08:38:23 $XMR TO MOON 🚀 08:54:37 @zombie:catgirl.cloud: real 08:55:45 higher price higher security budget, literally everyone wins 09:23:02 All you need to do is buy and hold, or even consider doing Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA). 09:27:10 <321bob321> Nioc confirm mooning ? 11:17:29 This was a random thing that came to my head a couple years ago but I never took the time to share. I figure there is some rap fans in the monero community. 11:17:29 But anyways in Lil Wayne's, "6 foot 7 foot" song which is vulgar but also an objectively a titan in hip hop word play, there is a bars, "real G's move in silence like lasagna" (read it over a couple times, takes a bit to understand) and whenever I hear it I can't help but think of monero lol 11:19:10 Is the title of the song referring to the meme? I see it referenced pretty frequently in my game's chat. 11:20:15 Nah this came out in 2010 predates the 67 meme by 15 years 11:20:59 lol 11:21:12 I don't make art, and didn't want to AI generate some slop but a monero logo dripping like lasagna with that bar could be a cool sunday reddit post, I'd need to check the subreddit's rules on when you can post troll stuff 11:25:34 Just don't post slop online okay? A lot of people are really grossed out and that greatly overshadows whatever point you would've wanted to make. 11:26:12 BTW unrelated but I love that Graphene's forums explicitly banned generated texts now with the sole exception of translations. 11:27:34 BlueyHealer: 100% I was just sharing the idea, the thought is original I just don't have the talent to create the artwork organically 11:39:17 I'm sorry if i sound rude then but then it's either best to keep it to yourself, to sketch something basic or to start drawing more to improve yourself) 11:39:45 Crude sketches can be so charming. Like, one of the funniest videos I've seen is stickman drawings XD 11:45:52 Nope all good, this was just me thought dumping, I am not going to post anything haha. More if some artist thought the idea was cool, could be cool to see them take a stab at making it (without ai) 12:00:32 )) 12:13:51 BlueyHealer: i'm glad to see some backlash against unfettered slop 12:16:23 sorry just to clarify I was just sharing my thought, (I'm vain) I had no intention to post AI slop please don't think I was encouraging that :( 12:16:28 it's okay! 12:16:36 i wasn't talking about you lol 12:16:38 you're fine 12:19:22 also btw, i never really used AI image generation 12:20:26 the last model i used was stable diffusion back when it was just a novelty lol 12:21:04 but i never used it for anything serious 12:22:34 Haha good one. > <@ohchase:envs.net> This was a random thing that came to my head a couple years ago but I never took the time to share. I figure there is some rap fans in the monero community. 12:23:32 Lmao AI is the future get over it. > Just don't post slop online okay? A lot of people are really grossed out and that greatly overshadows whatever point you would've wanted to make. 12:24:41 of course there'd be slop ass-kissers here 12:25:04 I don’t even use AI. 12:25:16 It’s just common sense. 12:25:23 i use neural networks 12:26:08 It’s quite cringe to witness your reaction when someone casually mentions the idea of using AI. 12:26:52 i'm not actually against "AI", or what people are actually referring to, neural networks for certain tasks 12:27:05 i use it myself to detect NSFW stuff automatically 12:27:24 i'm against the massive generative models that just waste power to produce slop 12:27:54 while companies continue to feed more RAM and GPU into it 12:27:59 at the expense of others 12:28:53 This sounds like a troll. I am not engaging and feels like you shouldn't too. They're after the engagement. 12:31:24 Cindy: Yes, on that point, I somewhat agree with you. 12:31:42 i remember i was enthusiast about neural networks, when they were open (hah, get it OPENAI?) 12:32:08 BlueyHealer: You get “trolling” from a simple discussion? 12:32:32 like cool shit would have a long ass whitepaper describing every little bit about it: the specs of the model, what it can do over the previous attempts 12:32:40 and sometimes even source code 12:32:45 zombie, from the tone, rather 12:32:51 Cindy: Now those days was based. 12:32:57 now it's just giant black boxes 12:33:44 BlueyHealer: I apologize, but how can you discern the tone of a text? 12:34:07 giant black boxes that, you don't need to worry about how it works internally 12:34:15 Cindy: It could have been much better. I am left disappointed. 12:34:21 just eat up the slop, dummy. no thinking 12:35:05 Cindy: Just leads back to people and their nature of wanting things easy 12:35:58 zombie: this all started when "AI" research moved from universities and collaborative thinking to giant for-profit companies and competition 12:36:22 you can't collaborate with others if you wanna make profit 12:37:21 you have to have the BEST model 12:37:30 zombie, from words like "lmao it's the future get over it" 12:37:42 but it was never about the best, it was just about the fun of seeing it work 12:37:52 and the hard work that went into it 12:38:07 Sam altman used Alec Radford to get GPT-1 off the groubd and bait and switched. Do any of you even know who Radford is? 12:38:12 But yeah, seems like you're actually more civil than that. 12:39:06 do you think there's any potential profit from a GAN that can only generate realistic faces? 12:39:18 no, there's not. but it was done only for fun 12:39:27 Cindy, absolutely. Porn and fake news. 12:39:38 BlueyHealer: i'm talking about ThisPersonDoesNotExist 12:39:51 or what it uses underneath, StyleGAN 12:40:24 Very! That's one use of GenAI I can get behind - creating less suspicious avatars for when they're needed. 12:40:27 you can't make the model generate a specific face 12:40:41 it only generates whatever looks like a human face.. or the equivalent of the sims randomizer 12:40:48 Cindy, that quite a lot to think about. Thanks for sharing. 12:40:52 I prefer to have a meme there but if I wanted, say, some more "serious" account where it is unacceptable - yeah. 12:46:29 ThisPersonDoesNotExist is not profitable, but that wasn't the point 12:46:40 the point is to see a computer program literally generate a realistic human face on its own 12:47:33 Yeah. Doubles (I don't know how intentionally) as a statement for convincing online alt accounts. 12:47:35 and the site literally generates a image for you.. for free on their own servers too 12:47:44 no ads, or subscriptions or whatver bullshit 12:47:54 Yeah, that's nice. 12:48:25 but nowadays if you search up ThisPersonDoesNotExist, all you get in the search terms are a bunch of SEO-optimized clones running the same code but putting a giant watermark on it and charging 15 dollars for image generation 12:48:33 all above the real site 12:48:48 Oh, didn't know that! 12:48:50 because, dare i say, it's AI 12:48:57 and AI good right? 12:49:33 I assumed people switched to the more advanced mainstream models for this now... 12:52:18 point i'm making is that AI used to be just for shits and giggles, like for fun 12:52:28 until it became corporate and profit-driven 12:53:11 sure, AI was still used in serious contexts, but the generative stuff would just be for fun 12:54:00 i think the most they used it for was moderation or something 12:55:46 This is my vibe with crypto in general also, desire for making money perverted crypto versus the desire for decentralized monero > point i'm making is that AI used to be just for shits and giggles, like for fun 12:57:22 be just for shits and giggles, like for fun <- I also despise when it's used for memes because memes are just so inherently human. 12:58:00 Cindy | i think the most they used it for was moderation or something <- Yeah, that sounds fair enough. As long as you can actually appeal that and not like on Youtube. 12:58:32 Also this would probably be able to recognize and "review" spammers! 13:00:13 0x0.st uses a NSFW detector model for example 13:00:23 to automatically flag porn 14:52:40 lol monero.fail https://monero.definitelynotafed.com:443 15:12:12 trustednode .net 😃 15:13:38 the new look is great 16:31:52 yoooo new monero.fail design looks awesome 16:32:10 table width a little janky but general style looks cool 16:32:24 i think the old one was better 😞 17:40:00 Cindy: TIL. 17:40:37 @ohchase:envs.net: https://media.tenor.com/9MZIctn7rDcAAAAC/girl-same-willem-dafoe.gif 17:41:11 What does CORS stand for on monero.fail? What's that flag about? 17:41:11 did monero.fail add a rate-limit now? 17:41:25 Cindy: No clue, it didn't for me, yet, at least. 17:41:32 @lza_menace:monero.social: around? :D 17:41:32 after the whole I2P node spam thing 17:41:42 @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: I assume - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-origin_resource_sharing 17:41:48 the node list was completely filled with random I2P nodes 18:00:06 @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: CORS means that the node has TLS encryption + allows web requests to be made from other sites, meaning, if i have a new monero web service I could real-time interact with that node from my web page using Javascript 18:00:57 lza_menace: doesn't that require a reverse proxy? 18:03:02 lza_menace copy that, thanks. 18:03:35 Having a functional service in most cases requires usage of reverse proxies 18:04:39 Cindy: not always, but it's usually easier/better. monerod options do support this 18:04:51 the TLS flags to point to a cert + --rpc-access-control-origins 18:17:15 not rate limiting, but better logic in place to clean up / remove excessive nodes > did monero.fail add a rate-limit now? 18:18:25 zmq-pub checks? :D 18:25:55 DataHoarder: ICYMI. https://0x0.st/Pssd.png || https://www.revuo-xmr.com/weekly/issue-252/ 18:27:42 Nice! 18:28:16 You can filter by any ID, however I filter out payments from Monero pools (these tend to happen continuously) 18:28:51 Note this is also done on any transaction even historical ones, if you want to see the details. Also allows proofs 18:29:18 Yes, I knew about proofs as well, but issue got very long, had to trim and miss a couple very recent news, leave them out for next week's. 18:29:21 Cheers. 18:29:22 (Eg. you can look up old monero donation transactions onto the explorer and see the decoded outputs) 18:32:01 Yeah I understand that. I always highlight that exists whenever it gets mentioned :) 18:32:55 Also- if anyone has any relevant public org you can submit viewkeys for auditing (or provide alternate proofs), ping me if so. 18:39:08 hi 18:39:28 test 18:39:40 testttttttttttttttttttt 18:45:50 test2 18:45:54 test3 18:52:00 ^c4 hji 18:52:53 ^c4 red text 18:53:06 what are you even doing 18:53:11 why are you joining 3 times under the same IP 18:53:56 I am trying to see weather or not colored text show's in my irc client "lchat" on "st" 18:54:20 well Guest28/ArChLiNuXuSeR/testingcolortext 18:54:23 this channel is not +c 18:54:27 so you can do colored text 18:55:40 like this 18:55:50 oh woww 18:56:03 ok the color only shows in web client not lchat 18:56:07 whatever 18:56:22 DataHoarder: how does the matrix bridge handle IRC colors 18:58:20 forget it. can you help me? i need to see a reddit post but i don't have reddit account. so in web reddit i keep getting "you've been blocked by network security to continue, log in to your reddit" but i don't have one. i just wanna see the post in r/PiNetwork titled "How to add PI to Metamask" 18:59:15 use old.reddit.com in tor 18:59:29 and if it shows you a white page, keep refreshing the tor circuit 19:41:45 Asking the right questions! 20:48:49 here is a red it post https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fz1s4tptldr7g1.jpeg 21:07:46 https://www.getmonero.org/community/merchants/ 21:07:53 when will this be updated to include haveno lol 21:38:00 This is the first I've heard of this. Were they specifiically attacking monero.fail or was there another reason for the attack? > the node list was completely filled with random I2P nodes 21:38:17 i dunno 21:38:28 but they filled up the index with tons and tons of I2P nodes per minute 21:39:02 the list of I2P nodes ended up 60x bigger than it was before the attack, but i think they got cleaned up 21:39:15 Not nodes that were passing uptime checks then, just random I2P addresses? 21:39:19 I see. 21:39:32 they passed uptime checks for a bit 21:56:47 yeah, in order to be added to the list they have to be checked. they'd all validate healthy once or twice and then drop off 21:57:12 but had thousands of them added. it skewed the typical runtime of the checking scripts so i had to counteract some things 21:57:25 it's never a dull day operating web services, even simple ones lol