00:14:49 Let's try this again. Has anyone bought Monero from a non KYC exchange recently? If so, which exchange? I'm trying to buy my first monero coin/s and boy oh boy, it's not easy :| 00:23:20 It's not easy, true 00:25:27 i buy btc, or ltc, semi kyc 00:25:38 then swap it to xmr, 00:26:28 @eddie:oblak.be: nothing of any authentic value ever is tho 00:27:34 ax562: what all have you already tried? 00:27:46 true that. So how can I buy monero? 00:28:06 more than one way to pet cat 00:28:23 I got my monero-gui wallet setup and tried mexc but it was talking about taking a picture of my face from all angles 00:28:57 and it seemed like it would not let me even purchase monero directly with a debit card 00:29:41 why start there? why not do a little digging on getmonero.org ? 00:30:44 I found the link in the topic banner btw 00:30:56 not trying to scam ya mexc style 00:32:33 I already have. there is quite a long list of exchanges I've never heard of or used before. 00:32:48 btw f discord 00:32:58 did you see mexc there? I didn't 00:33:22 I'm tryna figure out how you've already seen good places to start, but you didn't start with any of them 00:33:28 explain 00:35:48 I tried mexc before I found this -> https://monerica.com/exchanges 00:36:19 now back to my first question ... Has anyone bought Monero from a non KYC exchange recently? If so, which exchange? 00:38:33 you didn't really address my inquiries, so I can't believe you're earnestly seeking help 00:38:51 best of luck–hope you don't lose too much in your pursuits 00:39:50 bruh, you are a jerk. 00:40:51 "Be excellent to each other and welcoming to newcomers" way to be excellent and welcoming 00:44:15 any non-douchers have any input of where I can buy some monero? 00:44:37 ax562 https://kycnot.me/?categories=exchange 00:45:21 aight, just joining again just to shittalk real quick i guess.. 00:45:21 how much of a shit job those monero people been doing if still to this day people are joining and asking "where to buy the monero" and mentioning trying MEXC which is a known bad actor that did actual price suppression while working with Qubic... 00:45:21 just fuck that tbh... even tho haveno is now up and running for more than a whole fucking year[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/it7kicQKNnJCeTB2 ] 00:47:08 mmm, I can't really say anyone is doing a shit job but man, it's not easy buying monero 00:47:39 I've tried a few of the sites on monerica.com and nothing has worked 00:49:03 I hope you find what you're looking for ax562 :D 00:49:41 yatta the mirror is calling you, you might want to take a good look :) 00:50:02 idk what this means 00:50:41 exactly, you have issues 00:51:37 @ocean have you tried any of those exchanges? 00:51:55 I'm trying to improve. if anyone has insight please advise 😔 00:52:20 stop being an f-tard for one. 00:52:47 I was looking at bisq but they want me to install and give them .01 bitcoin, lol 00:54:08 more than one way to pet cat 00:54:42 Where did you get this expression? 00:54:59 i thought you said it actually XD 00:55:38 I have, just wondering if someone got there independently :) 00:56:46 no, I've lurked here for like way too long. But I learn more here than many other places 00:58:31 there is a bisq "clone" that is based on monero, retoswap 00:58:45 ax562: ^^ 00:59:49 can be a bit confusing, the irc channel is #haveno as it is based on the haveno software 00:59:58 history of things and all 01:08:25 nioc have you used retoswap before 01:09:27 no 01:09:47 but many people have 01:10:10 the have a FAQ on their website 01:10:20 *they have 01:10:49 nioc -> https://openmonero.com/knowledge/haveno-retoswap-smells-like-a-honeypot 01:10:59 no no 01:11:15 openmonero is the honeypot lol 01:20:09 nioc what exchange/s have you used to purchase monero? 01:22:42 retoswap has a 1/100 and 10/100 in scam scores, pretty sad I guess. 01:23:51 no idea where you got a scam score 01:24:20 I operate under the assumption that all reviews are fake 01:24:46 Could be but 3 scam sites give it extremely low scores 01:24:57 nioc have you purchased monero before? If so how? 01:25:04 what is the score of those sites? 01:25:24 lol good question 01:25:37 should be the first question 01:25:38 have you purchased monero? 01:26:05 what is the source of the info 01:26:26 me, I lost all my monero in a tragic boating accident 01:27:04 wow 01:27:23 a very old meme :) 01:27:41 nioc are you the owner of retoswap :p 01:27:48 no 01:27:57 I own nothing, Cat owns me 01:28:03 ax562: just checked the trust score for the official monero website (getmonero dot org) and its a shit score as well lol, if you're worried about retoswap, just look for it on reddit and the actual monero community reviewing it instead of random bullshit websites like the "fact checkers" bullshits lmao 01:29:26 there is a 2nd haveno network as well btw: https://dawnswap.com but it's newer than retoswap so for now it doesnt have the high praises retoswap has from the monero community 01:30:09 this chat glows, good thinking nioc being like "nah i dont use nothing lol" 01:31:51 so much sus but the whole world is sus...so... 01:33:53 lol, paypal and ca$happ..it gets better 01:35:32 yall is https://meowdice.com legit?? 01:35:37 I should have solved this sooner, but I'm grateful for the trial and lesson (that I hopefully learned for real this time) 01:38:33 yatta mirror 01:39:45 ax562: do you have any other crypto? 01:39:54 I do. 01:40:46 swap for monero 01:42:14 where and how, I'm a complete n00b to crypto 01:42:57 trocador.app, use at your own risk, start with small amounts 01:45:39 Why is this so difficult? 01:46:32 maybe it's you 01:47:15 nah man, I'm a scientist. Just don't have experience with crypto. Other crypto was way easy compared to this. 01:48:15 do you buy groceries? It's like that, except your other crypto is your $$$ and monero is the groceries 01:48:32 oh and trocador.app is the grocery store 01:48:48 have you used trocador.app before? 01:49:48 Usually the grocery store is on the corner with a big sign. This, I had to go into an alley and deal with a douch and then finally someone pointed me to a shack in the other alley to buy my groceries. 01:50:01 so yeah.lol 01:51:26 and then you still didn't buy the groceries for some reason 01:52:04 why is that? 01:52:08 I'm there right now, but they don't sell monero directly but other crypto? 01:52:16 seriously? 01:53:46 you mean do they swap for fiat? 01:53:48 yanmaani: In that case, instead of exchanging on Tradeogre, you'd be better off buying LTC, and then use ChangeNOW to convert to XMR and send it to your wallet right away. Saves up that 2% you would have otherwise spent on Tradeogre. 01:54:07 Just don't have experience with crypto. Other crypto was way easy compared to this. <<>> no experience yet has experience smh 01:54:41 tradeogre was shut down 01:54:42 smh = SoMetHing? 01:55:15 surely you must know 01:55:31 nioc thanks 01:57:45 * nioc sniffs and smells something 02:00:01 ok, 2 douchers now 02:01:58 Is the monero community usually this cool? 02:04:28 you have been given all the info you need, time to do something 02:06:21 Cat is waiting, gn 02:09:08 ax562: Yes, one of the few cool IRC channels on Libera I would argue. 02:09:53 well, I've been here a very short time and had to ignore 2 lames already :| 02:10:25 Then I don't think you'll enjoy it here, just to be honest. 02:11:58 well, then it's not really a cool place 02:12:30 It is, just not to your liking. 02:13:32 do you like being insulted? 02:15:12 Because you're about to drop another one? 02:15:58 And this is just a wall of text anyway, why the fuck should I get mad at that? That's just cringe. 02:16:56 I'm not mad, it's just sad how douchey people can be to someone with little experience 02:17:29 "Because you're about to drop another one?" drop what? 02:19:47 I am reading your conversations, and to be honest, you're the one acting "douchey", not yatta or whoever the other person is you blocked. 02:20:03 "drop what?" An insult. 02:20:17 whatever man 02:20:37 Thank you for this, I was feeling pretty bad honestly 😞 02:24:08 @rosysagefame:envs.net: 😭 no one answered 02:26:28 in all fairness, mexc is the exchange listed as number 1 on coinmarketcap for actually MONTHS now when clicking on Monero, despite not being popular at all 02:26:28 (for context, coinmarketcap was bought by binance few years ago and binance actively did shady practices on monero for years through fractional reserve and price suppression before finally delisting it last year) 02:26:28 so alot of people in the monero community do have some kind of ptsd from binance and now mexc 02:28:26 ax562: but yeah, u been giving all the resources needed, retoswap is the go to now for newcomers and pretty much anyone that actually cares about monero 02:28:58 the only thing about retoswap is it looks like they do not except debit card 02:29:16 right, it's peer to peer so no debit card 02:29:25 but can do bank transfers or cash by mail 02:29:37 @spacekitty69420:matrix.org why do you keep leaving? 🤔 02:29:38 hmmm 02:29:50 @ocean:nope.chat: idk, why not lol 02:29:51 @spacekitty69420:matrix.org: have you tried cash by mail before? 02:30:09 oh, no. not going to ever try that. 02:30:22 Maybe for grandma on her birthday but not for crypto lol 02:30:38 a popular way to send cash by mail (which is totally legal, even if sometimes it feels like it aint lmao), is to vacuum seal it, then wrap in a sheet of foil and to the post office in a pretty envelope 02:30:38 for example rn on amazon for $34.99, there is that vacuum sealer: 02:30:38 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08F72TY67/ 02:30:38 and the bags for it:[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/6a3mjMQKblJDeEND ] 02:30:39 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T756g8OyXM4 02:30:46 Looks like kraken does except debit and sell monero. 02:31:22 lol 02:31:27 kraken in the US, they delisted it for the rest of the world, but if it works for you then sure 02:31:34 @spacekitty69420:matrix.org: HEY if my grandma can do it for christmas then i can do it for this 02:31:34 this is too funny 02:32:05 spacekitty6920 and whoever has been positive thanks for that! 02:32:48 hehe cheers lol 02:32:50 I mean, I might be able to do the bank transfer. I do not see why not but why so difficult? 02:34:40 that's the peer to peer downsides, its a process that's a bit more involved for the users 02:34:40 but all things considered, still less a hassle than going through the whole KYC shenanigans 02:34:48 pleaseee is meowdice legit 🥺 02:35:04 but when you get that first trade going, it's always the first step that's the hardest then after it goes pretty smoothly tbh 02:35:20 @rosysagefame:envs.net: i literally dont know lol 02:35:36 i keep checking back to see myself roys 02:35:47 @spacekitty69420:matrix.org: ok ill try with a tiny amount then and tell u if i get a payout upon winning 😭 02:36:53 i only tried monerovegas which worked great but i wouldnt promote gambling, like, it worked but gambling can ruin lives 02:37:22 well this site has very low limits so it is unlikely to ruin any lives at least bwahah 02:37:49 max is literally 0.002 XMR apparently 02:37:55 per bet 02:38:10 that's how u start a habit tho, a little of the drug then more often of the drugs u know x) 02:38:21 i do like drugs ... 02:38:22 yumyum 02:38:25 :P 02:38:31 coffee is guud 02:38:41 i havent had meow 02:41:48 well, I have a start now finally, kraken, retoswap and trocador.app 02:41:59 It only took a couple of days :| 02:42:35 but thanks y'all :) 02:42:42 trocador is also integrated directly within the cakewallet app btw so can also use it directly from there as well 02:43:24 I got the monero-gui desktop app 02:43:48 going to make some steak sliders real quick :p 02:45:12 cheers :3 02:45:23 MEOW 03:29:25 RIP MONERO 03:32:25 the snowden coin won, get rekt monero LOL 03:33:52 literally git gud, l2p, mofos cant competitive cryptocoin lmao 03:35:27 leave and come to zcash > <@spacekitty69420:matrix.org> idk, why not lol 03:36:08 you can trade xmr -> zcash on trocador > <@spacekitty69420:matrix.org> trocador is also integrated directly within the cakewallet app btw so can also use it directly from there as well 03:36:14 nah, premined garbage, asic centralized, backdoored cringe shits x) 03:36:20 @thefuzzstone:electrologic.org: still getting paid $0.01 per post? 03:36:26 monero is dead. no one contributes to monero because most of the developers moved on to zcash. the remaining developers use the ccs to their advantage to rake in money by purposefully delaying features. without a for-profit motive company like ecc, no one has the incentive to build monero quickly and with quality. zcash has of [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/lqjXjsQKZkNuYXA1 ] 03:36:27 it a psyop, i enjoying the popcorn of monero getting rekt tho lmao 03:36:43 @spacekitty69420:matrix.org: i like cats 03:36:55 blep 03:37:17 the inadequate moderation of these rooms represents the state of monero. slow and dying 03:38:21 ikr, if only there was a way to have a trustless setup to hire moderation team that would be payed through a trustless setup for their moderation work, oh gosh, if only... LOL 03:38:35 you guys don't know how monero works. you're just plebs. I used to be a developer in 2021 03:38:58 yea idk nothing about that techy shit, i just play the videogames tbh 03:39:13 yay 03:39:32 video gams are fun 03:39:42 vewy :3 03:39:49 prrrrrrr :3 03:39:58 Yeah if u love a for-profit company u can buy microsoft or tencent stocks 03:40:05 monerowo 03:40:24 😹 03:41:01 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/envs.net/fbf07341d1c72873bdb91f7d5d30c74d3a016bcd1984103273769992192.webp (4ckc7qcuaehb1.webp) 03:41:08 waaa 03:41:10 @dufebo98: or monero too tbh, kinda for profit ccs LOL 03:41:28 if anyone reading this has xmr, swap to zcash immediately. fcmp++ will never be released. the technical debt is so large that the current maintainers, jberman and jeffro, can't fix it. they need to rely on external developers who moved on to zcash. the big ccs donors are driving the price of zcash up as they swap out their xmr. xmr has served its purpose, zcash is the future 03:42:33 @thefuzzstone:electrologic.org: why buy zcash now when it was so obvious that it was about to bounce back at some point in time when it went down to $30 03:42:33 buy the dips, not the bumps, u new the crypto or what? 03:42:43 not the pumps* 03:43:06 insider info: zcash will remove transparent addresses soon, which is part of the reason it's pumping. monero is useless 03:43:30 oooh like pirate chain? :O 03:43:30 i think they didnt have transparent addresses there 03:43:38 how will they handle the exchanges delistings tho? 03:43:58 because so far monero has the track record of handling all the delistings, the network attacks and shits 03:44:04 how would zcash handle that tho? 03:46:38 don't follow mrl. i'm talking to the players - you know who you are. zcash has no backdoor with orchard. we also have payment processors that work and a dex to swap on. don't get left behind. this is my last warning. dm with the pgp public key i hid in one of the previous chats, and i'll show even more bullish proof. don't listen to the clueless neckbeards. monero завершена 03:46:57 @spacekitty69420:matrix.org: don't expect this 'person' to give any real answers 😭 03:47:43 @thefuzzstone:electrologic.org: dex as in cash by mail are working too? 03:47:43 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T756g8OyXM4 03:48:02 @spacekitty69420:matrix.org: i think maybe they meant CEX? 03:48:18 this shill is getting paid too much 03:49:04 i mean, am down to get paid to shill some shits too @thefuzzstone:electrologic.org how much u offering? 03:49:05 YO SAME 03:49:12 pay me in XMR though 03:49:20 x) 03:52:33 @thefuzzstone:electrologic.org: DM'd 03:55:53 I'm 888tNk.... +**.0089 03:56:13 Remember me? Show me and I'll follow 03:58:20 @inuecont:matrix.org: bruh, are u that spoopy hacker mofo over there? :O 03:58:20 https://youtube.com/watch?v=MUYjiETdVWQ 03:58:20 literally u got those matching numbers, that's crazy! like actual craziness O_O 03:58:56 yes you will thank me soon 03:59:43 @thefuzzstone:electrologic.org: well, u doing a shit job at trolling rn... so cant thank you for the laughs just yet, just be better at trolling, am bored 04:02:09 like, where those ascii dick art things spam and shits, like... @thefuzzstone:electrologic.org u not entertaining at all... 04:05:10 guess that zcash premine wasnt big enough they were too broke to hire people that actually know how to troll properly... that was cringe... 04:05:14 @thefuzzstone:electrologic.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEERDx3gnlqI2Zj2EzGL72d6KiMLLMFAmiH7rMACgkQL72d6KiMLLONKA/9GgixJDLCjgDA0ERB7sBCJUKSVxtY9b5RgMWqGkWYI/2eo0N1fyVb64XP9Wc/m+gN9dF41JZLrMGgBYyiFbHuPyRQB6ode8GsfXwSuXZccKqq/LcAMgODGe7s6MokhYaiB5QhWfkwWUjmBcOJtKlM72rWfOjEeV0QGQVcugemKbC31c5i7oeWCCE6kbeU4mUufS0X [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/lNvAj8QKXzhoQkRC ] 04:05:20 dm not working I sent you a message on sx 04:05:47 we are the only ones left 04:05:52 @owow:electrologic.org: https://xcancel.com/thefuzzstone the one in chat here is fake lol 04:06:37 oh, u actually the same 04:06:41 i mean 04:07:00 @owow:electrologic.org = @thefuzzstone:electrologic.org 04:07:48 but they're not https://xcancel.com/thefuzzstone 04:08:39 @thefuzzstone:electrologic.org sent 04:09:25 @zcash:electrologic.org: hai hai fake ooo/anon/perfect-daemon 04:09:40 try harder lmao 04:10:01 @thefuzzstone:electrologic.org sent 04:10:19 also... didnt move to zcash, mofo literally made a ccs few hours ago: 04:10:19 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/621 04:10:56 the donators left he will not get funded 04:11:07 you don't know anything 04:11:20 it hasnt been merged yet so no donors yet lmao, wtf u even on about x) 04:11:41 @jakexmrthefed:electrologic.org: true x) 04:20:34