00:58:38 plowsof, in fact it was not fork_version property that made it works, just restarting monero-lws changed get_unspent_outs response with spend_key_images and it was not there before, do you know why I have to restart it to make it work? 01:04:01 Cc @vtnerd:monero.social 01:39:22 johny_: I thought you previously said you were using openmonero? Did you switch? 01:47:18 vtnerd yes I am trying monero-lws now 01:54:25 vtnerd right now I went back to your commit from last July the 24th to see if it was working better, I am wondering if this thing has ever worked 02:11:56 nop it does work better with ecf3067, I am giving up for the moment 02:16:33 vtnerd I wanted to know why I have to restart monero-lws to get spend_key_images property from get_unspent_outs response for the new tx, I don't understand why you are asking me if I did switch :-/ 02:35:51 The spend_key_images are possible spends. They are not the images being spent in that tx, rather they are the potential spends from future txes 02:36:22 Your new tx has an empty list because that particular output was never used in a ring signature, and therefore could not be spent 02:44:25 vtnerd I am not sure spend_key_images is the source of my issue but I have noticed after restarting, this property was there for outputs and it was not there before restarting 02:46:07 vtnerd I cannot spend my funds using mymonero-web-js if I don't restart monero-lws, that's my issue 02:51:38 If you aren't using --daemon-sub then lws polls for new blocks. This will cause a delay in showing results. Restarting simply refetches newest blocks everytime 02:57:06 vtnerd ok thank you I am going to try that 03:55:51 vtnerd I just made a try with daemon sub but it was not working better, btw it is --sub and not --daemon-sub? 04:05:48 but also doesnt believe privacy exsists as devices are born compromised <- Was there ever evidence proprietary architectures by themselves were a *passive* surveillance danger? Like, I get the issues, but it's weird to claim that outright "privacy doesn't exist". 04:14:50 meownero 04:58:24 It probably is just --sub , make sure to use the pub side on the daemon 06:48:56 What the hell is this post owo https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1ax5xqy/i_know_its_been_mentioned_here_before_but_it_is/ 07:28:34 @diego:cypherstack.com: is your stackwallet more trusted than cakewallet nowadays? last time (few years ago) you released some binaries as some alpha version type thing in those channels, tried it very briefly and at the time had to let you know that i had to change my firewall rules to allow out (cause "default deny outgoing") so it could connect to somewhere, just to launch the wallet 07:28:34 like, couldnt generate a wallet without it having to connect to the internet, did you fix that since? 07:30:42 like at this point i dont even know what to shill lmao 07:30:42 was able to shill the CLI to monero community, that was fine 07:30:42 but to the broader communities, cake been easier to shill, good UX and shits type thing... 07:53:23 mobile wallets are safe depending on your device 07:53:35 if you use it on a chinese no-name phone, you deserve to be hacked 07:53:50 like honestly pick a secure device 07:54:47 also ofrnxmr, thanks for the key images API 07:59:22 Cindy: Cindy_ @Syndi or whatever that other spelling @fbfa3bd15e surprised confirmed fed that shills IRC is still around, no wonder u out here saying phones are secure smh 08:00:49 call me by my nickserv username if you can't keep up :P 08:00:55 which might be visible on matrix? 08:01:01 https://youtube.com/watch?v=NQsQviHLZsE 08:01:01 (use a privacy respecting youtube frontend) 08:01:01 phones are not secure 08:01:19 i said "depending on your device" 08:01:37 most phones don't even meet the security standard 08:01:54 because they don't put any budget towards it 08:02:04 the only few phones i can think of are google pixels 08:02:20 any budget or effort* 08:02:21 not to mention most phones spend most of their life EOL because the updates are tied to the manufacturer and you can't install an alternative OS... 08:02:47 ^ 08:03:43 was always able to install cyanogenmod.... idk what u talking about tbh 08:03:44 anyways, back to watching the youtube or whatever idk 08:03:44 latta o/ 08:03:48 even if you setup everything right on a crappy phone, the feds can just find a vulnerability in the bootloader 08:04:05 and compromise the ROM within 08:04:25 Isn't Cyanogenmod an old thing by now? The one I hear about the most is Lineage, but the problem is that a lot of common manufacturers don't even allow bootloader unlocking. 08:04:27 fungible.: well, think, how have you been able to install cyanogenmod? :P 08:04:50 if you didn't unlock your bootloader officially, you probably used a tool that exploited a vulnerability within the bootloader 08:04:55 ye it's been discontinued for a decade now 08:04:57 to unlock it 08:05:26 I mean Cyanogen - Wiki says it's been developed between 2009 and 2016. 08:05:48 right, proves the point, phones not secure 08:06:06 crappy phones not secure 08:06:31 https://github.com/zenfyrdev/bootloader-unlock-wall-of-shame - it's pretty bad. Xiaomi is technically possible but in practice effectively not, for example. 08:06:34 the good ones are the ones that nobody can unlock outside the official way 08:06:45 and even then, there are a lot more on top of that 08:06:56 (excluding those phone manufacturers like Xiaomi that fucking suck) 08:07:24 Huawei doesn't even have the "technicality" that Xiaomi does 08:09:06 RDLOCK is the unlock method that can only be done by service centers and the factory 08:09:17 and it's permanent 08:09:37 so what chinese people would do, is take their huawei phones to repair and snatch the phone out of their hands after they've done RDLOCK 08:10:28 The clips I've seen were marked as Xiaomi, but might be that the same applies to Huawei too. 08:11:54 The fact that they take such risks makes me wonder - just how hard it is to get a phone there that unlocks more sanely? Like, maybe one that's not sold officially. I tried searching, but haven't found a coherent answer, at least in English. 08:58:54 vtnerd how do you know that sub setting worked? there is nothing in the logs at startup?? my issue is still there and I would like to fix it, I have added --zmq-pub=tcp://127.0.0.1:18084 to monerod and --sub=tcp://127.0.0.1:18084 to monero-lws 09:28:49 plowsof you don't have the same issue as me? you are able to send the funds right after transaction is confirmed? 09:53:42 johny__ ive found that i have to wait a long time to where i think 'does this even work / is it broken?' when i receive funds and waiting to spend them - eventually though im able to send 09:56:12 plowsof does that mean you have the same issue as me? 09:59:48 if this is specifically about monero-lws being slow when funds are unlocked and should be spendable (balance taking time to update etc) then yes, same issue. is this a known issue vtnerd? 10:00:17 can you merge-mine to multiple addresses in p2pool? 10:00:29 or is that like dumb 10:00:43 i wanted to like split my hashrate across some addresses as donation 10:11:51 smh 11:33:52 plowsof are you able to see zmq sub logs if you switch to log level 3? I can't find any 13:38:50 Hey do you mean Cindy 13:38:54 What* 13:39:00 Merge mine to multiple? 13:39:18 You mean give % off to each one? 13:39:34 go-p2pool allows you to specify the address via --user field on stratum directlt 13:39:49 Makes this easier to do, can mine at the same time on different addresses 17:02:49 Try it out! We are indeed in a much better place than a few years ago > <@fungible.:matrix.org> like at this point i dont even know what to shill lmao 17:03:16 DataHoarder: yes, give % off to each one 17:04:36 you can implement a wrapper over that tbh 17:04:38 or edit the stratum select on my code :D 17:04:55 it handles switching user better (designed for it) 17:05:03 honestly, at a level above the p2pool server 17:05:37 yeah. but C p2pool won't let you do that as easy 17:05:47 with go p2pool you can just change xmrproxy code or something else 17:06:07 i wanted to see if like xmrig could do this for example 17:06:09 use api to look at share % instead of just time mining 17:06:13 like merge mine from different servers 17:06:36 merge mine is something that the underlying program that generates the work has to do 17:06:38 not xmrig 17:06:47 xmrig mainly just churns through nonces in an efficient manner 17:06:57 hm 17:07:10 well, xmrig has a 1% donate thing 17:07:20 could that be modified to allow hashrate sharing across different servers 17:07:23 --donate 0 :D 17:07:27 no i mean like 17:07:36 it's single time 17:07:38 but yes 17:07:40 you can specify donation target 17:07:43 80% to server A, 10% to server B, 10% to server C 17:07:44 that allows you two 50/50 :) 17:07:52 it just switched the pool address for 1min / 100mins 17:08:04 Not on gentoo 17:08:04 -donate USE (I think) 17:08:35 exactly, and i was thinking if the time sharing thing could be used to mine for multiple servers 17:08:43 You can split work to many diff addresses by just tunning xmrig N times 17:08:50 instead of just one (and occassionally the donate server) 17:08:53 Running* 17:08:53 you can do that on xmrig-proxy tbh 17:09:13 ofrnxmr: each of the xmrigs allocate their own dataset and stuff, that'd be a waste of RAM 17:09:24 U sure? 17:09:34 @ofrnxmr: Yeah. And just set a different number of cores for the different xmrig 17:09:40 well i don't think xmrig takes advantage of shared memory 17:09:45 so each one has their own dataset 17:10:04 So more trashing? 17:10:12 would have to re-test it, but i used to do this all the time 17:10:32 plowsof: This is not a known issue. There are people using it for immediate webhook notifications with no known delays 17:10:47 DataHoarder: well good to hear 17:11:00 sgp_^ 17:12:15 johny__: There aren't any specific logs afaik, should probably add some, rather the notification about block scanning will immediately trigger if zmq pub/sub is working correctly 17:15:30 Guys is there some Linux ARM build? 17:15:58 kekzploit: for what 17:16:06 @kekzploit:matrix.org: you mean like linux distros that work on ARM? 17:16:15 monero has linux ARM builds 17:16:29 and RISC-V builds too 17:16:41 Cindy: ... this makes more sense than what my brain thought 17:17:21 lol 17:17:24 yes just for the raspberry pi 17:17:38 you haven't mentioned what program specifically though 17:17:45 im trying to import blockchain.raw but getting issues 17:17:47 is it monerod? monero wallet gui? 17:17:48 I have a question.https://github.com/monero-project/monero/releases/tag/v0.18.4.3 17:18:00 There is a linux armv8 build available 17:18:17 sorry, monerod and all the extras, Linux RPI5, ubuntu server 17:18:41 with an i2p proxy to top it off 17:18:54 yes monero offers builds for armv7 and armv88 17:18:56 armv8* 17:19:07 thanks guys 17:19:16 if that doesn't really fit your arch, you can always compile yourself 17:19:59 arm 7 or 8 for rpi5? 17:20:38 8 17:20:44 RPI5 has ARMv8 18:03:10 @vtnerd: There should be a warning message if the pub/sub isn't working. Lws will indicate a timeout for pub/sub occurred 18:54:01 vtnerd I made the changes you advised me but I am still unable to send the funds right after the tx is confirmed, plowsof is also saying he has same issue, would it be possible to know what we are doing wrong? 18:55:29 vtnerd I have no warning message that pub sub isn't working and I have a good computer 18:55:36 What wallet r u using? 18:56:21 I am using monero-lws with mymonero-web-js 18:57:23 everything is working great except the issue I have mentioned 19:06:00 I have a question, are mobile wallet app like phantom secure ? 19:09:07 depends on your phone 19:09:16 like literally that's what it comes down to 19:09:54 security of these apps don't mean anything if your phone has the security of a cheeto lock on a door 19:13:39 Cindy: Well my phone probably sucks at security, it's an old huawei. Should I just use wallet on a pc, or is there way to do is safely ? 19:17:25 use wallet on a PC i guess 19:17:48 does your PC have Secure Boot? 19:19:54 Cindy: yeah, it's pretty recent so i guess it do 19:20:29 you can encrypt your drive with LUKS and also enroll your linux distro's keys into secure boot 19:21:44 that should provide good security against unauthorized software modification and such 19:21:50 (that a old huawei phone wouldn't have :P) 19:23:43 Cindy: But if i just want to use cryptos a little, nothing really important and not much money, would it be a problem to use my phone ? 19:24:09 well if you don't consider it very important then sure 19:24:28 it's all about threat model 19:48:16 Cindy: can also use the tpm. 19:48:17 To detivate your key basec on gpg encrypted payload + content of some of the PCR registers 19:49:59 Be careful what pcr register to use. 19:49:59 One of them get altered by cmos change and another by efi partition (so bootloader update change it). 19:49:59 PCR 7 is based on secureboot validity so maybe only that one can be used