00:55:27 hello team 00:59:34 i have a question about acquiring monero. anyone available to chat 02:25:28 always 02:37:21 Hey folks, I've been wanting to buy XMR but I'm not sure if I should purchase XMR with crypto I've purchased from a CEX. I'm concerned my CEX account can get flagged I'm using swap services on my main crypto address 02:37:56 Am I being overly cautious? 02:41:57 you should 02:42:21 move the crypto out of your CEX then do the swap 02:42:43 CEX companies are known to freeze your account immediately and ask questions later in cases of "suspicious activities" 02:43:21 its out of the CEX, but my crypto address is certainly linked with my account. 02:43:30 I have Ether for context 02:44:04 and small (really tiny) amounts 03:01:46 Id use something aside from cex eth 03:02:31 like ltc or btc, since at least those have rotating addresses 03:19:23 how would that make any difference, they still know the addresses are his 03:23:04 hmmm so its even worse to use ETH than BTC? 03:28:28 safe bet XMR -> USDT 03:28:57 feel like thats even worse lol 03:29:13 using a ERC20 token? 03:29:18 nopes 03:29:21 bsc token 03:29:33 ahh I've yet to use bsc 03:29:44 isnt it just another evm? 03:29:55 cheaper on the gas and lot ffaster 03:30:00 yes 03:30:36 sure but is there any improvement to anonymity or privacy to making a transaction like this? (which honestly fuck the feds for making such a basic thing difficult) 03:31:15 sure it does 03:31:44 Yes > hmmm so its even worse to use ETH than BTC? 03:32:04 Eth wallets have a single address with all funds flowing thru them 03:32:42 You can create accounts, but youd still be using tje same static addresses repeatedly 03:33:04 I see I didn't know it was different for BTC. Thanks for the heads up 03:33:20 If you withdraw to youe btc address then send it to a new random address, the cex cant be sure that the new addresses are yours 03:34:35 thats not perfect, but definitely better than ETH 03:34:43 With eth, you end up using the same addresses repeatedly. 03:34:44 Currently most cexes dont really care what you do with the funds after you withdraw them to self custody, but coinbase has flagged accounts for sending funds to bisq or darknet markets after you took custody of it 03:35:47 but you can always just use an atomic swap like eigenwallet or basicswap if youre converting btc or ltc to xmr, respectively 03:36:11 Yeah I guess I'm concerned they'll eventually crack down on XMR users in the future, since they have a ledger of transactions it should be fairly easy. 03:36:37 br-m got a question though...what if you swap using a monero wallet and then push it off chain, nobody cares 03:36:44 Its more of I didn't want to flag my ether address that has all my defi stuff etc to the irs etc 03:36:45 Xmr is private. They dont have a clue what you did with your btc 03:37:10 They knkw you sent a btc transfer, they dont know you bought xmr 03:37:20 DaveFreeman: Yeah, so i wouldnt use kt 03:37:36 Id use the cex to convert the eth to btc or ltc 03:37:41 When you do the atomic swap on BTC, can they tell your doing a swap? 03:37:47 Then swap the btc or ltc to xmr 03:38:23 br-m i am thinking the other way round xmr -> btc 03:39:17 Depends where you get the btc 03:40:02 There are plenty of centralized swappers (like fixedfloat or changenow) that only hold clean btc, so you should be ok there, as long as they accept xmr 03:40:27 Otherwise you use something like retoswap or basicswap to convert the xmr to btc, and risk getting dirty btc 03:40:46 Yeah that was my intent 03:40:56 Or use ltc and run it thru mweb first to try to break whatever link it had to the previous owner 03:43:13 planning to use stack wallet to do the initial swap & then move it offchain 03:43:16 Multiple hops after mweb or else txs will be suspicious 03:47:30 so you mean to say convert it to LTC and then do multiple hops? 03:48:04 Guest69: After mweb 03:48:37 Why would you swap xmr though? 03:48:56 need to encash, private reasons 03:49:46 LTC on ltc network or BSC network? 03:52:30 the wallet i am trying to use doesnt support mweb 03:54:24 point me to an wallet that supports mweb 03:58:11 is there a private pool to swap the XMR to LTC using mweb 04:00:21 Guest69: cakewallet , nexus wallet 04:01:58 cake wallet doesnt support mweb 04:02:24 i mean they have vendors but not available in my geo 04:04:22 see my preferred path to encash to Tether on BSC chain, is there any way to go about this 04:05:01 specially if there exists a pool to feed in, XMR feed in USDT(BSC) feed out 04:05:43 if i could tap into that pool feed 04:06:09 it would be cleaner, faster and gas efficient on all sides 04:06:38 nexus wallet doesnt help my cause 04:09:54 or a privaye buyer looking for xmr might help 04:26:44 I've seen some good offers on retoswap at the current price 04:29:03 https://haveno.markets/market/LTC 04:30:22 https://haveno.markets/market/LTC LTC doesnt work for me 04:32:21 retoswap might work 04:32:27 checking it 04:35:34 You can try their new phone app if you're on android, It worked as expected so far for me 04:37:37 If you don't find any suitable offers for you, you could just create one and keep the app in the background 04:40:07 okay 04:40:36 i dont see options for USDT(BEP20) 14:57:50 I put a + on retoswap