00:15:57 <DataHoarder> not an one off https://irc.gammaspectra.live/b04abdb3d5ace4f8/image.png
07:58:00 <br-m> <ashven:matrix.org> Is there is start9 OS version of Gupaxx? I really wana migrate my mining node to fully run on optimized Start9 OS
07:58:49 <br-m> <ashven:matrix.org> It would be helpful to have Monero GUI & GUPAXX to run full mining node anyone know if there is packages for that?
08:04:56 <br-m> <ashven:matrix.org> At least as a backend stack(monerod+p2pool+proxy)
08:09:36 <plowsof> make an issue here https://github.com/kn0wmad/monerod-startos 
12:37:11 <br-m> <monerojuana_:matrix.org> @ashven:matrix.org: Would be awesome
14:54:26 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> Can anyone tell that if the fcmp++ and carrot upgrade is going to have any changes at the user end ?
14:54:26 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> Like how users interact with a wallet and create transactions and confirmation times ? ( Apart from how addresses look in carrot)
14:55:15 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> I am guessing users will transact in the exact same way ?
16:51:17 <br-m> <jeffro256> Carrot addresses are computationally indistinguishable from legacy addresses to external observers, so wallet code must interact with them the exact same way. AFAIK, there shouldn't be any end user changes besides performance differences 
16:51:43 <Sindy> what about stuff like the outgoing view key
16:53:34 <br-m> <jeffro256> That goes into effect if you would upgrade to a new Carrot-derived seed / wallet. Hardware wallets may implement hybrid keyed accounts, where you get the benefits of e.g. OVKs without manual user intervention. It remains to be seen which features will be ready by different vendors at launch time.
16:54:28 <br-m> <jeffro256> But yes, if you upgrade to a Carrot keyed wallet, you get the benefits listed in this section of the Carrot spec: https://github.com/jeffro256/carrot/blob/master/carrot.md#22-new-wallets-only
17:00:59 <br-m> <monero.arbo:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/UoTNajekhpoEuSmpbqTJDNNd.png (image.png) > <nioc> ##monero-stressnet on IRC, yes 2 ##  there is a mtraix rooms as well
17:01:06 <br-m> <monero.arbo:matrix.org> still can't find the stressnet channel
17:02:02 <br-m> <monero.arbo:matrix.org> is there actually a matrix channel or is it IRC only?
17:02:13 <moneromoooo> I went there, it's called ##monero-stressnet as mentioned. Note the double # at the start, not a typo.
17:02:42 <br-m> <monero.arbo:matrix.org> Yeah I tried that, with the two hashtags and everything
17:02:42 <moneromoooo> Maybe matrix renames or hides the ones with two # or something.
17:03:04 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> @monero.arbo:matrix.org: Ppl sejd the matrix room twice
17:03:08 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> Sent*
17:03:19 <br-m> <soulexemar:matrix.org> Anyone selling XMR OTC? We can use escrow willing to pay 5%
17:03:24 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> (i'm people)
17:03:28 <Sindy> use multisig
17:03:30 <br-m> <soulexemar:matrix.org> (Size)
17:03:43 <Sindy> don't talk to me unless you use multisig
17:03:59 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> See 1 msg below the one you replied to > <@monero.arbo:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/UoTNajekhpoEuSmpbqTJDNNd.png (image.png)
17:04:16 <br-m> <monero.arbo:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: thanks bruh scrolled right past ur link
17:10:31 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> added stressnet to the monero matrix space thingy 
17:11:07 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> yay
17:11:11 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> i joined before it was added there then
17:11:12 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> :3
17:12:26 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> @soulexemar:matrix.org: tell the rest of the class what options you have considered or used already for monro OTC
17:15:55 <br-m> <absit_invidia33:matrix.org> Hi guys! I have a couple of questions about monero. 
17:15:55 <br-m> <absit_invidia33:matrix.org> I want to obtain monero without my bank or government knowing that I have it. I know I could do a p2p with someone, but I currently don't have Amy crypto whatsoever or cash to use, only a credit card. So, I've came up with two different setups I think might work.
17:15:55 <br-m> <absit_invidia33:matrix.org> Buying XMR directly[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/26eUoLwKQ1FPMFB2 ]
17:16:36 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> mining
17:17:08 <Sindy> retoswap or bisq do not have "credit card" options
17:17:22 <Sindy> it depends on the payment methods that exists in your country
17:17:31 <Sindy> if you have moneygram or western union, that would be good enough
17:18:00 <br-m> <mayhem69:matrix.org> Maybe buy LTC on credit card, then LTC to LTC mweb, then LTC mweb to LTC again and then LTC swap to XMR on BasicSwapDex or RetoSwap
17:18:04 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> doesnt every country have westernunion
17:18:51 <br-m> <mayhem69:matrix.org> Or take out cash from the credit card on ATM and then use that cash on RetoSwap directly?
17:18:53 <Sindy> 17lifers: some countries have nerfed it
17:18:56 <plowsof> can someone qualify for a credit card but not be able to obtain cash?
17:20:09 <plowsof> is the credit card yours?
17:21:01 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> yeah dont steal it thats bad
17:21:02 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> ;-;
17:21:06 <plowsof> or is this begging with more fluff in the beginning 
17:21:08 <Sindy> a bigger question is like
17:21:13 <Sindy> does your country have ATMs
17:21:26 <Sindy> like wtf is a credit card without ATMs around
17:21:30 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> every country has them!
17:21:34 <nioc> They gave me credit cards when I had no money and all my credit cards were maxed out  lol
17:22:02 <plowsof> ok so its is possible !
17:22:32 <nioc> Only with a good credit rating and payment history 
17:22:59 <plowsof> my bank forbid me to have a debit card but i have this shiny credit card please help?
17:24:22 <Sindy> til i learnt that withdrawing cash from a credit card is called..
17:24:25 <Sindy> a cash advance!
17:25:15 <br-m> <mayhem69:matrix.org> And you start paying interest from the day you take the cash out instead of the 30 day grace period when a payment is due + some cards have a cash advance fee
17:25:39 <br-m> <mayhem69:matrix.org> but yeah you can just use and ATM to take out the cash so I'm guessing this person doesnt have access to the physical card
17:25:51 <Sindy> i don't have a bank account tbh
17:26:05 <Sindy> nor any banking or credit history
17:28:16 <plowsof> are you a CIA assassin like Jason Bourne 
17:31:24 <br-m> <mayhem69:matrix.org> Sindy: You can also get a cash advance against your monthly income in some places like US, its another word for a payday loan
17:31:59 <Sindy> lol
17:32:06 <Sindy> with that 2025% APR
17:32:59 <br-m> <mayhem69:matrix.org> hell yeah, get stuck in that debt spiral
17:47:35 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> Thanks Jeffro256 for the explanation 🙏🏻.
17:47:36 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> The fact that legacy and new addresses are indinguishable to externel observor is awesome.
18:07:38 <br-m> <jeffro256> @monero.arbo:matrix.org: #monero-stressnet:monero.social
18:28:14 <br-m> <pw:xmr.mx> Sindy: Drug dealer
18:28:48 <br-m> <pw:xmr.mx> Or perhaps a male or female sex worker, cash only.
18:41:51 <Sindy> pw: nothing wrong with being a sex worker lol
18:41:58 <Sindy> but i'm not either of those
18:45:03 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> @pw:xmr.mx: Why does it have to be male or female? Bigot
18:45:36 <br-m> <malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> there is everything wrong with being a whore
18:46:03 <br-m> <malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> if they were all just killed, the world would be better off
18:46:21 <Sindy> average monero matrix user
18:46:27 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> @malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site: aside from not getting paid, i dont think so
18:46:39 <Sindy> did a sex worker complain about how awful you were at sex or something?
18:47:13 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> If its a sex worker, its not a whore, its a occupation. Whores dont get paid
18:47:20 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> Anyway, offtopic
18:59:40 <br-m> <radar69420:matrix.org> Im getting heaps of Monero reorgs on my miner? is monero okay? is something happening or is this on my side?
19:00:09 <br-m> <radar69420:matrix.org> like 20 of these things in the console
19:00:09 <br-m> <radar69420:matrix.org> "2025-10-06 16:18:30.032	I ###### REORGANIZE on height: 3515747 of 3515747 with cum_difficulty 520143065414650085
19:00:09 <br-m> <radar69420:matrix.org> 2025-10-06 16:18:30.032	I  alternative blockchain size: 2 with cum_difficulty 520143605249836618
19:00:09 <br-m> <radar69420:matrix.org> 20"
19:00:26 <br-m> <mayhem69:matrix.org> Qubic?
19:01:07 <br-m> <radar69420:matrix.org> thats what got me asking. I dont really know how any of that works, but I read an article on reorgs recently. And now im getting lots of these in console
19:02:26 <br-m> <radar69420:matrix.org> id assume its related
19:04:03 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> @radar69420:matrix.org: unfortunate abbreviation
19:04:13 <br-m> <mayhem69:matrix.org> Yeah most likely but I personally couldn't say for sure. This site is helpful in visualizing the reorgs:
19:04:13 <br-m> <mayhem69:matrix.org> https://moneroconsensus.info/
19:04:32 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> @mayhem69:matrix.org: https://blocks.p2pool.observer/
19:04:52 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> @17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh: Bro needs a doctor, not a chatroom
19:05:00 <br-m> <mayhem69:matrix.org> Nice I like this one better
19:05:01 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> sowwie ;-;
19:05:06 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> >.<
19:35:06 <nioc> https://github.com/hbs/MoneroMisc/blob/master/CARROT-discussion.md
19:41:11 <br-m> <stormyyy:tchncs.de> @malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site: same to you.
20:32:51 <sech1> Qubic finally achieved 51%, but not in the way they wanted, lol https://p2pool.io/u/46cc3b0f9d8212d1/image.png 
20:33:06 <Sindy> LOL
20:36:35 <Sindy> qubic got more orphans than an adoption center
22:29:09 <br-m> <kriek:matrix.org> Hi guys do you have any hidden wiki for markets and stuff like that?