01:44:49 https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/coin-wallet-monero-crypto-wallet/31101 01:49:06 wtf is that scamwallet 01:49:53 fee : monero netork + 0.5% whutwhat? 01:50:03 And it know the real spend yay 01:54:04 @syntheticbird: Proton is a interpol honeypot. 01:54:21 What a surprise lol 01:58:53 i tried the program out 01:59:07 it sent 3 requests containing unknown base64-encoded data 01:59:13 once i made a monero wallet 02:03:22 also it sends a "wallet ID" which i think is the seed of the wallet, and a device ID and hash of the 4-digit pin 02:03:43 4-digit btw, it can be easily bruteforcable 02:49:22 @ravfx:xmr.mx: The fee is set server-aide 02:49:52 Weve rejected them for getmonero listing probably 3 times 02:50:22 This last time, they tried to act like they werent scum, snd tried to spin it like i was being unfair 02:51:15 https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/2162#issuecomment-3160400222 02:51:17 the site phones home a little too much for a wallet 02:52:24 its not even a wallet 02:52:30 Its a scam* 02:52:40 You spelled it wrong 02:52:46 also btw, i find it laughable that the only form of protection is a 4-digit PIN 02:53:08 "do u still charge fees?" 02:53:08 "All wallets except GUI and CLI have features that monetize users (buying, selling, swapping, gift card purchases etc.). Since last week buying xmr inside the wallet has become nearly impossible but this option had been available for many years" 02:53:08 that, given a hash (that the script gives to the site servers), can easily be bruteforced with a GPU in 5 minutes 02:53:15 Completely dances around the question 02:53:22 maybe less 02:54:21 who tf uses a 4-digit PIN 02:54:41 "Why leave such a comment without actually checking?" - coinwallet 02:54:41 "Last i checked, ya'll charged fees for withdrawal, so why would deposit $ there?" - ofrn 02:55:14 Cindy: ther arent that many combinations if 4 digits 02:55:20 U sure it woukd take that long? 02:55:34 yeah i'm not sure 02:55:37 it'd probably take like 02:55:39 30 seconds 02:56:44 10000 total combinations 02:58:45 for a "local" wallet 02:58:54 it literally does not let you make a wallet without letting it phone home 03:00:24 Chatgot says it will take a fraction of a second 03:00:37 Cindy: Edge too 😂 03:01:03 For a local wallet, you have to tell it your txid, else it doesnt know abour your balance 03:01:19 holy shit, their webapp is so poorly designed 03:01:34 it cant even phone home to give the servers a pin hash, wallet id or whatever the fuck 03:01:42 And you have to include an output to them everytime you transact - so they always know which outgoing txs are yours AND how much_ since their is a % of yours 03:01:44 because they didn't implement proper CORS policy 03:02:02 Sir, why are you spreading fud 03:02:12 oh i get why 03:02:15 We deserve to be listed in getmonero.org 03:02:16 their servers...... block tor 03:02:20 no joke 03:02:28 i requested the shit myself, and got a 403 forbidden page 03:02:43 YOU SAID YOU SUPPORT TOR!! 03:03:49 "we don’t share the private view key and we have no way of seeing future user transactions (a good point that was brought up earlier)" 03:04:10 "we are the only wallet that supports Monero without any sync (no local or remote node involved)" 03:04:21 i gave it a random tx ID from blocks.p2pool.observer and guess what 03:04:26 IT GAVE THE SERVERS THE TX ID 03:04:49 stop gaslighting! 03:04:49 "we don’t share the private view key and we have no way of seeing future user transactions (a good point that was brought up earlier)" 03:04:50 and then the servers responded back with the transaction details 03:05:52 " Entering a single txid checks one specific transaction, locally." 03:06:00 LOCALLY 03:06:01 locally my ass 03:06:05 HELLO, CANT YOUR READ 03:06:09 NOW LIST PKZ 03:06:13 STOP BEING RACIST 03:06:13 it literally contacted a server to get transaction details lol 03:06:23 L O C A L L Y 03:06:31 We dont know anything about your tx 03:06:34 There is no server 03:06:56 "It runs entirely on the user’s device, with their keys." 03:08:04 gawd 03:08:31 You monero people are irrational and antisemitic 03:08:38 wtf is the base64 data that the program likes to send 03:10:18 defamation, slander! 03:10:40 Just host your own fucking wallet for fucks sake it's not that hard 03:11:01 "coinwallet is a locally, self hosted, serverless wallet 03:11:05 throw it on an encrypted usb drive or something or keep the keyfile there. And put it all in a veracrypt volume 03:11:16 yeah good 03:11:35 please try it before you comment on it 03:11:44 Its the best wallet in the space 03:11:58 Why? Because we steal your money 03:13:11 had me in the first half :3 03:15:11 >tries to buy monero 03:15:16 >"select your country!" 03:15:26 >afghanistan: "There are currently no providers available." 03:15:40 >united states: "There are currently no providers available." 03:15:50 >literally any country: "There are currently no providers available." 03:16:33 buy another crypto and exchange that crypto for monero p2p 03:16:39 that'd be what i do if i had money yet 03:24:33 Buy BTC from atms 03:24:38 trade it for USDT 03:24:45 trade USDT for monero 03:24:59 usually an easy way to bypass most tracking 03:26:19 just remember you need trx or something for gas and don't be an idiot like that 03:30:06 Base64 encryption with Rot13 key derivation 03:30:43 You wish the wallet is even PIN encrypted at best it has the pin saved in clear text as a client side check 03:32:21 lol 03:32:29 and the pin is checked with the server :P 03:54:21 BoBeR182: USDT-XMR pool is very risky. I wouldn't suggest 03:54:52 how so? 03:54:58 can you elaborate? 03:57:39 USDT is a centralized contract 03:58:31 easy to freeze the pool 03:58:35 aka. tightly controlled in order to keep its peg to the USD 03:59:01 has there ever been a case of the pool freezing to prevent a XMR swap from happening? 03:59:06 could blacklist the pool 03:59:22 then I guess I recommend BTC > some non-scamcoin > XMR 04:00:59 there's some swaps doing BTC -> XMR vs 04:18:35 BoBeR182: Btc > xmr 04:18:35 Ltc > xmr 04:18:48 Why would you need a coin in the middle 04:19:31 To hide the fact that you are buying XMR from the blockchain? 04:19:56 @torir:matrix.org: There is no btc to xmr blockchain 04:20:13 Depends on how you buy the XMR. 04:20:15 BTC > LTC > ETH > BTC > ZCASH > DOGE > SCAM > XMR is the only way 04:20:51 @torir:matrix.org: Once you are in xmr, it doesn’t matter 04:22:15 It depends on your threat model. But if your threat model is, "the EU just banned privacy coins and I need to buy XMR anyway", it would be really bad if the government could follow the coins to an exchange and try to compel the exchange to say what its customers bought. 04:22:37 I mean, let me rephrase that. 04:23:39 If a government bans XMR but evidence exists on the blockchain linking your purchase of Bitcoin to some swap service or exchange where you bought Monero, and the government finds that out, they are going to restrict you from buying Bitcoin at the very least, if they don't try to jail you. 04:24:27 .... thinking about it though, most swap services you'll be fine. You can't usually tell on the blockchain what coin was purchased. 04:24:39 It's only a threat if the government can compel the swap service to share information on its customer's trades. 04:27:17 You should always bounce to a phone wallet or two 04:28:04 CASH > EXCHANGE BTC > PHONE BTC > DESKTOP BTC > SWAP XMR > PHONE XMR > DESKTOP XMR > Actual private transactions start here 04:29:29 BoBeR182 don't forget to bounce it through a custodied wallet because companies can are better at you than your own pricacy or something 04:29:49 that's what the exchange is for 04:30:09 Actually nah it should be 04:30:13 there is some aspect to leaving coins on an exchange as a "way" to mix 04:30:32 since your actual coins might end up in the cold storage 04:30:45 so internet tracing by private companies gets stopped 04:30:56 but governments can request via courts 04:30:59 it's a trade off 04:31:07 DESKTOP XMR > Gift Cards > Italian Restraunt front > Gold > Palladium > ZCASH > US Govt Bonds > Euros > Swiss Franks > XMR wallet running on Xbox one processor > (Private transactions start here) 04:38:00 If you are in EU, you have bigger problems than XMR > <@torir:matrix.org> It depends on your threat model. But if your threat model is, "the EU just banned privacy coins and I need to buy XMR anyway", it would be really bad if the government could follow the coins to an exchange and try to compel the exchange to say what its customers bought. 04:38:20 What's the EU gonna do ban PGP :3 04:38:26 Counterargument: 04:41:14 -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- 04:41:16 mDMEaMjqEhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAedN9ICCf1NKSrAZJ/V5dDvY9auI90VB8kz57 04:41:18 W7deAea0JENvbG9uaXpvcjQ4IDxjb2xvbjQ4QHByb3Rvbm1haWwuY29tPoiWBBMW 04:41:20 CgA+FiEEFsdDchfYKpnWVnb64/ebAIP6dH0FAmjI6hICGwMFCQWjmoAFCwkIBwIG 04:41:22 FQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ4/ebAIP6dH2UHgEAuN7Ljda17uwoadfhpAox 04:41:24 NP89Q48nVXFx+O6cPgXHjH4A/i6m7zLt4jXkUJrWX+94zccnyR2sQ9GvvDocgam0 04:41:26 E50IuDgEaMjqEhIKKwYBBAGXVQEFAQEHQPFsXHaeb7T0yBk1FLPtSuMf+Tq1n9VS 04:41:28 MMPHpIeoUx4GAwEIB4h+BBgWCgAmFiEEFsdDchfYKpnWVnb64/ebAIP6dH0FAmjI 04:41:30 6hICGwwFCQWjmoAACgkQ4/ebAIP6dH1QwQD/ffaZcSOWh/iUjcyZkKmI6gmUkWjk 04:41:32 iQp0S4zNFIB0Ma0BAInwQxVAJ+QbZs6SCUKufuuOKiwluP0Ik8nNbQsj8LUG 04:41:34 =wnrf 04:41:36 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----