00:00:02 but i guess i can put the p2pool node on the same server as the monerod? 00:00:02 okay well that answers our questions 00:00:04 Nothing like the pain of cgnat. :) 00:00:12 you can do that yes 00:00:20 yes that's better 00:00:24 it's what I do for my current p2pooling 00:00:30 but you can just bear p2pool without incoming conns 00:00:51 It's working just as good afaik, with the outgoing only 00:01:08 but your just less collaborating with the network I guess 00:01:24 imo yoiu should put the p2pool deamon as near as the node as possible 00:01:33 also btw i rescind my message 00:01:47 it's fine to run p2pool in a NAT, as long as it can tell the router to forward ports via UPnP 00:01:58 i see, tomorrow might set it up properly on the same server as the node 00:02:01 (or do it yourself manually if it doesn't support UPnP) 00:02:16 cindy not on cgnat tho xD but yeah, i get what you mean 00:02:17 yeah, most people don't live in the first world sadly 00:02:24 cgnat is everywhere else mostly 00:02:38 lol, yeah i know 00:02:46 CGNAT will never let you forward ports 00:02:53 I grow up having static IP from ISP 00:02:53 Now I import IP from VPS lol 00:03:17 i have a dynamic IP, but my ISP lets me forward ports 00:03:31 mobile users (4G) have CGNAT though 00:03:38 normally if your ISP give you an IP, then you can do pretty much what you want 00:03:42 but most of the world have CGNAT 00:03:50 outside US/CAN/EU 00:03:58 even for normal cable/fiber internet 00:04:07 i'm outside the 1st world 00:04:22 all my ISP does is cycle between IPs 00:04:33 I am to, only one ISP have world reacheable IP, only with Fiber 00:04:37 it's annoying because it keeps cutting connections when they do switch around IPs 00:04:49 that's another problem 00:05:09 AT least with one provider I did test, persistant connection where curring every minutes or so 00:05:19 I needed to set "keep alive" for it to not get killed 00:05:36 s/curring/cutting/g 00:06:14 at least i can forward ports on my dynamic IP 00:06:20 that's the least i can ask for 00:06:32 Yeah, when they give you real IP it's great 00:06:36 even if dynamic 00:06:57 some Docsis have dynamic IP that stay "static" as long as the same MAC is plugged in the modem 00:07:36 also btw 00:07:44 alexandre: do you have a VPN? 00:07:58 or can you use your server as a wireguard VPN? 00:08:17 L2 vpn are nice 00:08:17 get cheap vps with second IP 00:08:19 do TUN/TAP shenanigans 00:08:21 bring IP home right to your router 00:08:22 Starlink is CGNAT as well. xD 00:08:35 you can skip the whole CGNAT shit with a wireguard VPN 00:08:44 mullvad is pretty good for this 00:08:51 yes, but if you get rid of the stupid router you actually get normal IPV6 (not cgnat) 00:09:09 Starlink cable is normal ethernet with 48V poe 00:09:28 get rid of starlink stupid router 00:09:39 plug starlink directly into router for adult or mikrotik or whatever 00:09:43 you get routable /64 00:10:17 i wonder if you can do UPnP through wireguard 00:10:29 don't use wireguard 00:10:32 might make it easy to automate port forwarding 00:10:33 thats' L2 00:10:36 oups 00:10:37 L3 00:10:38 i don't mean starlink 00:10:39 wireguard is L3 00:10:41 you need L2 00:10:53 Softether and OpenVPN can do L2 00:11:16 wireguard is a L2 too though 00:11:21 non 00:11:24 how 00:11:37 it's L3 afaik, you have to do ip routing 00:11:38 while L2 allow anything in the wire 00:11:45 Yeah, I've got direct ipv6, but that only works for some bits, and I've got their proper ipv6 sub so my machines all have routables. It's just a pain. 00:11:59 in a vps, you create a dummy interface 00:12:08 then you TAP that interface to a VPS virtual interface 00:12:20 then on your router, you TAP a virtual interface to that VPS interface 00:12:34 then you can set your vps static ipv4/6 right in your router 00:12:38 wikipedia literally lists wireguard 00:12:40 and is it like it's a static ip 00:12:42 in one of the TUN/TAP aplications 00:12:52 maybe it's new.... 00:12:58 and frankly wireguard has better performance than openVPN 00:13:10 I use softether for L2 shenanignas 00:13:15 it kill wireguard out of the water 00:13:27 openvpn is slow in my experiance too 00:13:45 softether just hosts a bunch of protocols 00:13:48 most people don't know that Japanese thing that is SoftEther for some reason, so funny 00:14:09 But the core part of softether do L2 too 00:14:10 and is extremely flexible 00:14:21 and it's way easier to use than wireguard 00:14:37 does it have encryption 00:14:52 yeah, 384 bits AES-GCM (and many other choices 00:15:22 i'm more of a chacha20 person :P 00:16:09 i see softether supports wireguard only in their DE edition 00:16:26 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/xmr.mx/uPlSNIAEnOfQhfQuOBPibUJd 00:16:31 oh, you don't have images lol 00:16:37 yes, softether have chacha20 too 00:16:44 nice 00:17:03 one question though 00:17:06 and it's only aes256 with sha384 (was going from memory, you can select many chiffers 00:17:14 can you actually do UPnP 00:17:26 Well, you literally import the IP in your router 00:17:33 if you can do it properly 00:17:36 with bridge and all 00:17:45 so at the end, can your router do uPNP? 00:18:10 i mean 00:18:14 can the VPS' router do UPnP? 00:18:20 okay that's a dumb question 00:18:22 you do need a router for adult considering you have to bridge the virtual interface you made for softether into your router 00:18:27 i doubt VPS is behind a NAT 00:18:34 but then you set IP, gateway and shit in your router for that interface 00:18:42 and upnp should work if said router support it 00:18:56 i checked my VPS' ifconfig and it lists the public IP under the interface 00:18:59 VPS in a VPS provider of your choice... 00:19:28 ignore my dumb question, i thought VPSes were behind NAT lol 00:19:28 then your router need to be able to run softether 00:19:29 OR you need to be able to make a link between a VM running softether to your router 00:19:48 VPS are like servers.guru, kyun.host, veesp.com, etc, etc, etc 00:19:57 does my router really have to run softether? 00:20:08 like i could just use L2IP 00:20:12 Well, if you want L2 shit 00:20:20 Softether support many protocol 00:20:27 so I don't know what/which can do L2 properly 00:20:34 I just run softether in a VM somewhere lol 00:20:56 And do Mikrotik magic shenanigans 00:21:30 also btw i don't have IPv6 00:21:37 do you? :P 00:21:45 (just on an unrelated note) 00:22:07 I have CGNAT ipv4 00:22:07 And IPV6 because I ditched ISP router so I can have IPV6 that allow connections 00:22:32 my ISP does not bother with IPv6 00:22:34 but I host ton of shit behind my ipv4 using said softether/mikrotik shenanigans 00:22:42 in fact i checked my ASN, and they don't even announce any IPv6 routes 00:22:45 it's just IPv4 lol 00:22:46 IPv6 is great 00:22:53 but yeah, so many lazy isp 00:23:25 one of my monero node in Canada don't have IPV6 too... there so lazy they can't even provide ipv6... only the biggest monopole in eastern canada lol 00:23:50 if i want IPv6, i'd have to use tor 00:24:19 From what I did see in my latam country, we get ipv6 everywhere, no issue (sometime the isp provider router block incoming but you just ditch said router and it fix it) 00:25:20 also my ISP still has their decade-old DPI 00:25:55 if i make an unencrypted HTTP request with the Host header set to some forbidden domain (it doesn't matter what IP i send it to), it'll automatically reset my connection 00:26:11 lol 00:26:27 unencrypted http is only used for like retro shit 00:27:15 the domains that it blocked haven't existed since 15 years ago or so 02:15:34 my monerod and p2pool are both running behind NAT. The monerod doesn’t have incoming connections, but p2pool has.Why 02:15:58 They r in the same laptop 02:17:58 Upnp? 02:43:58 yes 02:44:23 check your router's port forwarding rules 02:44:57 you should see the rules added by UPnP 02:45:12 and check if monerod is one of them 02:53:28 thanks let me have a look 04:35:27 <3​21bob321:monero.social> Cgnat ? 04:51:28 Did you notice guys as the price started going back up, the narrative changed from OH MY GOD MONERO IS DED -> Yeah actually guys mhm Qubic had at most 30% it was all fake news 04:51:50 It’s so blantant it’s almost funny 06:50:21 REORGANIZE SUCCESS! on height: 3479613, new blockchain size: 3479622 06:50:53 Is this the deepest reorg yet? During this Q shenanigans I mean 06:53:20 huh, wanted to go litecoin -> trocador but kraken(where i got ltc) puts a 3 day hold on funds 🙄 Waiting it is... 07:04:54 seems to be 07:13:02 I have an idea on how to fight qubic. Whenever they find 2 blocks in quick succesion they don't publish them and instead keep building on them in secret as long as they are 1 block ahead of the public chain, when the rest of the network gets close to them, they publish their longest chain and cause a reorg. Since they don't controll 51% of the network if the rest of the miners/pool adopted a "first seen chain -1 n blocks" policy, so kept mining on 07:13:03 the first seen chain as long as it's only 1 block shorter then the longest one the qubic strat wouldn't work and all their blocks would be re-orged instead. 07:54:59 I think that could potentially cause other problems 07:58:36 Two different well-connected parts of the network could disagree on what they saw first, creating forks 08:07:05 This policy could be limited only to reorgs longer than 2 blocks, so for 2 blocks found at the same time longest chain always wins and if at any point one of the chains becomes longer by 2 or more blocks it becomes the main chain regardless of when it was seen. 09:36:49 Ah, maybe that would work 09:37:57 But I’m quite ignorant when it comes to details 11:23:00 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/IXjVhXZxMACpoAEAdEJrSbAb 13:29:48 <0​xlimitless:matrix.org> Guys what is the best wallet for monero and swapping coins to anonymize 13:34:36 you want to use monero as a laundry machine? 13:37:05 <0​xlimitless:matrix.org> not laundry machine but I want to stay anonym 13:37:41 Eigenwallet provides atomic swaps 13:38:12 for a monero wallet I use CLI on desktop 13:39:48 I am super happy with feather wallet for desktop 13:40:32 <0​xlimitless:matrix.org> okay thanks. I only have an arm linux system. but binaries exist only for x64 13:40:57 <0​xlimitless:matrix.org> does it run also for arm systems ? 13:41:53 Featherwallet provides Linux arm64 releases 13:42:26 CLI also has arm linux 13:42:36 many people love feather 13:47:21 feather doesn't have swap feature 13:48:00 <0​xlimitless:matrix.org> hmmm cli looks scary :D but i will try 13:49:53 swap site has a swap feature :) 13:50:53 0xLimitless u can use trocador.app on Tor browser 13:50:58 for swapping 13:51:08 and feather wallet as a secure anon wallet 14:22:42 What are the swapping rates with eigenwallet? 14:30:27 Depends on the provider 14:30:47 If u use basicswap, 0-1% for ltc, 1.5+% for xmr 14:59:56 Anything between 1-8% depending on how much demand / offers there are. You’ll always be prompted with the final exchange are before the swap is started. 15:00:15 (I am one of the developers) 15:12:07 Screenshot 2025-08-17 at 17.10.45.png 15:12:08 This is the beste offer at the moment. 15:12:15 best* 15:15:49 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/YgXuHrUNRxwyGboRyiJkaAoA 15:16:41 Minimum amounts are fairly high at the moment. There are also fewer offers than normal due to the Qubic stuff and TradeOgre going down. I think quite a few makers used them for liquidity. 15:18:11 <1​7lifers:matrix.org> did i hear tradeogre? 15:18:26 <1​7lifers:matrix.org> https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/WtJgpTEVzKVEDbrFxDUIziCp 15:18:31 <1​7lifers:matrix.org> (hashvault obvs) 15:20:31 russia? 15:21:05 17lifers please don't forget irc :) 15:21:15 <1​7lifers:matrix.org> hiss >.< 15:21:45 <1​7lifers:matrix.org> ok go here right meow!! https://ibb.co/cSHwTx43 15:22:09 Thx lol 15:23:08 binarybaron is the wallet going to follow MD3? 15:23:18 material design 15:24:49 We're not following a struct Design Spec but we are using the MUI v7 (https://mui.com/material-ui/getting-started/) library. 15:25:11 yeah 15:25:41 I'm not too much of a fan of MD3 to be totally honest but if the UI library goes in that direction, we will probably as well. 15:26:23 im a fan of MD3 :D 15:26:34 but I don't use it on desktop lol 15:26:56 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/JRTFwjRqEfCNJiqCupaYAQUY 15:27:10 this should be monero icon I think? 15:28:52 You can buy Monero with Fiat with https://DFX.swiss/ 15:28:58 That's what that button does. 16:11:51 needs KYC or not？ 16:16:07 Die Registrierung erfolgt grundsätzlich über die Blockchain-Adresse unter Angabe der E-Mail oder Telefonnummer des Kunden. Diese Registrierung gilt als Standard – light KYC (Know-Your-Customer) – und erlaubt dem Kunden den Kauf/Verkauf von Kryptowährungen bis zu einem festgelegten Tageslimit. 16:16:46 Registration is generally carried out via the blockchain address, providing the customer's email or phone number. This registration is considered standard – light KYC (Know-Your-Customer) – and allows the customer to buy/sell cryptocurrencies up to a set daily limit. 16:21:32 I can sell XMR for BTC. Write in messege. Sell for 3% 16:23:24 I can sell XMR for BTC. Write in message. Sell for 3% 16:23:31 I can sell poop for pee, Write in message. Sell for 100% 16:52:40 5/5 Fixju is an incredible seller 16:52:45 would recommend 17:05:22 plowsof: it is usually the opposite: #channel @ IRC network 17:06:03 in the other order maybe like that: IRC network / #channel or IRC network :: #channel 17:06:26 thank you, wasn't sure 17:09:07 now it has a coder scent in it :D 22:48:59 Revuo Monero Issue 245: July 21 - August 17, 2025. https://www.revuo-xmr.com/weekly/issue-245/ 22:59:20 What do yall have to say about an alleged size 9 chain reorg? 23:10:08 Which block ? 23:10:17 Height 23:24:00 elongated: idk but I saw https://redd.it/1msxwbq