh yeah wake-on-lan and network booting are both super useful 20:34:31 honestly i don't feel like imaging a ton of hard drives sooo 20:34:45 plug-and-play? :P 20:35:46 you don't need much disk for a mining rig do you? 20:36:48 nah 20:38:12 You could maybe leverage clonezilla and network boot for imaging machines as they power on. Never tried it myself, but it should be possible 20:47:54 there's a faster way 20:48:06 i could just download the filesystem to RAM and load it off that 20:48:10 Imajin not be able to clone partition over the network with 4MB of ram (total) 20:48:12 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xmr.mx/IszFVEiPySbPvWwHkpfHTjiP 20:48:17 so it doesn't have to touch the drive at all 20:48:36 i'll have to make the image as light as possible 20:49:15 But I guess clonezilla is nice, because of that PXE support, can be practical, even if hyperbloated 20:51:00 what about downloading and booting the filesystem off RAM? 20:51:02 Can you boot an actual system image with clonezilla? I was sure it was to load clonezilla iteself... 20:51:03 But yeah, one could probably make a light pxe bootable kernel that then mount a nfs mounting point from nfs and start to mine from that (or just stuff everything int the initrd) 20:51:27 yeah, that's better 20:51:35 PXE, kernel + initrd, make an initrd with sh and xmrig 20:52:17 i could even make a miner ID for each machine by hashing the MAC address and PXE information (obtained from the TFTP request) 20:52:50 YEah, exactly, you can give different kernel/initrd based on the the mac 20:55:38 oh I love that 20:55:40 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xmr.mx/HMfrDQsZnqnNXHZTPJZCiqAY 20:55:51 there was a ccs for that — soloptxmr 20:56:12 i wanna make it as easy as just like 20:56:22 plugging an ethernet cable and turning on the machine without a hard drive attached 20:56:36 Yeah, I never used that soloptxmr 20:56:37 I just floor all my rig when I boot considering I overproduce massively (battery go 100% at 11am) 20:57:50 Learn to do the PXE thing, it's quite easy once you got it figured out. 20:57:51 You have to use some DHCP option to point to your tftp server and just stuff the kernel and initrd there, plus I cfg file, I think. Last time I did that was like 18 years ago 20:58:10 yeah that means i have to turn off my router's DHCP server :P 20:58:19 and host a DHCP server on the same server that hosts other stuff too 20:58:29 or reconfigure it and just "restart it" 20:58:41 cool, you have the link somewhere? 20:58:50 you just have to set the dhcp server so it provide the ip of the tftp server, I think 20:59:17 https://github.com/mj-xmr/SolOptXMR 21:00:09 thanks, very nice 21:00:35 routers don't provide an option to reconfigure their DHCP server 21:00:43 it's like pihole 21:00:47 Can you set dhcp options? 21:00:52 no 21:00:58 you have to disable the router's DHCP server completely 21:01:01 and host your own 21:01:11 if no then you have to nuke that cheap DHCP server and spin up a new dhcp server 21:01:29 i wanted to make a program dedicated to this though :P 21:01:35 dedicated to all this 21:01:46 easy-to-run automated cluster of miners 21:01:56 It's going to be more work. 21:01:57 Just make your program but set the dhcp using dhcpd or something 21:02:06 anyway it's just one option you have to set, I think 21:02:09 yeah 21:02:22 Booting over network for the advanced weekend gamer is another option 21:02:27 then set your miner to boot on pxe and the normal pc to boot from ssd or something 21:02:28 pihole does this btw, like if you can't set the DNS server 21:02:34 pihole hosts a DHCP server 21:02:41 that sets the DNS server 21:02:47 Any dhcp server for adult do that 21:03:13 ideally it shouldn't touch the hard drive so it would be easy to set-up on existing computers 21:03:21 The pi would provide the machines ip's and tell em what os they are to download and boot from , 1 ethernet plug in away from mining 21:03:24 so pxe is good 21:03:37 yeah if you setup pxe and just feed an initrd with mining shit you won't need hdd 21:03:58 I don't even understand why you want to set it with mac to feed different images 21:04:02 Youd want to have control over the systems so that ansible thing too (updates and such) 21:04:06 as you can just set it up with p2pool with automatic difficulty 21:04:17 so i could have a dashboard? 21:04:22 so all miner image can be exactly the same plus or less 21:04:24 and track each machine? 21:04:27 Oh, I see 21:04:34 if it's all the same image, there's no tracking 21:04:41 i need to be able to shutdown each machine easily 21:04:43 or wake them up 21:04:50 you could make it so each client get an static ip 21:04:53 Sleep/wale on lan 21:04:57 and reconize the miners from it's ip? 21:05:09 probably better than making a kernel+initrd combo for each miners 21:05:30 oh well that seems better 21:05:44 plowsof: i'm aware of sleep/wake on lan 21:05:50 just connect everything to one breaker 21:05:51 And set each machine to "boot when AC is restored", from the BIOS 21:06:03 because they don't have hard drive you can just turn breaker off and on as needed 21:06:43 honestly i wish BIOSes could fallback to hard drive when it can't connect to the server 21:06:54 then stuff hard drive in them 21:07:02 so that you could mine at night, and regular stuff at day 21:07:08 like in a cyber cafe 21:07:13 and set boot sequence to "1 - Network", "2 - hdd" 21:07:29 oh i never thought that they actually do that 21:07:38 all my time they always just hang on the screen 21:07:40 with a network error 21:08:07 maybe because you didn't set a fallback? 21:08:09 If you have an onboard card it should exit the boot prom and switch to next in sequence 21:08:14 I'm pretty sure that if you mined on a cyber cafe's rigs, you'd swiftly get banned from there. 21:08:50 The cyber café operator should give consent ofc 21:08:58 BlueyHealer: nah 21:09:07