00:08:02 so people finally figured out that we live in a surveillance dystopia and now are buying monero? 00:25:34 unlikely 00:44:09 yeah 02:39:46 test 02:39:54 monero.social is back and so is bridge 02:59:52 What did append? 02:59:52 Hamster ran off the wheel and hit the floor at high velocity or? 03:07:04 boy howdy i don't understand federated servers 03:12:52 Federation was working just fine seriously. 03:12:52 But the bridge and a LOT of people are on monero.social so all of theses when out of the matrix 03:28:57 @ravfx:xmr.mx: Some of the services were down for most of the day 03:29:05 Monero.social, repo.getmonero 04:54:56 Sorry for my newbie question, where can i trade with monero? In Binace is no available 06:12:27 you have a binance account? Buy btc or ltc from binance, and swap it for xmr on 06:12:27 * [fastest, no setup] trocador.app or orangefren.com (swappers, centralized) 06:12:27 * btc -> xmr using eigenwallet (atomic swaps) 06:12:27 * ltc -> xmr using basicswap (involved setup required. Atomic swaps)[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/jLWGpdwKT2VoUlNs ] 11:15:45 Hey everyone! =] 11:15:45 I'm having trouble with downloading the Monero blockchain. 11:15:45 Previously, I've used remote nodes. However, recently I started thinking about mining using the official wallet. After reading a bunch of docs, I started downloading the blockchain. I knew that it was going to be slow, but after downloading for about 18 hours I've only completed 12 GiB. This means that, taking into acco[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/iZrdrdwKWWlPajF2 ] 11:19:40 the actual risks is that you'll be on some other fork 11:19:46 rather than the actual main blockchain 11:20:03 the actual risks are that* 11:20:36 Why is that bad? 11:21:05 your node will be "disconnected" from the actual blockchain 11:21:58 also disabling verification means any attacker can shove malformed blocks within the chain that you downloaded 11:22:35 before importing 11:25:31 maxlpm: also btw, you can mine off of a remote node 11:25:48 made my first ever debian bug report https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1125469 11:25:53 p2pool lets you do it, and you can use xmrig 11:26:06 don't upgrade your IRC servers to debian trixie if you run inspircd and have TLS links with self signed certs 11:26:17 you don't have to have a full node unless you're solo-mining 11:26:17 or upgrade but keep inspircd held 11:26:36 Cindy_ really? Is it supported by the official client? 11:26:52 Or only by xmrig 11:27:14 the mining on the official client is just solo-mining 11:27:27 i think 11:27:33 i don't know if they added p2pool yet 11:28:40 There is an option for p2pool, however it says that I need to have the blockchain first 11:30:28 you don't have to 11:30:44 just look at gupax 11:30:50 it lets you mine p2pool off of a remote node 11:38:07 I switched to P2Pool right now in the official wallet and the exact wording is "Your daemon must be synchronized before you can start mining" 11:38:08 When using a remote node there's no "advanced" tab available, so no mining. 11:38:12 I guess I can use xmrig then. Thank you for the help! 11:44:58 use gupax 11:45:06 it'll setup p2pool and xmrig for you 11:45:16 +1 11:45:18 no full local node needed 11:45:23 Gupax makes things extremely simple 11:49:12 Hm? What's different between gupax and xmrig + a p2pool pool? 12:00:23 No difference technically, gupax just abstracts the technical setup parts away behind a couple buttons and input fields 12:01:39 Ah, I'd rather use xmrig then. Thanks! 12:05:28 @maxlpm:tchncs.de: I've dabbled with Oxide Miner recently and had good results 14:11:59

MAGIC is seeking donations to develop fuzzing harnesses to cover the FCMP++ and P2P code. These harnesses help to identify edge cases and memory corruption vulnerabilities that often are hard to discover in traditional code review. Please consider donating 🙏 14:11:59

https://donate.magicgrants.org/monero/projects/fuzzing-monero-2 14:26:07 ack-j wasnt this funded already? 14:27:29 its not showing on https://blocks.p2pool.observer/payments anymore but i recall a large donation cc DataHoarder 14:30:34

Our first fuzzing project was funded last year to develop fuzzing harnesses for the rpc handlers. It was an overwhelming success with which we now have 100% coverage. We recently started a second fuzzing project to work with the same firm and increase coverage of FCMP++ and the peer to peer codebases. 14:30:34

Here is our first fuzzing project: 14:30:34

https://donate.magicgrants.org/monero/projects/fuzzing-monero-rpc 14:36:33 today i had a thought 14:37:37 doesn't the EU provide funding for cryptograhic research? i wonder if they can put pressure on researchers if they determine that it could be used for "anonymity-enhancing cryptocurrencies" 14:37:54 to not accept putting research into a certain field if it could be used* 15:14:08 15:27:29 <@plowsof> its not showing on https://blocks.p2pool.observer/payments anymore but i recall a large donation cc DataHoarder 15:14:18 I can't tell for magic monero fund, they use btcpayserver 15:14:29 so each donation uses own subaddress 15:23:59 DataHoarder: doesn't a view key also reveal payments to subaddresses? 15:24:12 yes. but I don't know subaddress => project mapping 15:24:33 as subaddress is different for each donation, not each project 15:24:51 oh 16:07:36 Holy shit. 720. Crazy 16:08:32 Whoever bought during qubic dump (250) gets the reward 16:10:59 now now, don't get too carried away with the price 16:11:12 it's just the europeans preparing for the EU ban on monero :P 16:11:31 True, it'll go down again some time soonb 16:11:54 the ban is gonna happen a year later 16:12:09 The ban is not on monero 16:12:24 it's for VASP to handle "privacy coins" 16:12:24 the ban is on anonymity-enhancing cryptocurrencies, yes 16:12:38 it's still legal for individuals to use it 16:12:43 CASPs, ATMs, crowdfunding 16:13:25 And when the boomers go to elderly home, the ban will get lifted 16:13:29 🤞 16:13:49 considering where the EU is going, i doubt it 16:14:08 history is a pendulum 16:14:16 italy managed to piss off cloudflare yesterday i think 16:14:20 it never just goes one way 16:14:47 they tried to get cloudflare to agree to banning domains 30 minutes after notice and world-wide 16:15:07 cloudflare obviously disagreed with those rules, and they tried to fine cloudflare for it 16:15:22 lol.. 16:15:25 banning domains at any time btw 16:15:32 within a 30 minute window 16:16:05 That's a fantasy demand 16:16:49 Also, it's silly they still think DNS blocking is an effective measure 16:16:55 they fined cloudflare 14.2 million euros 16:17:23 so cloudflare is considering just cutting all its ties to italy 16:17:31 taking away their servers from italy, terminating contracts, etc. 16:17:33 after the fine 16:17:43 They should do that 16:18:05 What would be even funnier 16:18:17 Yeah, the DNS part surprised me as well! Like, that's barely even a block! 16:18:36 They should prevent anyone that browses from italy to access cloudflare protected webvsites 16:18:50 Like, still worth fighting for. But not a big deal, unlike, say, learning to detect XRay. 16:18:53 that would basically make 30% of the internet inaccessible for italian lawmakers 16:18:58 Disclaimer: this isnt price talk. 16:18:58 usually, during price runups, you have a flood of new or old users showing up. Anyone else curious why its so quiet? 16:19:11 #monero-markets for price 16:19:24 some inflow was had, tbh, but not that much 16:19:35 I wonder how the discord is faring 16:19:51 wow, stagenet is pumping out blocks faster than 2 minutes 16:19:51 eddie, no, whom would that benefit? That would hurt the regular people, those who can do nothing and had no desire for this to happen in the fiest place, so you're just being performatuve. 16:20:16 like one block per 1 minute.. instead of 2 minutes 16:20:45 I feel like terminating the business side of things is way better, because it most prominently hurts those who actually made this happen. 16:20:51 DataHoarder: lots of people with the XMR tag active in the Hyperliquid Discord 16:20:51 I am not personally in the XMR Discord because Discord is the least privacy-preserving social media on the internet 16:21:30 BlueyHealer: they did this btw, all because of their precious rich people who know how to kick balls around 16:21:34 if they terminate the business, the italians that like to use cloudflare are affected too 16:21:51 Discord dont even follow EU GDPR law. they have 10+ year old logs stored, when GDPR only requires 6-24 months 16:21:52 and if they block italy from the internet, that would show who's really in power 16:22:06 oh they can't afford to buy a new rolls royce if everyone's illegally streaming them kicking balls around 16:22:08 But the regular people didn't want this to happen and have no way to stop it from happening! So you'd just be mean for no reason. 16:22:21 That is a terrible idea. 16:22:24 the regular people don't know what cloudflare is.. 16:22:43 Yeah, but they would notice the impact of being blocked by it! 16:22:51 ok, other idea 16:23:03 BlueyHealer: AGCOM also blocked google drive lol 16:23:08 cloudflare can block all internet coming from the AS blocks from the italian government, not regular ISP's 16:23:16 so for all the normal people out there 16:23:24 normal italians, they can't use google drive anymore 16:23:28 if they want they can just target the actual lawmakers that ask for this ban 16:23:44 Cindy: is that so? 16:23:46 Like, they didn't even know what CF was - they couldn't have impacted the decisions made on it. Weird that you'd WANT to make a scrapegoat when CF itself seems more reasonable in its intents. 16:24:24 eddie, I wonder how clear the divide is there. Yeah, that sounds more reasonable. 16:24:39 They'd just circumvent it tho but whatever. 16:25:09 Cindy, can't use it *directly*, idk how used they are to ban evading. 16:25:12 eddie: https://torrentfreak.com/google-drive-blackout-in-italy-after-another-major-anti-piracy-blunder-241020/ 16:25:14 BlueyHealer: do you mean the lawmakers? 16:25:22 lol 16:27:22 the problem here is that european countries have chinese firewalls 16:27:56 wow, italy sure do care a lot about their rich ball-kickers 16:28:07 i haven't seen the NFL or NBA act like this yet 16:28:17 @eddie:oblak.be: EU export DPI firewalls 16:29:02 Cindy: it's from 2024, it's not in effect anymore 16:31:21 ah 16:32:32 0.01 stagenet XMR gone down the void due to crappy code 16:32:41 this is why stagenet exists :D 16:36:06 It's funny how no news is talking about monero during the mooning 16:36:22 if it was bitcoin or zcash moonboys just wouldn't shut up 16:36:45 because we are just not like that 16:36:52 Monero.. means fucking money 16:36:58 not "speculative investment" 16:49:58 Nah I think it's hitting 1k. It's been way undervalued for too long tbh > <@eddie:oblak.be> True, it'll go down again some time soonb 16:54:40 Cindy: i haven't seen the NFL or NBA act like this yet <- From what I understand, sports managers are the ones fighting pirated livestreams the most. 17:30:48 Cindy: what kind of crappy code 17:34:19 Bunnyh: the code that scans for outputs in the blockchain didn't work 17:37:33 i got these XMRs from a taiwanese faucet, i'm not too worried 18:29:33 Seems like every privacy coin is going up. ZEC is 12% and DASH is 59% in 24h 18:30:34 @sbt:nope.chat: dash is a privacy coin ? 18:31:06 it has masternodes 18:31:20 and electrolytes 18:32:35 the only privacy part of DASH is coinjoin 18:33:57 which is like.. as far as i can tell 18:34:19 like multiple users combining their transactions and outputs together into one 18:34:24 @yokoama:matrix.org: Tbh idk I just read about it sometime ago 18:34:38 which is good for not being able to figure out who sent to who??? 18:34:55 i mean DASH still reveals how much you have in your wallet 18:35:10 Cindy: That's still something 18:36:10 it's literally just like a mixer except without the tumbling around and such 18:36:22 i don't know how private it is against blockchan analysis companies 18:44:24 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/dDmDDLwIzCmDPbYircXWIbeX.png (Somebody uploaded this in markets) 18:57:38 that's true 18:57:50 coinjoin doesn't even provide good privacy 18:58:39 It provides insta-tainted coins tho 18:59:20 So, id the idea is "make all btc dirty", than i guess it works. But its a sorry excuse for a privacy tool 19:00:09 a blockchain analysis company can still figure out who sent to who 19:00:18 by checking for recurring addresses 19:01:22 if bob appears in the coinjoin transaction (as sender) often, and if alice appears as a receiver often whenever bob is in the sending side 19:01:44 then you can figure out that bob likes to send to alice 19:02:00 A sane wallet shouldn't be reusing addresses. Rotating addresses is suggested in the bitcoin white paper. 19:10:01 @rucknium: Reusing addresses doesnt really matter if the currency is private and youre interacting with the same party 19:11:26 Rotatinf addresses is necessary in 2 situations: 19:11:26 1. The coin that youre using reveals your balances and history (and future) 19:11:26 2. You want to maintain separate identities within the same wallet 19:12:32 If im paying my landlord, depositing to my dex or cex account, or paying my taxes, theres no benefit to giving me a different address for every transaction 19:12:58 Right. In Dash's case it matters. 19:13:24 Yeah, for sure 19:39:12 $800, no-one happy? 19:42:19 doomp eet 19:44:49 No price talk here 19:45:22 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: based 19:45:25 Hueristic was only here for... 5 minutes 19:45:28 before they left 19:45:45 sad they'll never know this place is not for price talk 22:19:24 @datahoarder:monero.social: ur bridge is down for #monero-markets u fucking retard 22:20:05 there is no bridge there, seems you are accusing others of your own :) 22:20:08 ask plowsof for reasons 22:21:39 seems we got another kitty 22:22:13 i have a vision of opening matrix up and seeing someone join and leaving 22:22:37 > crazybot 22:23:15 plowsof: what's the reason? 22:23:31 crazybot why would you say something so mean btw 22:23:47 what? 22:24:04 why no bridge in #monero-markets lol, idk what's mean about that 22:24:10 datahorder is cool and does a lot of work for the mrl 22:24:18 datahoarder is the best 22:24:28 also he's totally not larping as a girl right now 22:24:37 i'm not him y'know 22:24:48 meanwhile someone else is doing alot of account creation -> room joining and room leaving 22:25:08 Cindy: is she single 👀 22:25:10 the room there is glitched thanks to Matrix. not fixed yet 22:25:12 did u answer tho? 22:25:24 maybe room upgrade would fix it, not up to me 22:25:47 is he single 👀 22:26:17 DataHoarder: in which sense? 22:26:32 some people say i'm not single, because i'm double a person 22:27:54 the room version of markets is 9 if that makes any difference 22:29:51 @plowsof:matrix.org: Well, it's certainly should be upgraded 22:30:36 is that a fat joke 22:32:01 yes 22:57:48 median block size limit is growing :3