16:14:07 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> hooftly1: o/
16:16:46 <br-m> <reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> i don't know about you but retoswap was quite good working for me, been a while since i've used any usual exchange, how do you swap your fiat if it's not with retoswap now ?
16:19:56 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> @reaster:matrix.reaster.dev: by exchanging with people u meet when walking doggos and shilling the monero to them instead? i mean, same for the weed, just ask people when u go touch grass u know, instead of being a lazy fucks that order that online LOL
16:20:31 <br-m> <reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> @spacekitty69420:matrix.org: haha you find monero people's outside? damm 
16:20:58 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> 4:20pm utc O_O
16:22:06 <br-m> <reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> were i live weed dealers have fidelity cards and can be found easely but monero people.. i'm usually the one speaking about it to others
16:22:51 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> right, that's what i saying, shill it to them and sell the monero to them after then build your own local monero people network type thing, idk lol
16:25:29 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> tho i guess is all about that zcash thing nowadays x)
16:25:44 <br-m> <reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> on twitter yeah maybe
16:26:47 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> right, in meat spaces is more like shiba inu... the amount of people tryna shill the shiba inu to me stg... gratz on finally overtaking it on marketcap after like... idk, 4 years at this point? damn lol
16:26:51 <br-m> <reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> i still pay my stuff in monero, and i must hurry to swap more fiat because the fcmp++ will obviously pump up the price (you know, people..)
16:27:28 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> yea same x)
16:29:06 <br-m> <reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> haha zcash would be nice if they only had shielded address, yeah i would be up to, but governements etc don't mind zcash, they can just say "exchanges can't to shielded swaps, and you need to show us your wallet id, if we see shielded transfer that's illegal" and back in the same spot as every other coins
16:30:04 <br-m> <reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> i really don't like the crypto world really, it was nice in 2015, now theres 165165165+ coins that don't bring anything usefull and just here to be a pump and dump or be a kind of financial placement
16:31:43 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> seems like it was just yesterday that cmc listed only like 15k different cryptocoins, now is like millions, the amount being made everyday is just insane, the whole space completely lost the plot tbh
16:34:37 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: sup hoofty, long time no see! <3
16:35:17 <Sindy> 99% of the crappy coins you see are just ERC-20 tokens
16:35:30 <Sindy> anyone with a pulse can make them
16:35:33 <br-m> <hooftly:matrix.org> @spacekitty69420:matrix.org haha whats up mooncake!
16:36:46 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: chillin, stalked u a bit on reddit here and there ngl, being like, wtf u up to lol, what's that new business thing you looking for people for? like havent checked in a bit but last time did, u posted like was looking people for a business or somethin
16:37:06 <br-m> <reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> @spacekitty69420:matrix.org: yeah, now when you speak about monero to normies, they say "isin't crypto mostly scam?" and you say "yeah mostly but not this one"
16:39:10 <br-m> <hooftly:matrix.org> @reaster:matrix.reaster.dev: creeper lol.  Just building stuffs.  Was trying to "network" a bit but it was le suck.  hope you have been doing good
16:39:27 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> @reaster:matrix.reaster.dev: right or seeing it as "investment", literally had a business food owner telling me that he wont accept the bitcoin/monero cause its an investment, not to accept as a currency smh..
16:39:42 <Sindy> i will scream at people who see monero as an investment
16:39:58 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: hehe :3, yea been doing great, enjoying life, hope things going well for you too <3
16:40:03 <Sindy> THE PRICE GO UPPITY AND DOWN
16:40:11 <Sindy> all the time
16:40:22 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> its very fun if number increases daily
16:40:23 <br-m> <hooftly:matrix.org> Lots of people subscribe to the number go up mentality. Thats not the game being played
16:41:04 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> numbers go up would be nice tho, cause like i saying, botting the videogame is infinitely more profitable than trying to mine the monero...
16:41:19 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> just mine harder
16:41:25 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> :3
16:41:28 <Sindy> if you like "numbers go up"
16:41:33 <Sindy> go play like cookie clickers or something
16:41:51 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> nah, did that already, fuck that, going in the red for electric bill is fine for few years but after awhile just fuck that u know, that's dumb
16:41:53 <br-m> <hooftly:matrix.org> Fair. Mining really is a public service thank your service Miners!
16:42:07 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> ^_^
16:42:10 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> mikuontop on p2pool at your service
16:42:22 <Sindy> i actually wonder if the devs will increase the tail emissions
16:42:24 <br-m> <reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> well it will not go up that mutch, but technically it's still going way up that the national fund that 60% of the people of my country use so.. 💀 > <Sindy> i will scream at people who see monero as an investment
16:42:31 <Sindy> maybe not too much
16:42:34 <br-m> <hooftly:matrix.org> o7
16:44:19 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> increasing tail emission sounds dumb too tbh... market would just react to it with more downward sell pressure type thing too.. and would be back at the exact same spot as we are rn
16:44:57 <br-m> <hooftly:matrix.org> We need PoS /s
16:45:04 <Sindy> no
16:45:06 <br-m> <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> Piece of Shit
16:45:08 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> finality layer yepper x)
16:45:27 <br-m> <hooftly:matrix.org> Hope the /s was clear lol
16:45:32 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> it was :3
16:46:30 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> tho, figured u prob wouldnt mind, u like that web3 thing LOL
16:49:26 <br-m> <reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> @spacekitty69420:matrix.org: web3 is quite usefull in some case, let's say you want to host a malware somewhere that could be easely pulled by one of your scripts, well just host it on etheurem, will never get shutdown lmao
16:49:38 <br-m> <hooftly:matrix.org> I like technology lol. Im not for PoS in general as a consesus model because I don't have 32 ETH for example.  I admire RandomX because it allows anyone to participate. Im not going to shun Web3 though because it uses PoS i believe Dexs and Web3 has its place just like Monero does
16:50:36 <Sindy> PoS is just "rich people getting richer"
16:50:42 <br-m> <hooftly:matrix.org> Decentralized computing has its merits but we dont need to discuss that
16:50:56 <br-m> <hooftly:matrix.org> Sindy: I agree 100%
16:51:25 <Sindy> they could do the same thing with PoW, just that the rich people would have to pay for a shit ton of electricity
16:51:27 <Sindy> and equipment
16:51:35 <Sindy> and maintainence for that equipment
16:51:44 <Sindy> with PoS, they can cut all of that
16:52:42 <br-m> <hooftly:matrix.org> I mean there is botnets. But one could argue that that secures the network lol
16:53:17 <br-m> <spacekitty69420:matrix.org> qubic an example of a botnet that dont really secure the network tho, lucky they just gave up i guess x)
16:53:52 <Sindy> qubic wasted money, their selfish mining actually made them get less rewards
16:54:00 <Sindy> so they resorted to reorgs to hype up their own token
16:54:13 <br-m> <hooftly:matrix.org> gross
16:54:47 <Sindy> the reorgs actually caused the opposite effect
17:22:23 <nioc> https://x.com/MoneroKon/status/1983576553033224588
22:18:20 <yanmaani> Is libera the main IRC network for monero-related discussion still, or did people go somewhere else?
22:51:25 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> Yes
22:51:44 <Sindy_> #monero-pools got moved to rizon after libera staff shut it down
22:51:59 <yanmaani> Sindy_: what happened??
22:52:27 <Sindy_> people being 4chan-tier dicks and also like lack of moderation after several warnings from the staff
22:52:44 <Sindy_> they were forced to kick everyone out and forever seal the channel
22:52:56 <Sindy_> if you try to join it, it'll tell you you are banned
22:54:43 <yanmaani> oh, I see. happens.
22:57:19 <Sindy_> i think the mods are a lot more cautious after that incident
22:57:33 <Sindy_> to stop more monero rooms from being sealed by the staff