01:57:58 <br-m> <321bob321> @dancer: Do i  have to wait 4hrs for it ?
01:59:17 <br-m> <321bob321> @ofrnxmr: Only room it hasnt been annouced in
03:43:37 <geonic> elongated: ha. fun times
03:48:59 <Guest29> Hi is there a fork of Monero that has a fixed supply like Bitcoin?
03:51:10 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> wownero
03:53:36 <snake> Guest29: zcash has a fixed supply. 21 million
03:53:57 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Ok, nobody asked
03:54:08 <Guest29> br-m: Thanks :)
03:54:08 <snake> yeah i guess thats a fork of bitcoin
03:55:36 <Guest29> snake I heard that nobody really uses zcash, I don't know why.
03:55:47 <snake> its because they're using xmr
03:57:49 <Guest29> I wish xmr had a fixed supply, it would make it more like gold and other hard money.
04:01:42 <snake> fiat currencies like the dollar get inflated from credit, instead of from a reward for doing useful work like processing transactions. so it's not that bad actually
04:03:10 <snake> the block reward i mean, is not so bad that it hit a floor
04:03:11 <Guest29> snake in that case why hasn't xmr overtaken btc?
04:03:15 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Gold isnt a limited supply
04:03:41 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Guest29: for the same reason that nothing has
04:04:10 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> bitcoin is a cucked industry coin, pumped by leverage and usdt pri|lnting
04:05:29 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its also like a cult
04:06:16 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Btc maxis dont care about technicals, usability, etc. Its all about blind/ignorant "number go up"
04:06:28 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> No better than a pyramid or ponzi
04:07:23 <Guest29> Okay
04:11:38 <Guest29> I wouldn't care so much if xmr was accepted in more places and bitcoin's lack of privacy really annoys me. I wish we could have the best of both worlds.
04:12:02 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Xmr is accepted in many, many place
04:12:07 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> monerica.com
04:13:00 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Ofc there is still a lot of work to do on adoption, but its not bad
04:14:26 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> We need to run Ai agents to push monero to merchants
04:20:41 <br-m> <321bob321> They just havent found all the gold yet
04:23:06 <Guest29> There's no gift card sites that accept Monero in my country.
04:24:33 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> Start contacting them
04:40:22 <Guest29> See you all later, thanks for your help. :-)
06:20:53 <br-m> <reedmarin:unredacted.org> Guest29: "Best of both worlds" implies that tail emission is inferior to fixed supply. It is not; it is a way to safeguard network security long into the future. There will be a point when BTC block rewards will be insufficient or nonexistent, and BTC will have to raise the 21M cap or be in big trouble. The only disadvantage o [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/iJPD44YLeThVbmwz ]
07:09:39 <br-m> <albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> What is the current size of the unpruned node? I  have machines that have about 400GB of SSD available.
07:11:23 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> Approx 275gb, 400gb is okay for a few years
07:13:04 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> Unless we are spammed after fcmp
08:02:41 <br-m> <albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> If it doesn’t fit anymore, I will switch to a pruned node
08:28:33 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> @albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr: Copy to new drive n resume
08:59:58 <br-m> <albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> I got the machine for free, I don't want to invest money into it
09:01:51 <br-m> <basses:matrix.org> https://donatemonero.org/
09:02:55 <br-m> <basses:matrix.org> only issue is that the website displays the donation QR code (which is very convenient), but if it ever gets hacked or other malicious reasons, it could be easily swapped
09:06:00 <br-m> <stnby:kernal.eu> What the scam is this? All of those subaddresses prob lead to the same wallet :D
09:09:45 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> Lmao
09:11:03 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> ofrn clicks sethforprivacy = 42uDZuVw13kSCf6BFFWanFcofAvCjMeatf3zzA6Gbms7UDgwB6rd6hLYAyP985YoyLdsa8NwhSgtH6dWadw7TeXiTHaMQS8 -> clicks "verify address" link that transfers you to seths website = 87gUQL4XAmfaUXNviEwNiM2EnQkNPuEdYEZP1SWj4BoWLgcTeEpcuqcJZHaiMaSqY5jPkGaXcAgVA8GtvHtg3fv5GgfeTDp
09:11:14 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> https://donatemonero.org/project/sethforprivacy.html
09:18:28 <br-m> <basses:matrix.org> lmao
09:20:19 <br-m> <basses:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: actually it is from https://optoutpod.com/donate/
09:20:35 <br-m> <basses:matrix.org> so it is indeed from seth
09:21:09 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> the site author didnt verify their own addresses+links
09:21:10 <br-m> <basses:matrix.org> googled the address (this technique may end after enshitification by AI)
09:22:33 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> its part of the vibe coding coalition who currently have 2 projects (the donate monero is one of them) :P https://monerocoalition.org/
09:26:20 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> @basses:matrix.org: It’s silent payments by Seth
09:26:45 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> Much privacy
09:28:07 <br-m> <elongated:matrix.org> Jk aside silent payment on monero would be so much better 😅
09:28:22 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> @basses:matrix.org: Not the point
09:28:45 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> The point is that seth changed his address, and the website lists an old one, or one that their ai found
09:28:52 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> Cant trust that shit at all
14:48:43 <br-m> <ct:xmr.mx> I am quite pessimistic on home compute. Industry is clearly moving into a direction where they'd rather rent you compute, and limit supply/ artificially increase prices to make small scale owing of HW not economically viable.
14:48:44 <br-m> <ct:xmr.mx> For most people, the impact won't be that huge, they'd still offer low end clients equivalent to today's compute - but the share of higher end systems in the general population will decline I think.
14:48:44 <br-m> <ct:xmr.mx> What does worry me however that this this reduces the decentralization of randomX even more then it is right now, while at the same time data centers have an ever increasing share of the compute pie.[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/0-6G8oYLUTZhMWVp ]
15:33:36 <br-m> <pyratevevo:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: Vibe coding coalition is grim.
15:40:20 <br-m> <pyratevevo:matrix.org> @ct:xmr.mx: It's an interesting subject for sure. Not even one year after it first came to my attention, the concept of killing home compute and traditional PC ownership, I remember thinking this was far fetched and nothing I found showed proper intent. Now you have billion dollar CEOs saying it to everyone's faces...
15:40:28 <ro1m> Happy late Memorial Day
15:52:01 <br-m> <kiersten5821:matrix.org> why do you think nothing happened to xmr price after the retoswap nuke > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Btc maxis dont care about technicals, usability, etc. Its all about blind/ignorant "number go up"
15:52:41 <br-m> <kiersten5821:matrix.org> 95% of xmr depends on kucoin
15:52:55 <br-m> <kiersten5821:matrix.org> meanwhile monero guys saying "binance delisting had no effect on price"
15:59:20 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> At least we are finally back over the Binance pump, it only took 2 years
15:59:28 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/tLUeCRtVWVjNUMjlmSlvOEeZ.png ({A96904D4-D279-4ECF-8979-054139C4BD3C}.png)
18:09:47 <br-m> <latmed83:matrix.org> does anyone know why moner.org cant sync to local daemon
18:30:57 <br-m> <assholeorangecat:matrix.org> @kiersten5821:matrix.org: Well technically the price went up after the official delisting. It's just weak hand binance bros sold for cheap in anticipation of the delisting instead of just moving their monero into self custody where it belongs.
18:31:33 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> Price went down for about two years
18:31:56 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> agains bitcorn
18:32:39 <br-m> <kiersten5821:matrix.org> @assholeorangecat:matrix.org: theres literally a chart 2 messages above yours
18:49:34 <br-m> <reallyunhinged:matrix.org> Top comment was paid by Vik Sharma. https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1opli92/million_downloads_of_cake_wallet_a_personal/
18:53:09 <br-m> <reallyunhinged:matrix.org> His "marketing manager" is refusing to answer these questions on X: https://xcancel.com/vikrantnyc/status/2059130928866247022#m and blocking users.
18:54:48 <br-m> <reallyunhinged:matrix.org> Based solely on observations she lost it when asked what "position" she was in when she got the job and started blocking users.
18:57:15 <moneromooo> It's a company. Their sole reason to exist is to make money.
18:57:35 <moneromooo> Well, an assumption, but given what they did, a fair one.
19:34:55 <br-m> <reallyunhinged:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/MGyqwvgEsZQpeVDcuWFNGiJX.jpeg (viklols.jpeg)
20:24:24 <kraze> hi
20:31:49 <br-m> <reallyunhinged:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/RQtLEpBfgxzujnxlEFRfCmEe.jpeg (paid.jpeg)
22:11:25 <br-m> <pyratevevo:matrix.org> Wasn't $160 the lowest it got after the big delisting wave ? That was the floor. I reckon it's more than that now, maybe $200... > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> At least we are finally back over the Binance pump, it only took 2 years
22:11:44 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> @pyratevevo:matrix.org: I don't compare it to toilet paper, I compare it to the competition
22:12:15 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> and 379$ today is less than 379$ 5 years ago
22:14:53 <br-m> <pyratevevo:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: I see.
22:50:47 <br-m> <assholeorangecat:matrix.org> @kiersten5821:matrix.org: Didn't look closely at that chart. I just researched it one more time seems my memory is partially wrong of the timeline "Binance announced the delisting in early February 2024; trading in XMR was removed on Feb 20, 2024. Withdrawals remained supported until Sept 1, 2024, after which Binance began converting remaining XMR balances to USDC"
22:55:26 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> @assholeorangecat:matrix.org: The chart is xmr/btc
22:59:15 <br-m> <assholeorangecat:matrix.org> oh wait no I remember correctly yeah I gues it technically made a lower low on xmr/btc but the low on usd was in february eh close enough 100$ was a fair price
22:59:22 <br-m> <ofrnxmr> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/bhCUDGXGmmJfPjJfeOOzexko.jpg (This is what it looks like in toilet paper)
23:00:38 <br-m> <assholeorangecat:matrix.org> it's strongest toilet paper in the world there's like multiple layers to it :P
23:02:49 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> Multi ply
23:12:43 <br-m> <321bob321> Finger ply