02:45:23 @ravfx:xmr.mx: How did you know about our humiliation fetish 02:57:50 @death757toz:matrix.org: They did not try to ban it 07:04:37 Is there a way to check if my funds in monero is kyc or not? Like tracing it with xmrchain. My question is how do we know the fund that were holding is private or how much private 07:10:50 Fundamentally impossible. How can I check whether the NSA knows what I did on saturday ? 07:25:03 They have not responded to my FOIA request yet :( 07:29:13 "Dear plowsof, Your FOIA request has been duly recorded, along with any DNA and fingerprints found on the envelope, an analysis of the composition of the dust found on said envelope recording the path it took to reach us, and a log of detailed interviews of everyone who handled that letter along the way". 07:43:26 moneromooo: It seems anyone can track anyone with the right tools like mempool. So if we know what are the tools available then at least we can try using those tools to check ourselves if we left any traces . 07:48:50 @berry.stiller-2w:matrix.org, a modest proposal: Maybe inform yourself first a bit about the properties of Monero, and the important differences between Bitcoin and Monero? 07:50:04 "It seems anyone can track anyone". No. 08:00:04 @rbrunner7: I'm trying to master this while using it. What should I be reading to get better at it? 08:05:34 This might be a good start: https://masteringmonero.com/ 08:38:29 "goes into some details regarding cryptographic elements" It goes into almost all details that are relevant to Monero. If you read that, and also understand it, you are halfway towards becoming a cryptographer. I tried to read it and understood about half. 08:42:55 And most of that will become more or less obsolete within a year or less, when Monero gets a brand new crypto foundation with FCMP++ and Carrot which is only, oh, maybe 5 times as complex as the current tech? 08:45:34 Indeed, hopefully a new edition will be created 09:53:57 ravfx: Yes, std btc txs reveal the pubkey. PQ, you can extract a pvt key from a pubkey on secp251k, so once you reveal your pubkey thru spending, all future btc sent to that address are effectively spendable by anyone with a fast enough QC. 11:51:58 @rbrunner7: It looks great. I’m gonna buy and read it. Thanks for the suggestion. 11:57:51 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/ErmFXLGfJLikcauMWKBmoMHx.png (IMG_9901.png) 11:57:51 Just purchased. Reading it now 17:14:23 Throwaway account here. Looks like there are shills on reddit/cryptocurrency and on twitter. Any mention of XMR will be downvoted to kingdom come or wont get eyeballs. Just a heads up. 17:24:36 😁 > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> They did not try to ban it 17:25:02 šŸ™šŸ» 23:54:21 Why does everyone always get quiet when I talk 23:55:38 Because we're polite