00:23:56 Imajin not using tx_extra for malware c&c 00:24:12 Please deprecate that thing. Thanks 00:31:00 Tbh I don’t like the idea of having any arbitrarily mutable/interprable information on the blockchain. Not only does that open up the network to “vanity” bloat, but it also turns the blockchain into an ad hoc decentralized et infinitum cloud storage platform that goes to the highest bidder. 00:32:16 also making it harder for people to host their own nodes 00:32:39 Yeah, or nice malware c&c that can't be taked down. More and more are using solana and eth for that purpose, its just a question of time before people use tx_extra for that purpose 00:33:19 Thats an actual reason for the world admin to try to actually ban the thing 00:33:30 Get rid of tx_extra 00:33:43 Yesterday.... Please 02:33:04 Does anyone know what happened to the getmonero.org website update? When will the UI be updated? 02:56:30 probably closer to fcmp 02:56:58 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Can I track progress anywhere? 02:58:32 @namenet:matrix.org: I’d suggest looking at active branches/forks of the website repo 02:58:58 If there aren’t any…..then it might take longer than fcmp lol 03:11:23 @spirobel:kernal.eu 03:14:44 Delete your zcash gobbledygook 03:16:23 Delete it now 03:18:13 Löschen Sie es jetzt oder tragen Sie die Konsequenzen 03:18:39 Tu nicht so, als hättest du Wissen das du nicht wirklich hast 03:18:56 Arschloch 03:19:04 what about ztrash? 03:19:32 Lösche die Beiträge und wir werden friedlich sein 03:20:05 When people try to get people to delete proof of scam using other language, so funny 03:20:12 @ravfx:xmr.mx: I will not send rubbish information 03:20:33 @ravfx:xmr.mx: @spirobel:kernal.eu is German I speak his language 03:20:53 Ein Stück Scheiße 03:20:57 What he posted broke your pumpa or what? 03:21:56 I know I know, every scam want good exit liquidity 03:21:58 Schließe monerochan.news und wir hören auf 03:23:50 Andernfalls werden wir Ihre website ddos 03:26:59 @spirobel:kernal.eu Hören Sie mir jetzt zu, Sie haben 24 Stunden 03:30:20 @plowsof:matrix.org 03:31:36 @ravfx:xmr.mx: https://monerochan.news/article/17 is pissing off Zcash shills 03:31:58 I mean they are proving spirobel's point... 03:33:17 I see, will read, thanks 03:35:04 @namenet:matrix.org: Tbh yeah 03:35:53 It’s a pretty well written article, pushes the line a lot while still being aware that there is a line; tbh quite rare in the modern era of inflammatory rhetoric 03:36:49 As for their claims of insane scalability….don’t worry on that 03:36:50 I have a “feeling” that Monero is going to become a lot more scalable after FCMP, more than anyone now thinks imaginable. 03:38:54 I just need to get done with my skeleton in the closet and then the real work can begin. 03:43:27 (removed) 03:43:29 (removed) 03:43:30 (removed) 03:43:32 (removed) 03:43:34 (removed) 03:44:15 Cult-like communities built to hype up coins is why I migrated to Monero. When a community shuts out legitimate criticism it's a huge red flag to me. 03:45:38 The first privacy coin I brought was ZEC. It was a long time ago 03:45:38 Then I was looking to withdraw it... and was thinking what the fsck, I can't even withdraw it... 03:45:38 Oh, I have to make a bitcoin-like T address to withdraw it... so what's the point?!? 03:45:38 DUMP 03:45:58 Then I found Monero 03:46:14 Not perfect but also not lying there ass 03:46:29 @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: http://0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg 03:46:34 @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: http://0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg 03:47:00 wtf is happening 03:47:01 @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: http://0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg 03:47:01 @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: http://0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg 03:47:02 😆🫵 03:47:03 @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: http://0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg 03:47:04 ZEC people are crying 03:47:09 FUCK WITH ZCASH U GET SLAUGHTERED 03:47:13 @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: http://0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg 03:47:15 @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: http://0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg 03:47:20 If they could only make it Z-only 03:47:26 that at least would make it useful 03:48:20 @alexanarcho:matrix.alexanarcho.live: https://monerochan.news/article/17 was published. 03:49:18 (removed) 03:49:19 (removed) 03:49:21 (removed) 03:49:23 (removed) 03:49:25 (removed) 03:51:45 (removed) 03:51:46 (removed) 03:51:48 (removed) 03:51:54 I hope Z people would realise that many people would not have seen that post if they did not come to kyakya kya about it right? 03:52:17 The Streisand effect has started. I certainly wouldn't have seen it if they hadn't made a fuss. 03:52:33 @torir:matrix.org: same 03:52:35 yeah, same for me 03:52:43 @alexanarcho:matrix.alexanarcho.live: Same 03:53:03 My thoughts on Zcash: Is Zcash's privacy tech legitimately impressive? Yes, yes it is. But the fact is that the actual utilization of z-addresses is extremely low, and very few people in Zcash openly acknowledge that. They call it private but ignore actual practical issues with the privacy that exist today. It's become just another hypecoin. 03:53:03 I have no loyalty to Monero. I will abandon it for a better coin, but I stay with it because the community is actually intellectually honest. 03:53:16 Too many of Monero’s community writings gets buried in the sands of time 03:53:16 Let’s get this article outside of the community imo 03:53:50 @torir:matrix.org: This. This is why I am still around, despite all the crap I’ve went through in the community 03:55:30 Every other crypto is cool. 03:55:30 Monero is useful. 03:55:30 And more importantly, Monero does not care about the odd almost religious followings of specific crypto attributes. It simply wants to be the best private decentralized currency. Nothing more, nothing less. 04:06:38 @torir:matrix.org: Honestly same. I did not know monerochan.news existed until the shills posted it 04:09:05 Yeah, just bookmarked it too, did not know about monerochan.news 04:23:23 This was clearly an attempt to demoralize spirobel and stop him from completing the Monero browser wallet. It was obvious from the way they were doxxing him, inciting violence, and threatening to DDOS his website 08:26:13 spirobel Delete the post 08:26:14 spirobel Delete the post 08:26:33 spirobel Delete the post 08:26:36 spirobel Delete the post 08:26:57 spirobel Delete the post 08:27:02 spirobel Delete the post 08:40:51 Hi I'm spirobel 08:41:09 I live in Taiwan and I like scamming. I like LYING about Zcash 08:41:10 i somehow doubt that 08:41:39 @plowsof:matrix.org: can we get a ban on bladerunn.in 08:41:42 I am a LIAR and SCAMMER 08:45:44 (removed) 08:45:45 (removed) 08:45:46 (removed) 08:49:44 (removed) 08:49:53 <321bob321> Lock room 08:50:00 (removed) 08:50:22 (removed) 08:52:19 (removed) 08:54:44 (removed) 08:55:46 spirobelthescammer... hmm... who's this now? 08:55:49 spirobel? 08:56:08 (removed) 08:56:21 (removed) 08:56:28 ok, not spirobel. 08:56:38 a nobody troll trolling another troll. 08:56:45 so, a regular day in monero land. 08:59:17 (removed) 09:02:28 plowsof can you hammer this fella for us? 09:02:29 tks. 09:02:49 (removed) 09:04:13 @plowsof:matrix.org 09:04:51 (removed) 09:22:13 (removed) 09:22:46 (removed) 09:22:47 (removed) 09:22:54 (removed) 09:22:58 bruv. 09:23:06 where are the janitors when you need them. 09:23:15 Can someone ban this idiot already? 09:23:18 hey spirobelthescammer, make me a sandwich and stop posting nonsense. 09:23:32 (removed) 09:23:37 double ham, just one slice of yellow cheese. 09:23:41 hi, i'm rotten. 09:23:49 you are getting shown the door in just a few. 09:24:34 (removed) 09:24:43 (removed) 09:24:46 endor00 sgp_ plowsof charuto @diego:cypherstack.com God and the virgins... monerobull? 09:24:53 someone take the trash out, please... 09:25:22 xmrscott Mumuks... 09:25:31 will anyone listen our requests... 09:25:51 (removed) 09:26:06 <321bob321> @banhammer:matrix.org 09:26:14 ,/kickmuteandban spirobelthescammer 09:26:26 <321bob321> Lol 09:26:30 (removed) 09:26:36 (removed) 09:26:42 (removed) 09:26:45 I can actually make you stfu. 09:26:57 Just wait until one of the janitors wakes up. 09:26:59 (removed) 09:27:08 No, I am deleting your entire self from here. 09:27:13 Get a hobby. Knucklehead. 09:27:17 Go rub one off. 09:27:22 (removed) 09:27:27 Delete yourself. 09:27:35 (removed) 09:27:41 I'm lying about ur mum. 09:28:30 (removed) 09:28:30 (removed) 09:28:30 (removed) 09:28:30 (removed) 09:28:31 (removed) 09:28:54 zzz. 09:29:01 ever visited a pr0n site? 09:29:12 maybe a digital free e-learning platform? 09:29:17 (removed) 09:29:21 idk, took a youtube crash course on how to knit beanies? 09:29:26 what post? what we? 09:29:32 (removed) 09:29:36 you are likely 49 and living in your mom's basement. 09:29:44 gtfo. 09:29:49 (removed) 09:29:55 (removed) 09:30:03 lmfao, all of this is because spiro made a bs post in a stupid static site??? 09:30:11 who touched you when you were a kid, my dude? 09:30:20 show me on the doll... 09:30:22 (removed) 09:30:31 smd bro. 09:31:11 Finally jeez 10:39:24 I missed all the fun 11:17:52 How dare you! > lmfao, all of this is because spiro made a bs post in a stupid static site??? 11:17:59 Static sites are not stupid! 11:35:40 bladerunn.in was temp de-deferated from here today. The admin of this home server gives accounts out on an invite only basis, no spamming, nothing illegal. They banned the accounts used today. 11:37:29 de-defederated = re-federated? :D 11:37:44 Lol 11:38:42 Typo but it makes sense, thanks for the save 11:42:19 And what happened before? 12:10:59 Hey guys, I want to start running a local Monero node to contribute to decentralization, but I don't have much experience and technical knowledge. What's the easiest to start with (pruned / localhost)? 12:15:01 I mean, easiest of easiest would be to buy a nodo cuz they plug and play 12:17:59 You mean a public intersection? 12:18:58 I mean moneronodo.com 12:21:27 thanks 12:22:07 am assuming you've already seen these: https://guides.monero.com/docs/tutorials/monero-node/ 12:22:19 and -> https://www.monero.how/how-to-run-monero-node 12:22:43 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> oo 12:22:46 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> shiny little silent box 12:22:58 no clue if either are out of date, but a wizard will clarify if I'm wrong(usually) 12:23:15 They get hot af 17lifes 12:23:27 but yes shiny and smol 12:24:23 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> why does it have a headphone jack 12:24:29 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> so you can listen music while syncing? ._. 12:28:05 wait does it really? 12:28:13 * OftenFaded goes to inspect 12:28:33 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> OftenFaded: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mikuplushfarm.ovh/QkMggyWkPWVLwqxXBBrriePk.png (afbeelding.png) 12:29:48 I'm assuming for blind folks accessibility options 12:30:50 crazy our phones are 'too thin' for 3.5mm but not our nodos 13:20:46 plowsof: Big mistake 13:21:43 What did you think would happen when you messed with Zcash? 13:22:23 192.169.4.20 You're an idiot for exposing your own IP by using it as your username 😆🫵 13:23:36 @eliav:matrix.org: Delete any Monero-related software and get Zcash! 13:24:01 unstoppable private money (zcash) + unstoppable liquidity (near) = unstoppable machinery of freedom 13:27:18 Resources: 13:27:18 https://z.cash/learn/ 13:27:18 https://www.zcashcommunity.com/zcash-education/ 13:27:18 https://zechub.wiki/ 13:30:40 Zcash developers are academics, scientists, entrepreneurs, politicians, lawyers, and highly educated. Monero developers are drug users, scammers, retards, criminals, and lack education. Zcash welcomes anyone with a brain! 13:31:13 oh no. 13:31:15 he is back. 13:31:20 call the janitors all over again! 13:31:37 plowsof diego Mumuks endor00 someone ban this guy! 13:32:43 xmrscott can we please blacklist `bladerunn.in` matrix homeserver via banhammer mjolnir bot, plz? 2nd account that comes in from that synapse... pigeons the angels... 13:33:08 Every second I speak here, at least 1 BTC is being swapped into Zcash. It's happening now because we have robust DEX options available. 13:33:08 Monero users have been waiting for years for this opportunity to arise. It will never happen. Your developers are so stupid, they will never develop any working DEX. Your developers are retards who reveal their own IP addresses in their usernames! 13:33:39 yeah bruv, you are retaliating against the post about the ztrash culture, by causing this ruckus and making multiple alts. 13:33:47 it looks amazing on ztrash!!! 13:33:49 "Big mistake" 😆 13:33:59 you are adding more fuel to the fire, you fucking ass. 13:34:07 go touch some grass already. 13:34:42 reported for doxxing my ip FYI > <@zcash:bladerunn.in> 192.169.4.20 You're an idiot for exposing your own IP by using it as your username 😆🫵 13:35:19 quit reporting m8. 13:35:21 just ban. 13:35:24 smh... 13:35:45 I'm skeptical that this is actually a Zcash supporter. I refuse to believe someone is this dumb. It's probably a troll > it looks amazing on ztrash!!! 13:36:11 namenet we are full of trolls this side of the Mississippi!!! 13:36:23 When it's not a rando nitwit, it's just us trolling each other. 13:36:43 Regular and lovely Tuesday morning in #monero! 13:39:00 dukenukem: Why are there so many? Is it really community members having fun? I've never seen this kind of behavior in any other community in my life. Even 4chan doesn't have this many trolls... 13:54:49 lol 13:55:08 namenet how long ago did you start visiting these lovely Internet places? 13:55:25 ever frequented IRC channels in your life? 13:55:55 dukenukem: I don't know how to use IRC 13:56:45 namenet alright... let's supposed IRC is 4chan, but instead 8chan and on stereoids, with some frenetic monkeys pushing buttons... 13:57:01 there you have the why this feels so strong to you... 13:57:29 I have a lot to learn 13:57:29 and this is libera, don't even go to invite-only, more private IRC networks. 13:57:35 the stuff goes wilder than here. 13:57:37 much wilder. 13:58:10 namenet initially we were all IRC dinosaurs and wannabe dinosaurs, like me. 13:58:21 but then the cool kids dropped that bs federated protocol matrix... 13:59:23 dukenukem: I don't like Matrix 13:59:30 fluffer had an issue somewhere about deciding whether irc-only or matrix-irc mix and match shyte. 13:59:33 I'm switching to IRC 13:59:40 namenet my brother in christ!!!! welcome aboard!!! 13:59:53 you will need this: https://irssi.org/ 14:00:31 go read the docs... install it, connect, fool around... 14:00:38 please, cloak your hostname. 14:00:47 don't be blasting your IP address to everyone. 14:00:49 Why not weechat 14:00:50 right plowsof??? 14:00:52 rightttttttttttttt? 14:00:57 weechat 14:01:05 weechat is coolio too. 14:01:11 I just prefer irssi myself. 14:01:14 to each their own. 14:01:19 I see 14:01:25 there's a gheyer client called Quassel. 14:01:37 https://quassel-irc.org/ 14:01:39 im seeking professional help to get my ip redacted and wiped from this chat (incl logs) 14:01:47 maybe do quassel if you like more UI eye candy. 14:02:02 irssi and weechat is for terminal unshowered clown neckbeards. 14:12:22 meow 14:47:41 quassel is ecosystem-locked, tho right? 14:49:32 anyone know how I get my name to not show twice (or this libera.chat in brackets) in the display name of the bridge? 15:00:02 OftenFaded: Start using matrix /s 15:11:11 @sbt:nope.chat: and do what now? 15:38:36 OftenFaded: because your irc registered user is different from nick it will do that 15:38:58 but there isn't much config you can do, besides feedback (it's the new bridge I'm developing) 16:15:50 maaan, I don't even know how I did this😩 16:17:06 time to hard-reset with much more research and intention, nick and user must match✅ and libera.chat's web client must be avoided✅ 16:17:28 whoops, will keep spam in offtopic, my b 16:31:33 wait, this bridge != offtopic bridge, is it? 16:37:31 it's not, also all possible name identifiers are the same now, what gives? 17:09:57 I'm just starting to set up Monero. What is the "typical" length of time to sync the blockchain for a full node? It's been about three days so far and I have 652K block left to go. 17:14:08 Ryushin: Less than a day normally. 17:14:08 Are you using an hard drive? 17:43:41 br-m: ZFS. At first I ran it on my 30 drive HDD pool, download half in about 10 hours. Then it started crawling. Moved it to my ZFS SSD pool and it really wasn't much faster. Changed the block size from 128K to 16K and that helped. Moved it back to the 30 drive HDD pool this morning. Tuned ZFS a bit more and change monerod to use --db-sync-mode=fast:async:10000. 17:44:16 So it's down to 636K blocks. So it's going. 17:45:02 I was reading that others are seeing upwards of a week when using a single SSD. 17:46:13 single SSD is like a day give or take 17:46:24 HDD is painful 17:47:27 network data handling optimizations are currently being work on 17:47:47 not sure how they will effect IBD 17:51:30 18:31:33 wait, this bridge != offtopic bridge, is it? 17:51:31 18:37:31 it's not, also all possible name identifiers are the same now, what gives? 17:51:33 it is same 17:51:44 Host mask: ~OftenFade@user/tisktisk 17:52:47 nioc: Probably a single HDD would be very painful. Right now with ZFS it's going "okay". But I turned of sync writes and I also have 128GB of ARC cache. So not the typical system. 17:53:18 yeah cache is good :) 17:56:44 when I was using the SSD pool I noticed a huge mount re-writes, so write amplification, so that is why I moved it back to the HDD pool. Probably because ZFS is a Copy on Write (CoW) file system. 17:57:43 RavFX has a nice guide for HDD+ram you may find interesting 17:59:22 br-m: I suppose I could have put the node on a RAM drive until it synced then moved it off after it finished downloading. 18:00:20 HDD performs better with the upcoming FCMP++ upgrade 18:01:07 Better than it did 18:09:14 I made a 200GB RAM drive. I'm rsyncing the blockchain over to it, then I'll have it continue after modyfing the location. I guess I should have done this to start with. 18:21:28 DataHoarder:  as a headsup, I dm'd your matrix acc--I just wanted to show screenshots of the different display-handles I see on matrix-side(which is why I thought different bridges) 19:23:59 there are two bridges, m-relay and the new one (puppets) 19:24:16 note the matrix display info might not replicate to all channels due to matrix issues :D 21:31:17 So I've been watching the read and writes to the RAM tmpfs drive. It's pretty so many re-writes going on. I see why some people were upset about the wearing of their SSD downloading the bloackchain. There is a bootstrap option, but I could not find any information on it. Perhaps it downloads the blockchain.raw file? I read that file was way out of date so I stopped downloading it. 21:32:01 The 260GB RAM drive is working great for this, but not many poeple have that much RAM. 21:33:08 I only have 9K blocks left to go, so when it's done I'll copy it from the RAM drive to a ZFS dataset. 23:15:21 Ryushin: No, the bootstrap option just fwds your rpc requests to a random node