10:14:18 So im using gupax to mine monero on p2pool but i have a proble. I cant seem to disable the donate level 10:14:27 how would i do it? 11:11:37 You have to buildd xmrig from source to disable donations iirc https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig/blob/master/src/donate.h 11:14:54 Isn't it possible to set `"donate-level": 0` in the config file or as command arg? 11:22:42 <17lifers:matrix.org> no, the lowest is 1, even if set to 0. if set to 0, it will be set to the minimum specified in src whcih is 1 11:22:59 Ok I see, good to know 11:24:01 <321bob321:monero.social> Yeah 1 11:25:04 <321bob321:monero.social> https://xmrig.com/wizard?#misc 14:02:47 Guys where can I download the OPSEC bible? 14:11:32 if only there was a way to search for that info 14:12:04 wow 14:12:12 maybe i'll use ask jeeves 14:12:41 <17lifers:matrix.org> how do you know that it exists but not where to find it? 14:12:43 <17lifers:matrix.org> 💀 14:12:54 it was discussed here 14:13:06 so they asked here 14:13:23 like honestly 14:13:30 you can find it by.. searching it 14:14:19 I still keep telling the other old people that they can find most things with their tracking devices 14:14:45 i can't search it :( 14:14:48 ask jeeves is down 14:14:49 we used to go to the library to find information 14:14:55 I know it exist. And I searched for it. 14:14:55 I found this link: https://gist.github.com/vil/7dfdb362d3aef91183101c300da3c543 14:14:57 I just want to check if this one is the right one. 14:14:57 when will they like.. bring it back up 14:15:09 down? so sad 14:15:14 Because I though the OPSEC bible was a book 14:15:29 nah this isn't opsec bible 14:15:32 this is wish.com opsec bible 14:15:37 aliexpress version 14:16:25 May I ask for the link of the true OPSEC bible ? 14:16:46 i think i found it while i was looking through xmrbazaar listings 14:17:20 i don't remember, it was by some guy named nihilist 14:17:26 https://xmrbazaar.com/listing/UsWA/ 14:19:43 I read the article. So just to be sure. 14:19:45 This is the link for the OPSEC bible : http://opbible7nans45sg33cbyeiwqmlp5fu7lklu6jd6f3mivrjeqadco5yd.onion/opsec/contribute/ ? 14:19:58 i mean.... looks like it? 14:20:10 it doesn't look like a book 14:20:13 but it looks like a wiki 14:22:51 Well... Yeah it looks like a wiki. 14:23:01 Thanks for the help 18:19:43 Also available on http://nihilvrsb7kkidol2uuj3wmjdfovhchcsiebhu256l2jxajhp7za.b32.i2p/ 19:13:13 what is this qubic shit? 19:13:34 can a monero addict explain? 19:13:35 cryptobro trying to look tough lol 19:13:43 he has this token where you can mine monero 19:13:49 and whatever it is, will burn that monero for qubic 19:13:57 with his mining pool 19:14:11 and he wants to attract more miners to reach 51% hashrate 19:14:21 so he can have a monopoly over the network 19:14:22 <17lifers:matrix.org> ai training platform(tm) 19:14:23 <17lifers:matrix.org> or so they say 19:14:31 that shit is a meme lol 19:14:42 90% of qubic's talking points are pure bullshit 19:14:49 or maybe more than that 19:15:01 its just a scam parasitic token 19:16:34 Cindy: burn? 19:16:53 51% will be much easier if we dont fix the proce @nioc 19:16:58 sell monero for qubic 19:17:14 honestly to me, it sounds like a scam 19:17:16 so they mine monero 19:17:25 and then sell the monero for qubic coins 19:17:27 yeah they mine monero 19:17:29 yes 19:17:33 xD 19:17:40 well 19:17:41 Sell it, ans then buy their low volume "coin" 19:17:49 the only solution is to mine more right? 19:18:00 mine more to push them away 19:18:03 and decentralize mining 19:18:13 like stop people from mining in centralized big pools 19:18:13 I already run a monero node 19:18:20 does that affect anything? 19:18:22 lol 19:18:30 no 19:18:34 ofrnxmr I don't have to sell for a year 19:18:49 to me, this qubic shit sounds like a scam 19:18:55 i bet this guy doesn't even care about 51% 19:18:59 he just wants the XMRs 19:19:06 and will rugpull the community in a different way 19:19:10 they keep wanting to give me loans, maybe get some more rigs 19:20:02 we need more MINERS!!! 19:22:07 <17lifers:matrix.org> XMRIG HARDER AND HARDER 19:22:32 qubic shills posting in monero subreddit saying it will destroy monero > price go down 19:22:34 monero go to qubic subreddit and say it ultimately won qubic and proved it supremacy > price goes up 19:22:37 ez 19:22:48 and we should do the same amount of posts they did in r/monero 19:23:26 like 3003 posts and +3214981320 comments 19:23:40 i googled the founder of qubic 19:23:52 and found mentions of lawsuits about fraud 19:23:58 i remember the name from long ago 19:24:01 how come cryptobros are always like this 19:24:26 sorry ape grifters 19:24:40 your extra dollar reward (that's coming from his pockets) aren't convincing 19:36:56 well 19:36:57 can I mine with 25% of my CPU? 19:37:12 yes, you can mine with a specific amount of threads 19:37:28 but RandomX is quite RAM-heavy 19:37:37 i'd say 2GB 19:37:40 I have enough RAM 19:37:45 not enough CPU 19:38:17 anything hosted on the servers themselves? 19:38:24 is the server at constant-load, 19:38:28 constant-load? 19:38:46 yeah 19:38:49 also need 2MB L3 cache per thread 19:38:54 yeah, no 19:38:55 but not too heavy 19:38:55 that's a bad idea 19:39:06 don't mine monero in a server with its own problems 19:39:08 so many intel cpus are limited 19:39:08 2 load average of 6 cores 19:39:21 hm 2 out of 6 cores? 19:39:33 yeah 19:39:49 you could mine on 4 threads 19:40:03 nah I would prefer to mine on 1 instead lol 19:40:05 and see how it'll affect the rest of your server 19:40:09 oh sure lol 19:40:10 it's up to you 19:40:20 but is not possible to do less than 1? 19:40:20 nioc: 2MB L3 cache per core? 19:40:32 nah you can't do less than 1 thread 19:40:36 that's like.. impossible 19:40:40 I see 19:40:45 you can't do a half A-press 19:40:47 my cores have 2 threads 19:41:17 if you use just one thread in on core then yeah 2MB/core :D 19:41:32 *one core 19:41:49 just do 1 thread mining 19:42:02 or at least, adjust threads according to load 19:43:08 and I guess p2pool is the best ne 19:43:11 and I guess p2pool is the best one 19:43:15 because is p2p of course lol 19:44:26 i mean 19:44:34 you should p2pool in another server 19:44:40 you should host p2pool* 19:45:11 or maybe just configure it to offload verification to the monero node 19:46:37 I use --light-mode for p2pool, it doesn't utilize much cpu or ram, works fine 19:46:51 yeah RandomX light mode uses 256MB 19:47:04 but it's slower, only meant for verification i guess 19:47:16 verification of what 19:47:37 verification of the mined results 19:48:03 or hashes i should call them 19:50:11 again fijxu, since you host your own monero node 19:50:28 you can use --no-randomx, which will offload that verification stuff to your monero node via RPC calls 19:51:06 which will save up 256MB (on top of the 2GB regular RandomX mode) 19:51:19 an additional 256MB* 19:52:30 cool 19:52:31 also 19:52:35 I'm retarded 19:52:56 how 19:52:58 so what's the difference between 18081 and 18089 ports for monerod RPC 19:53:17 i think one of them is ZMQ and uhh 19:53:20 one of them is RPC? 19:53:21 i don't know 19:53:31 monerod hosts 2 ports 19:53:32 89 is zmq i think, for instant notifications fromm node 19:53:35 Cindy yes 19:53:37 zmq is different 19:53:56 p2pool needs zmq 19:54:18 zmq is a thing like webhook, so you don't poll node for new blocks or whatever info 19:54:37 as i understand 19:54:40 18089 is a convention for public RPC port. 18081 is the default RPC port. zmq convention is 18083. 19:54:45 sorry to interrupt but quick question about p2pool; is there a payout minimum like with classic pools, or do you just get paid anytime you get a reward? 19:54:55 zmq pub/sub is... I don't think there is a convention for this one. 19:55:43 eddit: yes, each new block found on p2pool you get a peace of 19:55:48 eddie* 19:55:54 eddie you get paid anytime you have a share in the PPLNS window when the pool finds a block 19:56:06 AFAIK, you build your own coinbase with p2pool, so no minimum, it's exactly what you're owed. 19:56:11 nioc said it more precisely :) 19:56:21 cool 19:56:23 thanks! 19:56:41 " 18089 is a convention for public RPC port. 18081 is the default RPC port. zmq convention is 18083." < 18082 for zmq 19:57:32 Oh, yes. 82 for zmq rpc, 83 for pub/sub. Thanks. 19:57:41 ofrn says (cuz i like to be neat): Zmq pub/sub is 18083 (to be next to zmq), tor inbound 18084, i2p inbound 18085 19:58:48 18089 restricted rpc, 81 (default) unrestricted 19:59:21 18083+ arent defaulted to anything though. All manually set ports 19:59:42 18080 is a play on 80 -> 8080 -> 18080. 🧠 20:08:26 oke I'm now mining at 460H/s lol 20:08:27 nothing 20:08:39 at least is something 20:09:05 that's 1 thread? 20:09:15 yep 20:10:07 add 3 more, if you only have load 2 / 6 20:10:54 together we'll defeat those qubic clowns :D 20:11:19 maybe I should really buy some solar panels 20:11:24 and some batteries 20:12:29 that's always a good idea not just for mining 20:12:41 if you live in a sunny place of course 20:12:50 yes I live in a sunny place 20:13:02 and a 100W solar panel here is like 47USD I guess 20:13:14 kinda cheap I guess 20:14:27 one 100W solar panel is not the other 20:15:11 there's a whole science to solar 😅 20:15:52 but I can only encourage you to try 20:27:04 "monero is eco-unfriendly" 20:27:12 solar panel says what 20:27:41 monero is super eco friendly 20:28:17 funny thing is "then came AI" and everyone was like "fuck the environment" 20:28:19 Why xmr dumped 20:28:35 because people sell it, that's how it works 20:28:50 but I heard price talk is not allowed here 20:29:01 Oh sry 20:29:30 iirc there's #monero-markets for that 20:33:09 "money is eco-unfriendly" fify 20:40:58 Imo we should change this policy, the price is the most important thing about XMR, if it were 10x higher the hashrate would be high enough where we wouldn’t have to worry about a shitcoin taking over the network 20:41:56 I'm not sure how a fluctuating price would help in any way a coin to be adopted 20:44:28 (oh, not the marketing group, still, point is there) 20:44:40 I’m talking about security, a higher price gives more budget to secure the network 20:49:09 or maybe more attractiveness to miners? 20:49:32 because 10x higher means 10x higher rewards 20:49:50 up until more miners join in 20:50:31 but more miners would mean less rewards, no? 20:50:33 for each that is 20:50:53 yes indeed, it's simple math 20:51:04 you have a pie, share it amongst 4 people 20:51:13 than try to share same pie amongst 8 20:51:19 slices will have to be smaller 20:51:38 yeah, unless blocks are created faster? but the ~2minutes should be steady-ish right? 20:52:09 yep 20:52:17 I think it was changed during a hardfork in 2016? before there were more blocks? 20:52:28 i meant 20:52:30 smaller slices of pie but they have the same calories 20:52:36 higher price means much bigger pie to split 20:52:44 nioc: totally :3 20:53:02 no because the blocks / amounts of monero remain the same 20:53:12 smaller slices just get more expensive in dollar terms 20:53:52 but the dollar value of 1 monero has nothing to do with monero itself, in a way .. 20:54:04 i knoow 20:54:14 ideally no 20:54:57 but there's a simple solution to get higher monero price 20:55:02 spend more money buying it 20:55:14 is tradeogre dumping their exit scammed monero? 20:55:47 can we tell if their monero has moved? 20:56:37 other coins are ez 20:56:42 to see 20:57:04 it's the whole point of monero that you shouldn't 20:59:25 I thought about that 20:59:39 But we will never know 20:59:58 Was 1 minute before, with half as much rewards 21:02:56 so total volume in rewards stayed the same? 21:09:01 Yup 21:35:24 Is there a chat dedicated to Qubic countermeasures? 21:35:44 the only countermeasure is mining more 21:38:54 <17lifers:matrix.org> raid your ewaste recycling businesses 21:41:05 Monero could enforce solo mining. 21:41:26 sounds like a terrible idea 21:41:37 solo mining is unscalable 21:41:56 atleast p2pool is 21:42:07 p2pool should be the way to go. 21:42:09 don't see any downsides to it, maybe there are tho 21:42:32 nah, not as many downsides as a centralized pool 21:42:39 Not here to debate it; just pointing out it is an option. 21:42:55 even then 21:43:03 a person could stilll make a pool system 21:43:18 by solo-mining in one machine, and forwarding blocks to others to solve 21:43:36 one machine that forwards blocks* 21:43:46 for the network what would be the difference between solo, pool and p2pool? is it even possible to detect? 21:46:51 solo and pool might look the same 21:47:14 Cindy: Your objection only has validity if the signing and PoW are separate steps. Integrate the signing into the PoW itself, include it in RandomX, and no the scheme you describe should not work. 21:47:22 There is a small separation with the way it has been done previously, in that you sign each iteration before performing PoW. This would still mean you have to sign and send a huge number of messages out to workers. 21:48:04 how would you integrate signing into RandomX 21:49:48 Any method of forcing a signature somewhere in the middle of PoW would suffice. It could be an operation the algorithm selects, any number of things. 21:50:08 and.. how would you verify? 21:50:10 i mean 21:50:24 i'd assume you'd shove a ed25519 there, so... 21:50:42 does the consenus have to include "verifying the signature with the miner's public address" 21:51:19 Problem with solo-only, is connectivity 21:52:32 ofrnxmr: Might I ask you to detail that thought a bit more? 21:53:21 even if you managed to shove signing in the PoW algorithm 21:53:37 someone can manage to design a system to offload signing in-between the PoW 21:53:40 If i am mining at home, with 12out 100in connections, it will take me longer to propagate my block (especially if partially sybilled) than a large miner who has 1000 peers 21:54:25 unless you make a billion signatures in the PoW challenge 21:54:29 P2pool gets around this by having the block propagated by all of the miners 21:54:31 like inside the random code 21:57:18 In my opinion these arguments are not compelling. I stand by my statements above, and I think it is worth considering. 22:02:04 Wownero does solo-only, and my understanding is that it doesnt prevent someone from building pool-like infra ontop of it 22:02:30