02:39:03 <321bob321> So will cex too 05:56:49 oh right, funds are safu 👍️ 06:05:31 how is the crypto collapse 06:06:18 Who's collapsing? 06:06:40 the what? 06:19:23 <321bob321> Crypto is in administration 07:22:32 https://decrypt.co/349694/cardano-network-disrupted-poisoned-transaction-attack 07:22:58 Probably a reminder to stay the course with audits and reviews for our own code 12:45:34 Hey y'all what happens to cake wallet community support 12:45:43 ? 12:46:26 redti989 what do you mean what happens to cake wallet community support? 12:46:47 what even is cake wallet community support? 🤔 12:47:42 dukenukem: Matrix room doesn't exist and telegram dead 12:48:00 Reddit Quiet since around 8 November 12:48:30 And new centralized support is offer 12:48:33 redti989 let's start from the beginning... neither of those rooms are supposed to be used for support queries, they are/were more of a hangout space, *not* for actually getting support. 12:48:50 if you need support, send in an e-mail, or use the in-app chat support featuree. 12:49:15 telegram group was phased out months ago, now there's only a channel, no group. 12:49:30 Matrix room does exist, I am in it right now. 12:50:01 just to be abundantly clear: you should _never_ use the matrix room or reddit as an official support channel. 12:51:13 I prefer support from community 12:51:43 🤷‍ don't complain when you get scammed. 12:51:49 Cake won't be responsible. 12:52:00 I sent you an invite to the matrix room just now. 12:52:02 I can't find the matrix room 12:52:15 Read above. 12:56:51 You can get scammed more easily by mail then in the open space where everyone see what happens 12:57:34 If I try to scam someone people are gonna denounce it 12:58:29 lol 12:58:46 sure thing, buddy. good luck with that. 👍️ 12:59:22 you are basically saying you rather get support from online randos vs. from actual cake employees on payroll, using *official* support channels. 12:59:36 you do you. good luck with that, as I said. 🤷‍♂️ 13:00:16 Yes exactly 13:00:34 lol 13:00:34 why would they want to scam you 13:00:40 do you take advice at face value 13:00:58 are you afraid to blindly follow things 13:07:54 No its just I don't like this way of doing things 13:11:17 there is only 33 souls in there 13:11:45 ...probably because the room version was upgraded from v6 to v12 recently? 13:12:03 by me, who works for Cake Wallet, and just told you to use *official* channels? 13:41:06 @meditate-roaring-timeline:electrologic.org: hey zcash shill o/ 13:41:08 @charge-teaching:electrologic.org: o/ 13:42:38 @chicken-jewel-sage-teaspoon:electrologic.org: o/ 13:47:07 @oaktree3:electrologic.org: o/ 16:38:28 Hi i need 200 Monero 16:38:45 me too 16:41:50 me too 16:42:22 if i had 200 XMR, i wouldn't be here 16:47:03 Maybe he needs 1 XMR=$200 16:48:47 sech1: 1 XMR = 1 XMR ser. 16:48:52 everyone knows this. 16:51:57 if you mine XMR for 100 years 16:52:04 you'll get uhhhh 16:52:22 2M debt with electricity company and about 10 XMR in total? 16:52:23 :D 16:52:52 wrong 16:52:54 11 XMR :P 16:53:00 AND 2M debt 16:53:23 sounds about right. 17:23:16 Is there logs for the chat ? 17:24:21 Why can’t access the monero logs ? 17:26:33 who ran monerologs? gingeropolous? 17:29:56 $ curl --verbose https://libera.monerologs.net/monero returns error 503 17:30:07 so server side error 17:30:34 Seems down since long time 17:30:43 I checked on archive it says last archive 6 months ago 17:30:54 it was alive a couple of days ago 17:31:14 DataHoarder: Okay good to know 17:31:15 archive doesn't archive it regularly 17:32:14 if you open freenode.monerologs.net that will show old logs 17:32:17 from freenode 17:32:33 you want libera.monerologs.net 17:32:39 which is when Freenode -> LiberaChat migrated 17:32:56 Got it 17:33:03 which yes, that's 2021 logs 17:33:04 Ur right 17:33:34 now I'm curious why the freenode one is alive, probably cause it received no updates it just survived whatever issue affected the dynamic new one 17:33:55 (it's the same IP btw) 17:39:05 How he runs this logs 17:39:15 He scraps the data or how is this done !? 17:41:51 bot joins irc 17:42:04 anyone can log 17:42:06 or you could fetch matrix messages directly 17:42:20 I am on IRC 17:42:29 I am also on IRC 17:42:36 I have my own logs 17:42:43 I also have my own logs 17:43:27 Also, I'm not DataHoarder's alt if you're wondering 17:45:45 lol 18:15:02 no, i don't run monerologs 18:34:31 gingeropolous: I see. who tf ran monerologs and why is it down? 18:34:45 I swear I knew at some point. If my memory worked for once... 20:39:52 stackwallet keeps crashing still (up to date graphene & up to date stackwallet app) > <@diego:cypherstack.com> Try it out! We are indeed in a much better place than a few years ago 20:39:52 Subject: Input dispatching timed out 20:39:52 stack wallet not responding yaddy yaddy 20:39:52 Waited 5001ms for MotionEvent 20:39:52 more nerd shits yaddy yadda 20:54:16 #stackwallet:cypherstack.com 20:57:50 yea nvm anyways, guess none of the wallets are able to sync rn anyways 20:57:50 tho can watch the youtube just fine 20:57:50 so i guess will have to try to do the whole "settings -> developers options -> Linux development environment (Experimental) Run Linux terminal on Android" and do the whole monerod from here (pruned most likely) then do the 127.0.0.1 in those mobile wallets i guess... 21:03:34 Unable or able? 21:03:47 Nvm i missed the "none" part 21:04:19 @rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org: You can just use termux 21:04:55 i like native debian running natively tho, just didnt wanna bother have to download the whole blockchain on mobile data... 21:05:17 but yea, same thing pretty much 21:11:02 if you're gonna download the whole blockchain on mobile data 21:11:06 just stick to a remote node over tor 21:12:38 right, skylight wallet didnt work for me on that, made the wallet, sent funds to it and it wasnt showing up in there, was able to restore that same wallet to monero dot com tho, but today literally none are able to sync, it shows the block remaining properly, when restarting it adds the new remaining blocks to the count too, but it just dont sync... 21:12:45 @rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org: can try proot 21:13:58 just not in the mood to do the nerd shits tbh, idk why the wallets just dont work while youtube does 21:16:24 Im on graphene and cake, stack, monfluo all work here 21:16:38 silentlink data? 21:16:42 nope 21:16:45 Wifi 21:17:13 yea, that's what been causing my issues cause had an unpaid bill on that which fixed it yesterday, idk wtf for today tho 21:17:27 what's with your network 21:17:35 is it a CGNAT? 21:17:57 no idea, its https://silent.link/ 21:17:59 or some crappy network that blocks ports that it doesn't know? 21:18:17 it worked for a whole year until now... 21:18:40 what network specifically 21:18:41 Try an https node 21:18:47 thought that maybe they would be blocking those ports today but they literally accepting monero so... dont really make sense u know 21:18:51 like seth's 21:19:10 slient.link is a eSIM reseller 21:19:12 Seth's is port 443 so should look like normal data 21:19:17 they don't maintain the actual underlying network 21:19:59 idk its on roaming, ill check https node but the wallets do have automatic node switching, seeing the thing selecting the default ones but maybe adding a custom one could help, hence why thought 127.0.0.1 would work if running monerod but i just too lazy for that rn, too expensive, too long, too nerdy lol 21:20:25 running monerod would probably not work if you're under a CGNAT 21:20:31 which is most likely if you're using mobile data 21:20:41 Monerod isn't very happy behind cgnat, but it does work. 21:20:43 using a remote node is your best chance 21:20:57 Cindy_: Works on my own mobile network 21:21:08 Cindy_: they are using remote nodes rn 21:21:29 But they are probably using them w/ http, so providers might be blocking 21:22:11 id either try tor, or an https node on port 443 (seths) 21:22:28 If tor and https work, then the network is blocking monero 21:22:29 why is HTTP a option in monerod 21:22:42 like plain HTTP 21:22:51 Because you dont need https on a local network 21:23:02 no i mean HTTP outside LAN 21:23:04 Self signed certs dont play nice with curl etc 21:23:27 Because its the default to be in autodetect mode 21:23:37 monero should be refusing to connect to node over HTTP (unless it's in LAN or over tor/I2P) 21:23:37 seth's node in the default on monero dot com, its 443 so https already, maybe disabling SSL there could work, idk lol 21:23:47 You can juat slap https infront of the url to use https 21:24:19 Cindy_: You don't always know what is LAN and what isn't, especially over IPv6 21:24:24 --rpc-ssl= default is autodetect 21:24:25 Snipa: o/ btw 21:24:32 Uses self-signed certs 21:24:47 ofrnxmr: but does monerod do what i said earlier? 21:25:07 like refuse connections if it's outside LAN, not over tor/I2P, and uses plain HTTP 21:25:10 Why would monerod care? It's the server, not the client. Clients enforce SSL security. 21:25:42 Your defintion of what is LAN may not be the same as what I consider to be LAN. 21:25:53 hm, isn't monerod the one that has the option to connect to a remote node? or am i forgetting a detail 21:25:58 No? 21:25:58 maybe i'm wrong 21:26:06 it's probably the wallet programs 21:26:06 monerod is the node 21:26:14 Are you thinking of monero.com 21:26:16 but still, monero clients 21:26:19 I mean, it can for P2P sync, but that's expected. Wallet is the bit that needs to connect to remote nodes. 21:26:29 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: That use a "use ssl" toggle 21:26:32 do monero clients refuse connections to nodes if it's outside LAN.. blah blah blah 21:26:35 you know what i mean? 21:26:43 Monero does not take care of your security, you should expect to have to work for it. 21:26:47 ah i see 21:27:06 oh shit :O 21:27:09 ok 21:27:23 i meant for normal users who don't know how to properly take care of their security 21:27:28 so today, getting a UK ip 21:27:28 while for a whole year that was a poland ip 21:27:39 that makes sense lol 21:27:40 I mean, what do you define as a normal user? 21:27:41 :D 21:27:46 (no vpn, just the default setup with graphene / silentlink) 21:27:55 Snipa: someone who isn't a nerd about the inner workings of monero :P 21:28:01 the "simple mode" 21:28:11 You've got everything from people like me who live on the CLI all day, which I'd consider to be completely normal who don't need to know how XMR works beyond normal CLI tooling. 21:28:35 Mine are a bit whiny because I don't let them connect to the net, my poor bandwidth is precious. :( 21:29:03 browsers (or firefox) complain about HTTP connections to remote sites nowadays 21:29:12 i wonder why monero clients don't do the same lol 21:29:32 i guess just setting up a vpn will fix that for me then, thanks for the feedbacks yall 21:29:32 uk ip routing is fucking me up today i guess 21:29:34 The CLI wallet whines unless you tag the remote nodes as trusted. 21:30:07 oh 21:30:35 And that includes lan traffic, it's not like Monero doesn't try to help a little here and there, but there's also just way too many different ways, because for example, I'd assume most people are auctually using something like cake wallet, which really has to do all that work on it's own. 21:32:12 Realistically, the number of people who would notice a HTTP vs HTTPS is pretty low, and they're generally going to know what they're doing, not the other way around. :D 21:32:53 Snipa: still 800lbs and being a piece of shit to your employees but still being an actual sweetheart btw? :3 21:32:58 what's the number of ISPs that'll grab the TXID of transactions that someomne sent over HTTP 21:33:05 and associate it with their IPs 21:33:12 Not like I've ever changed that much. I assume we know each other from somewhere. xD 21:33:26 :P 21:33:31 rawr_barky_blep: what's the problem with being 800lbs 21:33:56 :P 21:34:23 400 at the moment actually, my body is retaining a ton of water with how weirdly moist it is atm. 21:34:27 Cindy_: that would be for offtopic talks, chillin today 21:34:31 Need the temps to drop like 10-15f and just crash the water out. 21:34:35 x) 21:34:52 Snipa is holding an entire pool 21:35:23 Life's too boring without some sort of side projects. :) 21:35:29 within their body 21:35:32 :P :P :P 21:36:00 Eh, I'm built for it thankfully. :) 6'3" life with broad shoulders. 21:36:21 O_O 21:36:31 The main pain is not having worked out regularly for the last year, which, the power-rack is finally assembled and room in the garage, so it's time to get back to lifting. 21:36:35 6'3, daaamn 21:37:30 bright side is good temps rn to do the workout, and with upcoming xmas meals, could always do some more of that working out thing anyways :3 21:37:58 Eh, I've got FPGA's running in the garage, it's always like 75-80 in there now, even if it's 35 outside. 21:38:09 Makes for a surprisingly comfortable workout if I leave the garage door open. :D 21:38:10 what are those FPGAs doing? 21:38:19 fair enough x) 21:38:22 They're still running tari streams at the moment. 21:38:39 Mostly so i can heat my garage so it's comfortable to lift in. xD 21:38:44 damn 21:39:58 the good news is I finally got a phone for Graphene testing > <@rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org> stackwallet keeps crashing still (up to date graphene & up to date stackwallet app) 21:40:04 I think there's an ironfish/tari double-mine at the moment. 21:40:10 \o/ 21:40:15 But sha3x is all asics, so it's kinda whatever. 21:40:24 the bad news is you owe me $20 for pinging me 21:40:35 lmao 21:40:40 you didn't say which dollar currency 21:40:46 i'll give you 20 zimbabwen dollars 21:40:49 well, cant send you $20 if ur wallet not even working smh 21:41:01 @rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org: GOSH DARN IT 21:41:13 downloading vpn rn, hopefully it'll fix it 21:41:21 This is why wallets should always be cli. _nods_ 21:41:25 addy? 21:41:40 Snipa: Snipa! Been a while. Try Stack Wallet 21:41:45 fine will make Stack CLI 21:41:50 guys 21:41:56 what is the deal with CLI wallets 21:42:13 I enjoy suffering. 21:42:25 I use git on CLI 21:42:30 That's why i have two VM's, one for hosting my crypto daemons, then one for hosting my crypto wallets. 21:42:31 cuz that's how anonimal taught me 21:42:39 waaaaay back in the day 21:42:46 pretty sure wownero had a mobile app that was by default a node, but the blockchain size over there way less bloated so that makes senses 21:42:57 monero has monero-chan 21:42:57 I mix between CLI git and JetBrains. 21:43:02 wownero has wario or something 21:43:07 what does wownero have? 21:43:20 I also suffer through using Tari's CLI wallet on a daily basis. 21:43:29 So yanno, the masochism is real. 21:43:51 I'm pretty sure Stack was like the ONLY wownero wallet for a long time 21:43:52 cuz even wowlet didn't work for most 21:44:51 > Wants me to use Stack Wallet 21:44:51 > Only releases the worst linux distribution types. 21:45:08 Did someone say 800lbs > <@rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org> Snipa: still 800lbs and being a piece of shit to your employees but still being an actual sweetheart btw? :3 21:45:12 Going back to my nice cleanly compiled monero-wallet-cli 21:45:49 you didn't answer my question! 21:45:53 what's wrong with 800lbs! 21:45:55 Snipa: I don't like the Flatpak 21:45:59 how should I release? 21:46:03 give me something better plz 21:46:08 I mean, I'm a debian user. xD 21:46:15 I expect dpkgs, but I also enjoy suffering. 21:46:34 So as long as your source mostly compiles I'll eventually figure it out. 21:46:57 it does mostly compile weee 21:47:03 ok I'll look into dpkgs 21:47:20 Tbh, AI/FP is mostly fine, I just don't like how they launch. 21:47:28 They don't have the good feel most of the time. 21:47:57 I'm also just a bitter old linux admin who thinks distributing every library and chrooting into an environment is cheating. 21:47:58 xD 21:48:28 you should have seen linux user namespaces 21:48:40 aight so setting up vpn didnt fix the issue of those mobile wallets not being able to sync... 21:48:41 i give up, mobile are cursed 21:48:50 rawr_barky_blep: literally use orbot 21:48:55 use tor, and a remote node over onion 21:48:56 I cut my teeth on CentOS boxes running cPanel 17 years ago. :) 21:49:20 Cindy_: oh right, have to try that too then i give up lol 21:49:40 Isn't the xmrchain node open for general use? 21:49:54 I should probally slap it behind https. 21:54:54 Snipa: No 21:55:36 hi, did any of you tried https://www.goblincards.com/ or heard about someone using it? 21:55:36 it’s been a while since i searched a card provider that don’t ask for a undecent amout or stupid stuff like % on each card payment 21:55:57 I'll have to poke at it some, I know we used to leave it available as a remote. 21:56:05 And it's on a nice chunky box now, so no reason not to. 21:57:55 @reaster:matrix.reaster.dev: havent tried that one but got shotgun kyc'd by cake few years back, still havent redeemed it to this day... 21:57:55