05:08:50 Has Revuo Monero stopped updating? 05:20:26 Neither xmrwallet . com nor xmrwallet . app resolve for me right now. Maybe they have finally, finally thrown in the towel? That would be nice. 12:42:01 @TheFuzzStone:matrix.org 🖕 12:42:24 mods, we got a situation 12:43:15 🖕 12:44:47 Cin "I use XMR because I'm a pedo" dy 12:45:04 The Fuzz "I'm a propaganda minister for Russia" Stone 12:45:13 what about ofrn 12:45:25 ofrn "scammer" xmr 12:45:34 Why mbll n fuzz get first shots 12:45:36 ofrn "no one uses BSX" xmr 12:45:44 wtf is BSX 12:45:53 is it that snes satellite thing 12:45:53 Cindy: exactly 12:46:23 https://project.satellaview.org/bsx_what.htm 12:46:26 Cindy do you know what THORSwap is? 12:46:26 is this BSX 12:46:30 Bsx = basicswapdex 12:46:30 no 12:46:40 i don't know any *swap 12:46:45 other than retoswap 12:47:10 THORSwap > Reto + BSX + Serai combined 12:47:26 You can buy Zcash 12:47:28 is thorswap's website thorswap.com 12:47:44 You can buy zcash using fiat on thorswap? 12:48:14 what is thorswap's real website 12:48:19 ugh i fucking hate the fake websites 12:48:42 I'm not telling 🖕 12:48:51 cool 12:48:51 Stick with XMR you pedo criminal 12:48:58 lol 12:49:34 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: No you can use BTC, ETH, DAI, BCH, MAYA, DOGE, DASH, TRON, DOT, etc. decentralized 12:50:06 why does matrix always have the worst people on it 12:50:08 So how is it better than reto if you cant use fiat 12:50:16 first we had qubic trolls, and now we got trolls in general lol 12:50:31 Cindy newgen 12:50:32 ofrnxmr: it's other coin-to-coin swap 12:50:35 @monerobullsoldthebottomsmart:matrix.org: By "decentralized", you mean "amazon aws"? 12:50:38 another* 12:50:52 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Reto "run by monerobull the fat redditor scam" swap is a scam 12:50:57 Cindy: I know. Bro said its better than reto, but its not in the same arena 12:52:51 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: And centralized DNS checkpoints is any better? 12:53:00 what 12:53:22 also zcash sucks 12:53:37 It sucks for pedos like yourself 12:53:39 it's more centralized than monero, each transaction has a dev fee 12:53:59 AND it's partial PoS 12:54:04 wow, what a great combo 12:54:18 have fun with developers not only collecting money but also controlling the network 12:54:25 The dev fee is used to fund sustainable development unlike Monero where it has been over 1 month without any solution for mining centralization 😆 12:54:38 Zcash developers mog Monero developers 12:54:46 Monero "developers" are opportunistic scammers 12:55:01 the dev fee is used to gain greater control over the network 12:55:06 this was their plan after they proposed PoS 12:55:09 and also developed it 12:55:16 🖕 12:55:17 so is it really better? 12:55:22 Zcash price proves you wrong 12:55:24 also mining centralization LOOOL 12:55:35 75%+ of blocks is mined by one pool 12:55:39 in zcash 12:56:07 Keep coping pedo Zcash is about to overtake XMR 12:56:11 don't care @monerobullsoldthebottomsmart:matrix.org pick the only one cheese you would eat for the rest of your life 12:56:47 helene please ask an easier question 12:56:48 Bro talks about mining centralization and ignores zcashs 75% pool > <@monerobullsoldthebottomsmart:matrix.org> The dev fee is used to fund sustainable development unlike Monero where it has been over 1 month without any solution for mining centralization 😆 12:57:08 not only is the PoW completely centralized 12:57:13 the PoS is also centralized by the devs 12:57:20 who are making bank off of the fees they pose on transactions 12:57:22 nioc: life is never that easy 12:57:28 people arguing with a troll? 12:58:19 There is no "argument" when one side is filled with pedos and criminals 12:58:22 it does serve a purpose of educating lurkers that are uniformed 12:58:55 @monerobullsoldthebottomsmart:matrix.org: Zcash is full of pedophikes? 12:59:03 i wasnt aware 12:59:12 https://miningpoolstats.stream/zcash 12:59:15 Thanks for the heads up 12:59:25 viabtc takes up 71% 12:59:37 why aren't you calling this mining centralization 12:59:54 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: No it is Monero where people like xenumonero and monerobull use young anime girls as their profile pictures when they are over 30 pedos 13:00:14 i don't have a profile picture :P 13:01:26 i'll take zcash seriously when their security isn't practically abandoned from several issues that it has 13:01:49 At least the Zcash developers are competent. tevador had to go through 3 hypothetical proposals that all failed and he has not come up with a solution. You are paying these "developers" to work on Monero > https://miningpoolstats.stream/zcash 13:02:14 @monerobullsoldthebottomsmart:matrix.org pick a cheese 13:02:29 if they are component, how come they haven't come up with anything to do against the 51% attack 13:02:34 since 2023, when it first began 13:02:35 Would probably pick "american cheese" 13:02:42 PoS 13:02:45 o_0 13:02:50 @monerobullsoldthebottomsmart:matrix.org: that's not a cheese 13:03:01 Cindy: Or whyd they do nothing for years against the low fee spam attack 13:03:06 PoS is just the devs 13:03:18 you might aswell say zcash is centralized under the ECC and devs control 13:03:27 because they get dev fees 13:03:33 and that grows their stake 13:03:42 No one cares about your opinion the market is saying Zcash is better 13:04:07 The market hasnt said a word 13:04:11 the market is full of moonboys 13:04:28 Last time i bought zcash, it was over $200 13:04:41 they could up the price of a utterly shit coin just because it sounds cool 13:04:45 just like DOGE 13:04:48 just like TRUMP 13:04:49 https://x.com/naval/status/1973254136394293708 13:04:52 @monerobullsoldthebottomsmart:matrix.org: Zcash sucks donkeyballs 13:04:55 Bitcoin is insurance against fiat. 13:04:55 ZCash is insurance against Bitcoin. 13:04:55 [... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/g8CX9LoKTGE4T1VL ] 13:05:06 the price says nothing, zcash shill 13:05:06 Monero is never mentioned. I wonder why... 13:05:08 heybhey, this isnt a zcash vs monero fight 13:05:18 all i'm saying is that monero can pick a cheese 13:05:27 This zcash divider is here more than he is on zcash community 13:05:28 if zcash can't pick a cheese then why should i care 13:05:29 I'm not shilling Zcash. Any coin is better than Monero 13:05:31 He's a monero cuck 13:05:47 Youre just mad cuz your wife has a boyfriend 13:05:47 CEXs had to increase the amount of confirmations for zcash transactions 13:05:53 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Monero retards keep invading the Zcash community 13:05:58 I have never bought something with zec, haven't seen a place that accepts it 13:06:00 because of the centralization 13:06:01 @monerobullsoldthebottomsmart:matrix.org: Who? 13:06:04 Like @TheFuzzStone:matrix.org fuck off : 13:06:24 @monerobullsoldthebottomsmart:matrix.org: thefuzzstone doesnt participate here 13:06:28 well thefuzzstone didn't pick a cheese either 13:06:45 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Ok sorry I will take it back to X 13:06:56 lol 13:07:14 troll folded 13:07:51 https://xcancel.com/thefuzzstone/status/1973642228867162255#m 13:07:56 is this why you got pissed off 13:08:18 twitter users are weird 13:09:29 he did not indeed take it back there, and worse he didn't pick acheese 13:10:58 Cindy: He tweeted multiple times 13:11:12 I'm going to DM on X goodbye 13:14:13 what's with the colossal idiocy lately 13:17:45 Its the same person, why are you surprised 13:18:20 as the xmr.se account from earlier, you mean? 13:19:11 Just ignore the low-level nonsense and carry on enjoying the day. 13:19:44 @helene:unredacted.org: Every week 13:19:50 Idk about .se account 13:20:13 why do the monero channel attract those idiots though lol 13:28:44 Fun fact for anyone hating on Zcash for being centralized: Justin Ehrenhofer (also known as sgp_ who moderates Monero rooms, contributes to Monero development, previous VP of Cake Wallet, and more), who previously ran Moonstone Research, a firm that aimed to trace Monero, has now moved on to NAXO, where he is responsible for t [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/5Nnu9LoKMGVULTFV ] 13:28:44 It's important to note that Serai will allow transaction outputs and amounts to be traced because every transaction will be broadcasted by validator nodes. This is all interconnected and Monero is a honey pot. Zcash is objectively better as the developers are honest with their intentions. 13:29:37 Many other Monero core members or volunteer developers have history with intelligence agencies. Do the research. 13:30:25 @zooko:xmr.se: https://www.naxo.com/who-we-are 13:30:59 "And by the way, I think we can successfully make Zcash too traceable for criminals like WannaCry, but still completely private & fungible." --zooko 13:31:41 nioc: Yes, the Zcash developers are honest with their intentions. You have FBI agents who specialize in tracing blockchain transactions working on Monero. Which is worse? 13:32:22 > <@zooko:xmr.se> Fun fact for anyone hating on Zcash for being centralized: Justin Ehrenhofer (also known as sgp_ who moderates Monero rooms, contributes to Monero development, previous VP of Cake Wallet, and more), who previously ran Moonstone Research, a firm that aimed to trace Monero, has now moved on to NAXO, where h [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/u4D89LoKeU1NNThz ] 13:32:22 Sgp does NOT moderate monero rooms 13:32:38 He also does NOT contribute to monero development 13:32:47 you are honest? lol 13:33:02 @ofrnxmr: He works closely with Luke Parker and moderates Serai. 13:33:32 Serai is a different blockchain 13:33:34 @ofrnxmr: https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/147#issuecomment-3360782566 13:33:37 1 hour ago 13:33:50 @zooko:xmr.se: Anyone can comment on github 13:34:49 I won't argue about semantics. 13:35:15 lol 13:35:28 whatever the fuck that means 13:36:15 By your own metric, you also contribute to monero development 13:36:36 Simply by virtue of shitposting 13:36:49 since the dubai videos i have a hard time taking zcash seriously 13:37:12 Monero is a honey pot. I've given a starting point for people to research into in case they didn't know. Zcash isn't without its flaws, including issues related to centralization, and maintains close ties with regulators, but it doesn't pretend to be hardcore like Monero. 13:37:15 this "influencer push" is also sus af 13:38:03 also on a technical level overhyping tachyon is cringe to the max 13:38:10 @ofrnxmr: I don't influence development decisions. 13:38:11 there are only tradeoffs 13:38:34 @zooko:xmr.se: Semantics 13:39:45 they have stolen everything from me 13:39:45 Someone entered my wallet and made a transaction in July. How is this possible? 13:40:34 if monero is a honeypot zcash is a honeypot squared. this argument and framing is so disingenuous 13:40:48 @ofrnxmr: I don't manage the MAGIC Monero Fund. You're being dishonest. 13:40:52 @moner01980:matrix.org: xmrwallet.com is a scam 13:41:10 @zooko:xmr.se: Didnt sgp CREATE that 13:41:24 pp 13:41:40 you act as if its some decentralized community asset 13:41:48 Its not. Its sgp's non-profit 13:41:57 Yes > <@ofrnxmr> Didnt sgp CREATE that 13:42:15 https://monero.observer/jehrenhofer-announces-magic-grants-monero-fund/ 13:42:41 Can anything be done against the person who made this fraudulent transaction? 13:42:57 help me please 13:42:58 @moner01980:matrix.org: no 13:43:15 You used a wallet that is known to be a scam 13:43:46 Your $ is gone 13:45:49 Don't say that. When I opened this wallet, it was recommended from the official Monero website. That's why I trusted it. 13:46:04 zcash spent hundreds of thousands of dollars sucking dick in Washington. maybe sgp is a fed and he tried to cancel me, but I would still prefer him over random outsiders throwing mud. one of us who cares. if the protocol is not secure against moonstone research (still unsure if this was an april fools joke😆) it has to be improved. is this even the real zooko or just a random troll 13:46:54 @moner01980:matrix.org: https://matrix.to/#/#monero-support:monero.social which domain? 13:47:24 @moner01980:matrix.org: Your first mistake was trusting Monero. Use Zcash next time 13:47:35 @moner01980:matrix.org: No you werent. 13:47:45 Getmonero.org has NEVER promoted xmrwallet.com 13:48:16 @spirobel:kernal.eu: Monero is NOT secure right now and is traceable in certain conditions. 13:48:41 Objectively speaking Zcash has better privacy measures. 13:49:42 Dude, I'm not lying. I'm very clumsy, and that's why I couldn't transfer my cryptos to a cold wallet, even though I tried. Too difficult for me, but I swear on my daughters, that wallet was recommended by the official Monero website. I swear. 13:50:55 getmonero.org has NEVER recommended xmrwallet.com 13:51:33 @ofrnxmr: link doesn't work :< 13:53:41 Xmrwallet link? Yeah, the website seems to be offline now 13:54:00 Getmonero.org link should work 13:54:00 getmonero.org/downloads 13:54:57 I wanted to see how good was the scam 13:55:07 never heard of this wallet 13:55:45 https://github.com/SamsungGalaxyPlayer?tab=overview&from=2022-12-01&to=2022-12-31 > <@zooko:xmr.se> https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/147#issuecomment-3360782566 13:56:10 ofrnxmr is lying as usual. 13:56:51 > <@zooko:xmr.se> Fun fact for anyone hating on Zcash for being centralized: Justin Ehrenhofer (also known as sgp_ who moderates Monero rooms, contributes to Monero development, previous VP of Cake Wallet, and more), who previously ran Moonstone Research, a firm that aimed to trace Monero, has now moved on to NAXO, where h [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/jM3V9boKRnlQZnhh ] 13:56:51 If Monero is honeypot please point me to some court case where a monero transaction was traced & was used to convict someone 13:56:58 Metadata does not count 13:57:12 @zooko:xmr.se: objectively speaking zcash is a bad investment that is now being pushed by influencers. you didnt address anything I said. prove that you are really zooko or fuck off 13:57:40 @zooko:xmr.se: lying on what? 13:59:31 did juliu get his friends to flood #monero 13:59:32 Oh, my client doesnt show replys, mb. I frogot matrix was so fragmented 13:59:33 after he got quieted 14:01:13 moner01980: move all your funds to another wallet 14:01:21 consider it compromised 14:02:05 Cindy: the wallet was swept in july 14:02:11 oh 14:02:16 then you're fucked 14:02:36 @testtank:matrix.org: I don't have the case documents on me, but Monero has been traced before. Did you even bother to read my message? See this: 14:02:36 https://www.naxo.com/faqs 14:02:36 Can NAXO help if our case involves privacy cryptocurrencies like Monero? 14:02:36 Yes, NAXO has specialized expertise and proprietary capabilities for investigating transactions involving privacy coins like Monero and other anonymizing technologies. 14:02:38 were you hit by a cryptojacker or something? 14:03:10 @plowsof:matrix.org: @zooko:xmr.se doubt this is the real zooko 14:03:35 zooko⊙xs they are bluffing 14:03:44 Cindy: They used a scam wallet 14:03:47 bring me a court case where they managed to trace a monero transaction 14:03:55 xmr.se home server lol 14:04:03 @spirobel:kernal.eu: The real zooko would have blocked everyone upon arrival 14:04:13 ofrnxmr: scam wallet? 14:04:16 he didnt block me haha 14:04:26 Cindy: xmrwallet.com 14:04:53 he even sent me some zcash but only a super small amount. really stingy 14:05:04 probably needed the money for groceries 14:06:57 "objectively speaking Zcash has better privacy measures" hey come on bow, impersonating both doug and zooko 14:07:16 zcash sucks 14:08:03 regardless of what you believe 14:08:10 the PoW side is centralized 14:08:17 towards viabtc 14:08:23 and the PoS side is centralized towards the devs 14:09:46 You're either naive or stupid. > zooko⊙xs they are bluffing 14:10:04 if naxo says they invented jetpacks that take you to space 14:10:09 do i just automatically believe them? 14:10:20 i wanna see actual court cases 14:10:38