00:09:02 <DataHoarder> FYI. Due to spam wave I have disabled bridges for ~5h due to relapses.
09:22:01 <br-m> <jueyy:matrix.org> How do i buy monero p2p?
09:22:12 <br-m> <jueyy:matrix.org> Anon?
11:57:04 <octavian> Anyone knows what's up with the hashrate? Confirmations taking 2x time for some reason
12:09:38 <br-m> <anything21:matrix.org> octavian: It's normal. Sometimes it takes longer, sometimes it takes less.
12:14:37 <octavian> Got it, thanks
15:07:40 <br-m> <falleninfernal:matrix.org> Where do I discuss monero bounties?
15:20:46 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> #monero-bounties:monero.social
17:01:41 <br-m> <ufo808:matrix.org> why this post got deleted from monero subreddit? https://kappa.lol/ucrkPo
17:02:10 <br-m> <ufo808:matrix.org> I think it's interesting news for monero 
17:02:36 <Cindy_> because it sounded like spam
17:02:54 <br-m> <ufo808:matrix.org> Cindy_: I guess so
17:06:29 <Cindy_> try getting rid of the last sentence
17:06:40 <Cindy_> or how about just post nothing but the headline and link
17:06:56 <br-m> <ufo808:matrix.org> good idea
17:09:22 <br-m> <ufo808:matrix.org> it worked Cindy
17:09:41 <DataHoarder> https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-receives-historic-private-donations
17:10:40 <br-m> <ufo808:matrix.org> DataHoarder: yep I just posted it to monero subreddit btw
17:10:46 <br-m> <ufo808:matrix.org> nice christmas gift 
17:10:53 <DataHoarder> yes. so people can get it here as well
17:13:02 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> does not even load for me
17:14:21 <br-m> <sbt:nope.chat> DataHoarder: repost? https://matrix.to/#/!eBgZCVRnRRkKchiYzS:monero.social/$ZKV3WxFDR0BDqPtz_p_sN_uirogP3Od_KftL0qbMnUc?via=matrix.org&via=monero.social&via=nope.chat
17:14:50 <DataHoarder> lol it's in between the several thousand of spam messages
17:15:06 <DataHoarder> yeah. I was trying to re-post what was in the reddit image
17:31:21 <Cindy_> ufo808: where?
17:31:28 <Cindy_> i can't find the post you sent
17:32:14 <br-m> <stormyyy:stormyyy.xyz> DataHoarder: what spam
17:32:35 <DataHoarder> https://libera.monerologs.net/monero/20251224#c629431
17:32:39 <Cindy_> stormyyy: libera spam from yesterday
17:32:41 <DataHoarder> it was less worse here than in other channels
17:32:52 <DataHoarder> it was cleaned from matrix mostly
17:33:51 <Cindy_> DataHoarder: you missed the fake libera announcement above
17:33:58 <br-m> <datahoarder> no
17:34:05 <br-m> <datahoarder> those even made it onto libera channels
17:34:08 <Cindy_> yes
17:34:11 <br-m> <datahoarder> just not the spammy part
17:34:27 <Cindy_> fun fact: the guy who made that fake libera announcement spam talked here before
17:34:36 <Cindy_> their alts were K-lined
17:37:13 <Cindy_> https://libera.monerologs.net/monero/20251004#c596559
17:38:44 <Cindy_> one of his alts ^
18:31:15 <br-m> <martin.monero:matrix.org> Hi all, what’s the easiest way to buy Monero right now? Any suggestions?
18:31:26 <Cindy_> on haveno retoswap
18:31:39 <Cindy_> if you want the easiest EASIEST way, CEX is
18:31:54 <Cindy_> but that's KYC mostly
18:32:05 <br-m> <redsh4de:matrix.org> @martin.monero:matrix.org: Eigenwallet or Trocador if you already have crypto
18:37:01 <BlueyHealer> Cindy_, or KYC exchange for BTC/LTC, then swap it, that's more widely available.
18:37:35 <Cindy_> i actually have a question related to this
18:37:47 <Cindy_> there are services that convert cryptocurrencies to fiat for you
18:37:55 <Cindy_> but are there services that do vice-versa?
18:38:04 <Cindy_> for accepting fiat
18:38:52 <BlueyHealer> What are the examples of what you're talking about?
18:39:46 <BlueyHealer> In general, I just get the impression that the seller is always supposed to get at least less anonymity and privacy than the buyer.
18:40:42 <Cindy_> BlueyHealer: y'know how companies accept cryptocurrency donations
18:40:53 <Cindy_> they use a intermediate that converts crypto to fiat
18:42:16 <br-m> <martin.monero:matrix.org> Monero isn’t available on CEX.IO (https://cex.io/buy-monero-xmr
18:42:16 <br-m> <martin.monero:matrix.org> ).
18:42:16 <br-m> <martin.monero:matrix.org> I’ll check other options:
18:42:16 <br-m> <martin.monero:matrix.org> https://trocador.app/en/[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/1a3DgtYKdFpGZVpB ]
18:42:29 <BlueyHealer> Yeah, but the one that accepts the converted things has to get KYCd, no?
18:42:47 <Cindy_> yes
18:44:02 <BlueyHealer> IDK that just feels wrong on some level
18:44:15 <Cindy_> but this shouldn't be KYCd :P
18:44:22 <Cindy_> because it's fiat to crypto
18:47:53 <BlueyHealer> Ah, I realized at least one asymmetrical thing I was feeling off about: chargebacks. Like, if a payer decides to do one, the middleman would have no way of providing one. When the buyer is the one handling crypto, this wouldn't be something that can happen.
18:55:34 <snake> i think it's worth looking into whether that could be disputed or not. i know some chargebacks can be disputed. and if a user donates, it gets converted into crypto, it's paid to the person accepting that donation or whatever, then there might be a way to dispute their chargeback since details on the delivery and agreements could be provided
18:56:17 <Cindy_> BlueyHealer: obviously if you do a chargeback, you're a dick
18:56:24 <br-m> <kowalabearhugs_> The donors wish to remain anonymous :) https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-receives-historic-private-donations
18:56:40 <Cindy_> usually people who do chargebacks on a donations are those who want the clout and credit but none of the money to spend on it
18:57:04 <Cindy_> (except those who had their credit card stolen or something)
18:58:35 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> Hi everyone 👋
18:58:35 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> I’ve released an Android Monero wallet app.
18:58:35 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> [... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/oqP_gtYKSzF3Y0ls ]
18:59:54 <Cindy_> "License: [Add your license here]"
19:00:30 <br-m> <stormyyy:stormyyy.xyz> @niyid:matrix.org: care to use more whitespace?
19:01:34 <BlueyHealer> Cindy_, not denying. My point was not on the lack of morality, but rather on how it would be a headache for the middleman and no one wants that.
19:01:53 <Cindy_> your app is literally a modified version of https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet
19:02:01 <Cindy_> which btw, you didn't even change the java class names on
19:02:19 <BlueyHealer> XD
19:02:53 <BlueyHealer> kowalabearhugs, a Christmas miracle!
19:02:55 <Cindy_> there's two directories in the src directory
19:03:31 <Cindy_> https://github.com/niyid/apo/blob/main/app/src/main/java/com/techducat/apo/ApoApp.kt
19:03:37 <Cindy_> hardcoded bugfender API key
19:04:06 <Cindy_> "enableUIEventLogging(this)"
19:04:29 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> Thanks a lot! I will make those updates. I don't use BugFender anymore 
19:05:38 <Cindy_> https://github.com/niyid/apo/blob/main/gradle.properties
19:05:43 <Cindy_> chagenow API key here
19:06:43 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> I'm yet to integrate ChangeNOW.
19:06:51 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> "AI" slop, everything was probably hallucinated
19:07:18 <Cindy_> but why leave your API key here
19:07:46 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> stolen email too
19:08:21 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> neeyeed[at]gmail.com is located in around 14 data Breaches
19:08:50 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> It's not a real API key. That has not yet been handled.
19:08:50 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/pull/1013
19:09:02 <Cindy_> you should probably make it more clear that it's a fork of m2049r's xmrwallet
19:09:20 <Cindy_> i wouldn't care if that project's code was like.. a minority in yours
19:09:26 <Cindy_> but rn, it's about 98% of your project
19:09:55 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> > This build was entirely fashioned by Claude Sonnet 4.5 and I merely guided it. I want that piece of information noted.
19:10:13 <Cindy_> niyid: this is a really bad PR, ngl
19:10:17 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> mental disability of severe form
19:10:30 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> please cut your internet cable
19:10:34 <Cindy_> first of all, you made a lot of things that are out of scope of the PR (which is trying to build based on a newer version of NDK and boost
19:10:41 <Cindy_> like adding a CONTRIBUTORS.MD file
19:10:48 <Cindy_> and also... why did you include your build directory
19:10:52 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> And please do redeem too
19:11:09 <Cindy_> https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/pull/1013/files#diff-02113b008dcd859e834e8f7b3d3de232168496f8bc8e11a32857790e345b05eb
19:11:15 <Cindy_> what tf is this qr code
19:11:52 <Cindy_> a random QR code just sitting there
19:12:14 <br-m> <niyid:matrix.org> LOL @ stolen email
19:12:24 <plowsof> Same story here https://bounties.monero.social/posts/24/10-233m-upgrade-monero-integration-to-support-odoo-15 https://github.com/monero-integrations/moneroodoo/pull/19 (merge was reverted)
19:12:43 <Cindy_> okay i just decoded the QR code
19:12:48 <Cindy_> it's.... your wallet address
19:13:00 <Cindy_> why did you put your own wallet address in someone else's project, that sounds kinda rude
19:13:14 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> plowsof: the latter is such a fucking yap
19:13:38 <Cindy_> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/1be353833d1dadabaa196f754be3291437621d72/monero_wallet.png
19:13:46 <Cindy_> this is the QR code i'm referring to in the PR (monero_wallet.png)
19:13:50 <plowsof> Merry christmas 🌲
19:14:22 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Merry scanmas
19:14:55 <Cindy_> when i contribute to a monero project, i don't just sneak a QR code of my wallet in the project :P
19:15:02 <Cindy_> and hope they don't see it in the PR
19:15:10 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> scammas*
19:17:08 <Cindy_> also why do you keep force-pushing
23:13:07 <br-m> <basses:matrix.org> need to be reported on playstore > <@niyid:matrix.org> Hi everyone 👋
23:17:57 <Cindy_> basses: who will even find it
23:18:10 <Cindy_> the name and picture has nothing to do with monero, people will think it's junk
23:34:22 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @basses:matrix.org: Play store is full of garbage anyway (i doubt they care)