01:23:13 mined me first amount of XMR dust today 01:23:28 it's the first time I mined any crypto currency if I recall correctly 01:24:30 \o/ 01:26:11 * Cindy calls sweep_dust 01:26:19 whoopsies 01:26:35 lol 01:31:39 i wanted to ask a question 01:31:55 does monero have to scan the whole blockchain to view outputs related to a view key? 01:32:27 or if i know what height the wallet was generated at, can i skip like 90% of the chain? 01:36:12 yes, just need the restore height 01:41:19 also how does monero know what block in which tx belongs to the wallet 01:41:32 like when it keeps getting new blocks 01:42:12 when i scan the blockchain for new txs for like view-only 11,000 accounts (for example) 01:42:25 is that gonna be a little too unscalable? :P 01:42:31 it scans every tx and checks it to see if it belongs to the wallet 01:42:36 damn 01:42:47 at the last hard fork, view tags were added 01:43:03 do view tags help? 01:43:22 let me find infographic that explains with zoidberg 01:43:52 like i don't wanna check each tx with 11,000 accounts, every block 01:46:06 oh view tags are 1 byte of the shared secret between the sender and receiver 01:47:11 https://moneroworld.com/viewtag_cartoon.html 01:51:44 how does this scale to multiple accounts 01:52:16 that's the question i've been wondering 01:57:38 does it have to compare that view tag with 11,000 view tags? (or maybe better to do that with a binary tree) 01:58:05 but oh wait, 1 byte == 256 possible values and 11,000 > 256 01:58:21 so there'd be some collision happening too, and slow down the whole process 02:00:28 maybe i shouldn't be scanning a ton of view-only wallets for donations if it's gonna be a massive slowdown and problem for the server 02:01:35 Wdym by "accounts" 02:02:33 Yeah, like the cartoon says, there are collisions 02:02:53 But view tags lessen the amount of scanning 02:05:11 ofrnxmr: accounts are what the daemon calls wallets 02:05:31 Cindy: scanning time does *not* increase with the number of accounts / subaddresses. 10,000x accounts is just as fast as 1 account, it just takes more memory. The view tag is purely a function of the private view key, tx pubkey, and tx local output index. It is not a function of addresses 02:06:13 Cindy: You do not have to scan per-account. Every account has the same private view key. 02:06:24 Accounts are NOT individual wallets, they all share the same private view key and private spend key. Accounts are purely an accounting measure 02:06:53 *every account in your wallet, I mean 02:07:38 okay so 02:07:50 if every accunt shares the same private keys 02:07:57 There is no technical difference between a subaddress in account #0 and a subaddress in account #1 besides that balances are displayed separately and input selection normally only acts over one account at a time 02:08:05 how do you describe an account with different private keys 02:08:49 A different wallet? 02:09:03 oh yeah 02:09:10 when i meant accounts 02:09:12 i meant WALLETS 02:09:19 sorry if the terms are confusing 02:10:23 Yeah if you have 100x wallets you have to sync them individually and it's 100x slower if that's what you're asking 02:10:45 (so you should avoid that situation when possible) 02:10:47 yeah thats what i'm asking :P 02:11:02 for scanning donations, should i really be scanning that much wallets? 02:11:06 or find a way to optimize it 02:11:11 donations to many many users* 02:11:16 No why would you want to do that 02:11:28 lol 02:11:41 for... scanning donations? 02:11:46 lol 02:11:57 Other people's donations? 02:12:02 Cindy: but why use different wallets? Just use different accounts and subaddresses. 02:12:07 yes, they give up their view key 02:12:12 for transparency 02:12:39 blurt4949: should i route donations through a dedicated wallet and create accounts on that? 02:13:15 Cindy: Yes, just use one wallet unless you have a compelling reason not to 02:15:15 Cindy is this just for viewing existing donation addresses ? Or future donation addresses which you are coordinating? 02:15:38 future donation addresses 02:15:42 ideally i'd like to not hold any funds 02:15:51 but still see if there were any new donations 02:17:30 Like kuno? 02:17:46 Kuno uses lws 02:18:01 Still more intensive with more wallets 02:18:41 lws? 02:21:18 what's lws 02:24:31 https://github.com/vtnerd/monero-lws 02:31:37 this is a lot better to handle than standard monero 10:01:20 I opened my wallet after 2 years and it took 6h to sync 💀 10:07:49 Thats actually good if u ask me 10:07:59 Mine took 4 whopping days.... 10:24:25 Damn that's a lot 10:27:21 good internet speed and SSD 10:57:01 Yeah a lot, it really tested my patience. sbt 12:29:19 3 days for the wallet or the daemon/node? 12:29:24 *4 12:30:49 nioc wallet sync (if I'm not mistaken) 12:34:38 I guess I am used to good hardware 12:37:41 the nioc Wallet has fast sync? 12:39:18 view-tags are great https://web.archive.org/web/20220517233315/https://moneroworld.com/viewtag_cartoon.html 13:03:29 Hi everyone, I’m having an issue with my monerod. I’m seeing “Host x.x.x.x blocked” warnings in the log. The node stops syncing at a block height. ports 18080 and 18081 are open in the firewall 13:06:01 Either you're only seeing evil peers, or your chain is borked. 13:06:53 Did you get a power cut or similar recently ? While monerod is supposed to be resistant to such, it does not appear to be so on Windows. 13:07:02 Are you on Windows ? 13:08:01 Yes, I ‘d got a power cut 13:09:44 Make sure your RPC port isn't allowing any random to mine on your machine btw. 13:11:04 Tahnks 14:56:41 Why is this a problem? 14:57:11 Oh I understand, you mean your machine doing the hashing 19:14:03 Reorgs again, any idea which data centres are being used by cubic 19:33:05 e​longated: can i message you? 19:40:14 damn 40% 19:43:47 that guy really doesn't want to give up, it's getting a bit boring in some way 19:44:17 maybe he needs a big hug from a pretty girl or smth 19:45:24 looking for free hype 19:55:06 he already has hype, he is either scamming those miners with his worthless tokens or has a malicious intent 19:55:33 either way he is disrupting monero network and confidence of vendors/exchanges 20:06:46 he's talking about a countermeasure that hasn't even been implemented? 20:06:47 https://xcancel.com/c___f___b/status/1958545729837785580#m 20:07:32 yes 20:07:41 he is just there for the fuding at that point 20:08:03 can't expect anything more from him 20:16:27 Strange nobody has knocked on his doors yet 20:18:09 yeah, hope for him that he have good protection. 20:18:09 Attack XMR, then switch to other coins as he planned... Yet have his face everywhere. 20:18:31 Would be nice if Veridise which get’s paid by the Monero community didn’t spread FUD: https://xcancel.com/aillialink/status/1958570950191984866?s=46 20:29:04 Blacklist them if they don’t retract 20:30:07 There is no attractive cpu coin 20:30:09 ASICS are expensive 20:30:28 Not easy to rent like your unused computing power 20:30:52 But our overlords don’t even want hybrid pos and love their bonnets 20:32:03 Let’s see if the dns trick solves the issue 20:47:18 yeah but as you know that is only a temp fix 20:48:41 aye.. dns is a bit scary 23:23:49 Is there a Monero marketing discussion room? 23:24:03 marketing Monero? 23:24:05 to others? 23:24:09 [#monero-marketing:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/%23monero-marketing:monero.social) 23:26:38 yes a place for the Monero community to coordinate on message to the general public. 23:33:32 we should market towards NSFW creators 23:33:40 i can't join a matrix room obviously 23:33:48 but if someone suggested that, that would be great