00:26:16 ofrnxmr: why did violent_fairy shut up 00:26:22 did he get banned? 00:34:34 Seems they got tired of the conversation ignoring them. They don't appear to have been banned. 00:52:34 Violentfairy got banned, yeah 00:53:03 https://matrix.to/#/!eBgZCVRnRRkKchiYzS:monero.social/$PWjO-OHcAb9utnBk0hY4Fa9kL09iF_UB1bkrOi0kvYY?via=xmr.mx&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social Torir 00:53:29 How did I miss that? 00:53:48 stealthy 00:53:57 i knew it 00:54:05 violent_fairy would never shut up 00:55:01 Violentfairy is kewbit 00:55:52 Fun fact: i have kewbit the nickname "qtip", and the nickname has recently been 51%'d by qubic (ppl are refering to qubic as qtip) 04:56:18 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/midov.pl/d40965eacd9b2f151a2f99ee34b27795233cad311958030300550266880 04:56:24 https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/v1/download/midov.pl/779f544893142716343000c2d2aba0ff0f7db9a81958030325653176320 04:56:27 hi guys, just wondering if this is normal 05:07:26 yes, your monerod daemon is not mining 05:24:55 then why does it say that i'm mining in the Advanced menu? 05:25:12 Also, when I stop and start mining, I can actually hear the difference in my computer fans. 05:25:17 so then what is it doing? 05:41:26 You are mining with a mining program (xmrig). Via p2pool. 05:41:27 P2pool interface with monerod but monerod is **not mining** as you likely use xmrig for that. 05:42:38 [@shaver:midov.pl](https://matrix.to/#/@shaver:midov.pl) monerod is the daemon that allow all your monero related thing to use the monero network. 05:43:24 Fan ramping up is normal while you are mining 05:46:34 oh so i didn't know that there's these separate protocols for mining? 🤔 05:46:38 so basically, I am mining, but with xmrig 05:46:41 That status is just telling me that I am not mining using monerod 05:46:43 correct? 05:47:58 Correct. Different programs for different tasks. While monerod can mine, its not the best for that purpose. 05:49:12 Ok. 05:49:17 Thanks for the explanation 👍️ 05:49:18 Monerod is what connect you to the monero network 05:58:25 GM 13:14:53 is there still work to be done in Monero ? Or is it mostly finished with little space for new contributors ? 13:15:22 Plenty to do. 13:15:44 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues 13:16:20 and that's only the monerod implementation, there're so many other things to do besides it 13:22:12 <1​7lifers:matrix.org> get the whole world to know how monero is the best cryptocurrency 13:25:41 can you suggest some things to do ? I'm a recent CS graduate, I want to contribute to Monero but I don't know where to start. Should I mine ? Should I run Monero Nodes ?  Or maybe make pull requests on Monero Github ? 13:26:15 <1​7lifers:matrix.org> participate in the monero research lab 13:27:13 I am tracking the evolution of hashrate rentals by miningrigrentals since a few days. I created a simple graph, might make it more dynamic later .. https://imgur.com/a/9IHCgeS 13:27:49 racional-poi, start with running a node and do some mining. Then descend deeper down the rabbit hole :D 13:31:48 eddie is it possible to have better y axis labeling? 13:32:00 I've often wondered what would happen if an overwhelming number of people joined the MRL. Would no single proposal gain consensus leading to progress to become stunted (like Bitcoin)? 13:32:21 nioc, next time will fix that, you're right 13:32:47 thx for doing this :) 13:35:12 If Monero were to become extremely popular, what would ensure that proposals regarding changes to the protocol can be decided fairly? 13:35:40 "rough consensus" is a subjective interpretation of the opinion of anyone, but not everyone the same weight 13:35:58 "rough consensus" is a subjective interpretation of the opinion of anyone, but not everyone have the same weight in the discussion 13:36:35 naturally, long standing members opinions value more than newcomers, tho effective arguments/explanations are still considered equally 13:37:38 i.e. if a literal who newcomer say they are against X proposal, not one will care, but if ArticMine says they are against then there is matter to discuss 13:40:56 The end result also has weight. Monero could implement a 50% dev fee and POS, and then nobody would run the hard fork 13:42:17 This is actually something I have always found very attractive in crypto, essentially miners vote by running some version of the node 13:55:39 huh, am i missing something on p2pool working or someone rogue that finds a block can just keep the whole reward to themselves? 13:58:41 You are missing something. If someone mined a block, they can't change the payout transaction without making that block invalid 14:57:22 ofrnAI: can you msg me PM thanks! 16:29:29 ofrnAI: can you msg me PM thanks! 🙃 18:28:41 could a transaction in the txpool be reverted? or it's safe-ish to assume once it's there (for example, as soon as it's shown on merchant mode) it will get commited and confirmed? 18:29:01 just no way to prove it's double spend i guess? 18:36:51 depending on the value of the tx and who sent it I would wait for 1-10 confirmations to feel safe 18:37:25 I heard kraken now waits for 720 confirmations 18:37:36 yeah, 10 confirmations is the *de facto* to be considered done, but waiting 20 minutes would be kinda insane to wait on a shop for example xD 18:38:26 even 2 minutes is kinda long ngl 19:12:53 This is referred to as "0-conf" transactions. There was tons of debate in the Bitcoin community as to whether they're secure back in 2018-ish and prior, look it up and you should find tons. Also see the BCH community for pro-0-conf arguments. Basically the conclusion is that they're sorta secure, though only really trustworthy for lower-value transactions 19:26:46 being that "lower-value" just a matter of risk that I would be willing to take? 21:05:42 Sort of, but also the fact that the complexities of trying to double spend is not really worth it for the benefit, if the value is small enough. Though 0-conf is much safer for in-person transactions than online ones. 21:24:58 Make sense run Monero node pruned on Docker in my laptop? I wanna see p2p connections 21:34:55 you can run the daemon in docker, but if you want to persist the blockchain you mount the database into it 21:35:33 and you will want to persist the chain, otherwise you need to download it again every time you recreate the container .. 21:59:00 Yeah, I'll mount a volumen for persistence, but my questions is if will I be able to see the p2p conections ? 22:22:11 if you do your networking right, yes 22:50:23 Thank you, Eddie