05:10:31 is openmonero.com just as legit as retoswap? 05:12:09 @stsh:xmr.se: No 05:12:20 Both are very different 05:12:44 Didn't get any genuine users feedback about it 05:13:17 Also got hacked a few months ago , and didn't keep the process transparent. 05:14:05 https://kycnot.me/service/openmonero 05:14:52 This review is not updated. 05:14:52 But their marketing is highly suspicious 05:16:24 Wow you potentially saved my friend a good deal of money 05:16:28 The claim to be non-custodial but its all untrue. You are mainly trusting the platform owners with your funds 05:17:31 I thought it was weird no one spoke much ab it compared to the haveno/retoswap stuffs( i still don't know which is what) 05:18:28 Yeah its very easy for someone to fall for it with all the similar naming 05:20:47 I would say just DYOR , as specially in monero community, as there are high incentive for rogue projects to operate under some disguise and portray as genuine projects 05:23:32 Even there was haveno.com , which was until recently owned by a suspicious individual not associated with the official haveno project in any way. 05:24:16 So one could easily be misguided by them into using some scammy haveno software 05:25:05 Though haveno.com is now taken over by the official team and redirects to haveno.exchange 05:26:58 I just need to distinguish between haveno.exchange and retoswap. Seems like they're basically used interchangeably 05:29:44 Haveno is the open source project which does the actual development work 05:31:09 retoswap is the actual network which uses haveno project and is a team of admins and arbitrators 05:31:44 So basically the development team is seperate from the admin running the current haveno instance. 05:35:23 So it's almost doubly decentralized, that's pretty dope 05:36:31 You're a saint kevino! I gotta jet for now tho👋 05:37:14 Its done for legal reasons than for decentralisation 👀 06:04:27 we need a haveno != retoswap tshirt 12:09:05 Hi, I am new here. I would like to ask if there is a good guide on setting up my monero CLI wallet? the one i have been trying to set keeps disappearing after the inputting the exit command and it is never to be found again. Ty for the help 12:36:38 Hello 13:36:35 i used the monero explorer 13:36:46 and i actually found that coinbase transactions have a ring size of 0 13:37:20 but there's only a stealth address so like 13:37:30 how do you prove that a stealth address belongs ot a public address 14:03:42 Coinbase txes have no rings. 14:05:40 nice :P 14:05:49 also like, is there a parser for the tx_extra blob of data? 14:06:07 similar to wireshark 14:08:46 Yes, cn_deserialize.cpp 14:09:01 Only built in debug builds IIRC. 14:09:23 Cindy: Does https://github.com/neptuneresearch/tx-extra-parse help? 14:09:28 Of course it's freeform data so it'll stop when it gets out of sync. 14:09:38 DataHoarder may have some info too 14:10:05 16:05:49 also like, is there a parser for the tx_extra blob of data? 14:10:08 I have go code for that 14:10:21 tbh, check blocks.p2pool.observer source code 14:10:32 I have extracted lighter versions of that (as tx extra blob can be invalid) 14:10:46 15:37:30 how do you prove that a stealth address belongs ot a public address 14:10:55 depends, do you have tx private key, or view keys :) 14:11:48 if tx key, just do the derivation to ephemeral again, if it matches, it's theirs 14:12:10 if view key, you do the derivation then check subaddress map for a valid offset (including main address) 14:12:16 https://git.gammaspectra.live/P2Pool/consensus/src/branch/master/monero/address/wallet.go#L63-L93 14:12:25 see "Match Matches a list of outputs from a transaction" method here 14:13:10 15:36:45 and i actually found that coinbase transactions have a ring size of 0 14:13:15 ring size is set on the inputs 14:13:23 coinbase have no inputs 14:13:31 so yes, 0 is correct :) 14:14:35 this is the tx extra decoder https://git.gammaspectra.live/P2Pool/consensus/src/branch/master/monero/transaction/extra.go 14:15:10 it can fail, as monero one can as well. the blob of data might be garbage 14:15:23 or be affected by a Tari bug that overwrote the pubkey tag bytes :D 14:15:54 and cause monero doesn't save or expose tx key for get_block_template, it is non recoverable without bruteforcing the lost bytes 14:16:21 depending on pool 3-11 bytes of pubkey data were overwritten, usually 7 bytes 14:16:36 plus the type field, which made it fail parsing 14:16:55 rucknium: something that isn't written in postgresql? 14:17:03 DataHoarder: oh that's cool 14:17:20 also wtf 14:17:25 postgress tx extra decoder? 14:17:51 i wanted something that would be like 14:18:15 i dunno, certain bytes being highlighted in different colors 14:18:22 and when you hover over, it tells you what it means 14:18:32 like tag version 14:20:11 if the tx_extra blob ends up being invalid, the invalid bits could be highlighted in red 14:22:15 Cindy: https://p2pool.observer/share/d4cc259b4a9d98d97b86994ee2c573e64cc0fd419e1afa2e218176063c1c7164 14:22:20 I do that for observer blocks :) 14:22:42 usually the relevant parts are nonce and minor bits of merge mining 14:22:54 this is exposed on blocks page https://blocks.p2pool.observer/block/999feb8a26fc62b1e26a4ea6c093f7358eaf1dc61d5028a443ba058855acd952 14:23:04 "⚒️ Merge Mining 1 chain(s)" looks at the merge mining tag 14:23:11 oh 14:23:16 and the values before the pool section are parts of the tx extra nonce 14:23:21 after the* 15:39:12 I really liked this Telegram mini app from LetsExchange focused on Monero, I made some good swaps without KYC: t.me/SwapMonerobot/swap 15:39:27 Cake and SwapMonero, I recommend them since I’ve already used them. 15:40:08 do not use that 15:42:16 Prob scamalert ^ 16:10:22 What's a telegram mini app? 16:20:50 @swapmonero:matrix.org: incredible recommendation of "SwapMonerobot" from someone called "SwapMonero", good job 16:21:15 midipoet: telegram has in-app purchases and bots, and those can show you webviews inside of telegram 16:21:23 it's most likely a scam 16:21:30 like the recent fake reddit posts 16:22:05 "SwapMonero" telling me to use "SwapMonero" after they've claimed to have great success with it would be trying to scam me? no way 16:22:44 midipoet: Telegram Mini Apps are lightweight web-based apps that run inside Telegram. They offer features like bots, services, and tools (e.g., cryptocurrency exchanges) directly in the app, without needing installation. 16:25:03 So it would be possible to have a legit telegram minibot that connects to retoswap/haveno? 16:25:10 no 16:25:25 How come? 16:25:30 because then you're compromising the pros of haveno 16:25:45 Make your own judgment, my friend. I liked the solution. Unfortunately, what we have plenty of are scammers. I support any legitimate project that aims to help the community. 16:27:00 But if it's just a web interface inside telegram, wouldn't it be similar to a website front end, or am I missing something? 16:27:25 haveno is a program 16:27:29 not a website 16:31:34 I thought it was a platform? You can run any sort of front end to talk to the platform, no? 16:44:59 not really because it relies heavily on tor features and such 16:45:15 also telegram may just intercept whatever they wish 16:45:51 you're just relying on whoever owns the account to never, well, get hacked or do anything malicious 17:05:44 The more solutions, the better. 17:08:12 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> https://t.me/durgerkingbot best example ever in their documentation for such bots lmao 17:25:10 Is there gui wallet for fcmp++ stressnet node ? 17:25:17 How do i connect it ? 17:29:08 you can build any wallet using the fcmp repo 17:29:20 Including monero-gui 17:41:14 Binary :( 18:22:13 I dont think there is a binary available 19:05:31 * Cindy points to this channel 19:06:22 hello 19:06:31 any one here ? 19:06:42 u0_a276: ff.io will do that for you 19:07:27 Or you can look at trocador.app to see other swap option for TRX->XMR 19:09:36 i want to break my on chain record someone is 19:09:42 monitoring my activities 19:11:10 you could use a swapper 19:11:13 like ravfx said 19:12:48 The "record" end once you have the XMR, as long as don't get EAE/EABEed 19:15:40 any swapper without risk or flagging or fund lock 19:16:02 With flagging the trx? Good luck 19:16:59 look for an A rated exchange on trocador 19:17:28 i mean it not flagged trx many sweeper flagged during tranaction without any reason 19:18:03 I dont know what that keans 19:18:04 Means 19:18:31 any personal suggestion 22:07:21 Is there a step by step process ti decode output amounts of a transaction using python (pynacl)? I have the outputs keys, the private view key, the recipient subaddress and the tx public key 22:07:55 I also have the monero base58 decoder function 22:12:30 sandbeach123 this? https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/monero-python/blob/3f3a4cdc2a92a088172266d1916fbf2f59c23f2d/monero/transaction/__init__.py#L142 22:18:04 Thanks! 22:20:55 sandbeach123 i'd like to send you other python repos ... coinstudent ... "dumb" something.... my memory fails me atm 22:25:00 it was called "dumbkeccak256" ... by xmrcoinstudent , but clearly i am hallucinating 23:39:14 I will look that too