17:12:47 <nioc> lez go  https://ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required/
20:10:27 <br-m> <lunar:lunarian.cfd> How can I buy monero at fiat easily without kyc?
20:10:32 <br-m> <lunar:lunarian.cfd> I don't have any other crypto
20:11:22 <br-m> <olaola260:matrix.org> @lunar:lunarian.cfd: Use Haveno
20:11:31 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Do you have monero?
20:11:36 <br-m> <luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org> @lunar:lunarian.cfd: Bisq is another option
20:11:53 <br-m> <luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org> @olaola260:matrix.org: haveno recently was hacked, not best choice if u ask me .
20:12:16 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org: bisq was hacked a few daya before haveno.
20:12:27 <br-m> <luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: for real ?
20:12:30 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes
20:12:40 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Lost like 11 btc
20:13:04 <br-m> <olaola260:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
20:13:30 <br-m> <fluorescent_beige:matrix.org> In the same way? (Since Haveno is a Bisq clone)
20:14:02 <br-m> <luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: wait you held btc on bisq or haveno ? why ?
20:14:28 <br-m> <luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org> dude that's a fortune though, why so reckless acting with money ?
20:14:35 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> https://bisq.network/blog/security-incident-post-mortem/
20:14:46 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org: Not me, bisq
20:15:27 <br-m> <luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: oh shit, so bisq lost 11 btc ? that sucks.
20:15:35 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> > Total losses amounted to 11.59104 BTC.
20:16:43 <br-m> <luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: see now dude, that suck. anyways back to the fella who asked.
20:17:34 <br-m> <luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org> @lunar:lunarian.cfd: well depends aparently where u live, coz you might live in a country where ATMs YET don't require KYC and that might be a solution.
20:18:16 <br-m> <luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org> I know some of european countries apparenrtly have no KYC on ATMs but that is bout to change on 1st July though.
20:23:03 <br-m> <lunar:lunarian.cfd> No > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Do you have monero?
20:23:26 <br-m> <lunar:lunarian.cfd> I've sent a offer but seems like no one wants to sell me > <@luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org> Bisq is another option
20:31:36 <br-m> <luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org> @lunar:lunarian.cfd: yep, sadly people used to use a corporate shiny shit like MEXC or Binance or shit like that. 
20:32:15 <br-m> <luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org> @lunar:lunarian.cfd: btw, is there an crypto ATM in your nearby you could use it KYC-free ?
22:37:36 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> @luftie_the_anonymous:matrix.org: Hey it's me from my other account because my homeserver shit itself
22:37:38 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> Uh sadly no
22:49:53 <br-m> <kiersten5821:matrix.org> he's pumping now > <@hbs:matrix.org> Maybe the person who got the 7000 or so XMR from RetoSwap is dumping?
22:51:16 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> How do you guys buy xmr?
22:51:54 <br-m> <pyratevevo:matrix.org> @lunar:nope.chat: Get your hands on another crypto and swap.
22:52:17 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> @pyratevevo:matrix.org: I can't do that without kyc 😭
22:53:11 <br-m> <pyratevevo:matrix.org> @lunar:nope.chat: RetoSwap is your best bet. Get ready to be taken advantage of though with terrible rates.
22:53:52 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Have to make dues with using bybit, some local exchanges and so on, not exactly a non-KYC route
22:53:53 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> @pyratevevo:matrix.org: Funnily I can't get into retoswap
22:53:54 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> Tor never connects
22:54:06 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> Even though orbot or Tor can just connect fine
22:54:22 <br-m> <pyratevevo:matrix.org> Happens to me half the time I launch it too.
22:54:52 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> @pyratevevo:matrix.org: Android app gets stuck at initializing wallet
22:54:54 <br-m> <pyratevevo:matrix.org> Maybe there's someone on XMRBazaar who can trade XMR with you.
22:55:44 <br-m> <pyratevevo:matrix.org> Android app is asking for trouble, it's still being worked on afaik. Try from the desktop
22:56:14 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> @pyratevevo:matrix.org: Desktop isn't any better
22:56:21 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> Just says couldn't connect to Tor without any logs
22:56:35 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> I tried to run it on my Linux machine
22:56:46 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> @lunar:nope.chat: Probably a state-dependant thing, maybe you need to use a bridge, hard to tell
22:56:47 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> There was no arm release
22:57:08 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> @gan:skhron.org: I can connect fine without a bridge on Tor browser, or orbot only happens on retoswap
22:57:11 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> Tried bridges too
22:57:19 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> Wont connect
22:58:02 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> @pyratevevo:matrix.org: I'll check that
22:58:57 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> Lol
22:58:59 <br-m> <lunar:nope.chat> Found someone
23:01:43 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Oh okay, it's probably fine shitting itself on its own then > <@lunar:nope.chat> I can connect fine without a bridge on Tor browser, or orbot only happens on retoswap