02:57:02 GM 06:08:52 any ways to swap XMR to USDT without getting blacklisted usdt? 06:08:52 prefer no-KYC, clean output, any trusted sites or cex? also how to check USDT is safe before accepting? thx 06:58:26 Use a swapper that checks their funds, like fixedfloat 06:59:19 Before accepting? You cant. You can only check after acccepting (unless the sender shares their utxo address with you) 07:06:53 @ofrnxmr: Using atomic swaps you could (though to get xDAI, not USDT) since you know the EOA of the taker and can then check it and decide if you proceed or bail out of the swap. 07:16:17 Whats eoa? 07:19:00 @ofrnxmr: Externally Owned Account 07:51:11 I tried mining monero 09:38:52 @houseandtiger:matrix.org: you could use haveno/retoswap, if you want cash it will be difficult to check, but in bank transfert it would be okay, you've already checked it? 09:39:53 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> @heyadora:matrix.org: aaand what happened after? hardware died? 09:40:27 <321bob321> Smoke came out of it 09:43:09 @17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh: I made 1/1000 cents 09:43:21 But the room got warmer 09:43:33 Winter is coming 09:43:47 So it's not bad as a heater tbh 09:44:00 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> @heyadora:matrix.org: yee 09:44:06 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> support the network and heat your room at once 09:44:15 I just did it for the fun tbh xd 09:44:27 Monero seems to have pretty good tools lol 09:44:38 Too bad it's banned everywhere lol 09:45:09 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> just dont buy it on binance then like youd buy other cryptos 09:45:11 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> its that simple 09:46:00 @17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh: I have coinbase account only xd 09:46:01 But I got locked out of it 09:46:10 Owo 09:46:13 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> ok ok $genericCEXPlatform 09:46:28 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> @heyadora:matrix.org: nyaa~ uwu 09:46:40 Lol 09:46:55 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> x3 09:54:06 yeah i usually only mine on the winter to have a cheaper heater lol > <@heyadora:matrix.org> So it's not bad as a heater tbh 09:54:07 like you could buy xmr on coinbase or binance > <@17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> just dont buy it on binance then like youd buy other cryptos 09:55:08 interesting, I wonder how efficient it is compared to a real heater 09:55:09 Can't you just buy BTC/LTC and then swap from it somewhere? 09:56:13 yeah that's a solution, and then swap on bisq/retoswap/trocador 09:57:14 it's just that you don't face issues with you local tax office if they see that you buy crypto and pouf they disapear in a swap? 09:57:45 The biggest roadblock here is getting any crypto, but since one has an account on coinbase already - what's the problem?.. 10:02:52 jah: 100% 10:03:00 computers are 100% efficient heaters 10:03:13 the issue is getting enough CPU to actually heat your home 10:03:28 a 65W ryzen is not going to do much 10:08:14 no but two Xeon from the stone age, yeah for sure 10:09:04 I see that makes sense! thank you monerobull 10:09:10 200W is not a lot but it's honest heating, can work for a room 10:10:07 @monerobull:matrix.org: false there's some energy that goes into the ethernet/wifi that you loose 🙃 10:11:45 well, the ethernet cable might act as very light heater! /jk 10:12:45 @reaster:matrix.reaster.dev: "it's energy that will be converted into heat by your home router anyway" 🙃🙃 10:13:06 I can't just not pay for heating anyway, so not much point. 10:13:50 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> processing network packets heats up your network card ^_^ 10:13:59 <17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> just download 100 linux isos at once and you'll be fine 10:17:02 My RPi is seeding a dozen of those and there's basically no heat, the only noticeable effect may be the reduction of bandwidth. 10:17:31 ^ Thank you for your service 14:39:29 hooftly1 @hooftly:matrix.org: oh right, i guess you wasnt in the monero-community channel yesterday lol, wanna be satoshi? like actually actually? lemme know when u around, wanna pick up your brain on somethin lol 14:39:58 and i keep doing the ghosting thing... i sowry lol 15:12:44 the mysterious satoshi nakamoto the mind behind proof of work... I wonder whatever happened to that guy... 15:13:06 or maybe it was more than one person and a fake name they came up with for the whitepaper 15:13:23 hmm idk 15:13:54 not sure why everyone worships satoshi like he's a god or something though heh 15:14:22 You don't strike me as the type that actually wants that or would want that 15:14:29 :) 15:15:51 jtrag: i just doing a little trolling, dont look too much into it lol 15:16:09 oh lol kk 15:16:12 <3 15:18:46 Havent you heard Satoshi is the CIA @spacekitty69420:matrix.org 15:19:26 lol true x) 15:20:21 Yeah I heard they used someone's brain to solve the byzantine generals problem and make their surveillance tool work. Good ol project stargate and G.A.T.E. marked people, CIA uses them without them knowing. I believe it. It isn't too far fetched to believe imo 15:21:32 CIA already had it planned, were balls deep into trying to get it to work or those that were trying to and their communities. But they knew a certain someone might be able to make it work so the brought it to him in a way that he had no idea it was all set-up. 15:22:23 Honestly I dont trust the CIA with being able to muster the Comp Sci talent to pull anything like that off. destabilize countries and assisinate leaders? 100% There is far more capable agencies working on stuff haha 15:22:30 Tracking kids with certain abilities and using their brains later in life is actually smart af. CIA surprises the hell out of me with some of the stuff they actually do/pull off. 15:22:54 too much tinfoil up in here icant LOL 15:22:56 Well no, they used someone's brain to solve the byzantine generals problem 15:23:03 i just talking about p2p digital cash x) 15:23:13 that is actually used as that 15:23:16 not just by the criminals 15:23:27 Hahahahaah you open the rabbit hole dude 15:23:33 sowry x) 15:23:42 yeah no matter what has value, criminals will use it to exchange for crime related shit 15:23:59 anything of any value could be considered the same way 15:24:26 jtrag: right, the problem with monero tho, is that it wasnt able to onboard the legit p2p markets, including one that has been here for way longer than bitcoin 15:24:48 bater economy == best economy but unfortuately does not scale 15:24:54 why is that though? 15:25:23 what legal grounds ? I haven't researched all of this stuff tbh I'm somewhat of a n00b still with a LOT of stuff in crypto lol 15:25:38 Too many people. We gravitate towards the best which would overwork that "best" and force them to industrialize 15:25:38 it is fked up that no exchanges will even touch it 15:25:50 you should have a right to privately transact if you wish to do so 15:25:52 Its not about legality 15:25:54 you can do it with cash 15:26:04 so why not digital currencies too? 15:26:08 don't make sense 15:26:08 Im not talking about thay 15:26:11 oh 15:26:24 centralized exchanges are criminals anyways, fuck them, they shouldnt have hijacked the space in the first place imo > it is fked up that no exchanges will even touch it 15:26:34 sorry I guess I'm confused what you're getting at here 15:26:49 Is there another room that is better to discuss issues with the latest Monero GUI Wallet download and install? 15:27:03 I did notice monero isn't on any major exchanges though, and people should use it a lot idk why it's not on all of them hehe 15:27:26 @spacekitty69420:matrix.org: I agree but they are a product that fits a need that DEXs can serve currently with the UX that exists 15:27:32 decentralized pretty well and I love the fact that it is still CPU maybe to become GPU but no more than that so everyone can run it 15:27:43 Normies crave protection even if its theater 15:27:51 yeah 15:28:20 prancing389@matrix: what's the issue? 15:28:30 @prancing389:matrix.org: #monero-gui:monero.social 15:28:32 for bitcoin there was bisq, it didnt get the adoption it needed to prevent the hijacking at a bigger scales from entities like binance, coinbase or whatever, in monero now there is haveno (retoswap & dawnswap), too many people working on monero are centralized exchanges shills tho... that's very unfortunate 15:28:54 I'm in the middle of writing an amazon kindle direct publishing ebook but I'll try to help if I can lol 15:29:15 Bisq has a arbitrator system which I dislike 15:29:54 hmm 15:30:07 @hooftly:matrix.org: any videogame you been playing lately? i remember u used to play that space thing, the one that was super overhyped and then flopped, blanking on the name rn lol 15:30:51 jtrag: I download the tarball, extract to Applications folder, where all my other appimages are, and there's no monero-wallet-gui executable and the readme does not have clear direction on the new install process. 15:31:21 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/GpWeDIHKDNtbvWONdcsTxOXG (I am a creature of habit lol) 15:31:36 tf is this LOL 15:31:46 some kind of pokemon? 15:31:49 digimon? wut? 15:32:06 or no man's sky still 15:32:08 No Mans Sky that game that flopped 10 years ago haha. 15:32:17 ooooh! right x) 15:32:52 Is there another room that is better to discuss issues with the latest Monero GUI Wallet download and install? <<>> there is monero-support and monero-gui rooms 15:33:03 The funny part is I had not picked up a game in a very long time. just started a new game 15:33:07 support might be better 15:33:47 here you will presently hey lost in people's rabbit holes lol 15:33:54 *get lost 15:34:09 Sorry! 15:35:31 has anyone bought Monero from a non KYC exchange recently? If so, which exchange? 15:36:02 I'm trying to buy my first monero coin/s and boy oh boy, it's not easy :| 15:36:08 @hooftly:matrix.org: does your DMs work? am down to keep spamming the channel but it might be alot lol 15:36:10 basicswap? 15:39:30 lol doesn't the github repo have clear instructions to install the wallet and run it with a gui? 15:39:45 it's probably a simple command like ./monero --gui 15:39:53 nah mean 15:40:10 lol idk I've never used it really. Downloaded a couple of times messed with it but that's about it 15:40:15 Convo moved to #monero-gui:monero.social and issue solved > lol doesn't the github repo have clear instructions to install the wallet and run it with a gui? 15:40:31 jtrag: The wrong package was downloaded (cli instead of gui) 15:40:36 Linux executable files don't have .exe at the end etc 15:40:53 oh I see 15:40:59 wrong package would do it too hehe 15:41:00 noice 16:00:35 Linux executables can have any extension 16:00:48 Classic a.out :) 16:01:29 If it can't do elf stuff it may look at bang at the start 16:01:29 Or assume shell 16:22:32 sup 18:14:52 ax562: I used to use Zcoin (a Japanese exchange) → Tradeogre, but then Zcoin banned my account for sending Litecoin to Tradeogre, and now I'm in the position where I can't buy crypto at all. 18:15:21 huh, how does that work 18:15:34 what if you send it to a random ltc wallet that 1 minute later sends to the ogre 18:16:05 All Japanese exchanges are run by out of touch boomers who don't understand you want to keep crypto in a desktop wallet, and all western exchanges blanket ban any Japanese or Japan resident customers for some reason. 18:16:45 yanmaani: The question would be, is it worth to pay transaction costs twice? 18:17:42 At one point I found a way around it, and it involved a VPN to Singapore, a PayPal account, and Kraken. But now Kraken doesn't allow Japanese PayPal accounts anymore. 18:23:05 There aren't even any Haveno/Bisq offers? 19:10:46 remiliascarlet: yes 19:10:58 you can buy something like ltc 19:11:09 and usually ltc->xmr is very cheap 19:11:23 ogre was what, 1%? less? dont remember but LOW 19:13:04 0.2 19:16:49 initially 0.2 but the last trade took 100% 19:21:12 If you mean the initial deposit - first, there is a mode without that requirement, second - is there no crypto at all left from previous use? 19:22:07 Also this deposit is more than any purchase I ever made lol 19:40:40 plowsof: you gotta hand it to them for not exit scamming 19:40:42 100% respect 19:52:41 Plot twist: it was always operated by the rcmp, and was exit scammed 19:53:27 It was the dude from quadriga cx 19:59:18 Tradeogre? 20:28:49 hoofty be like: "dont make me do stuff" 20:28:50 https://media1.tenor.com/m/6uPXAvYxkNwAAAAC/the-simpsons-homer-simpson.gif 20:28:50 then goes back to irc x) 23:43:28 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/mbiqXprAyMdIFzwjziIoHsSz.png (Screenshot_20251016-123209.png) 23:50:11 @privacyx:matrix.org: Why are you posting that? 23:51:56 @ravfx:xmr.mx: probably to hack people in the chatroom, like the invisible pixel attack thing O_O 23:52:15 :tinfoil: