08:11:23 <agent314> hi, where is this 2.0 haveno-reto client that i need to connect to the client, anyone knows? only thing i see on here https://retoswap.com/ is a link to haveno-v1.6.0-linux-x86_64.AppImage
09:52:09 <br-m> <hbs:matrix.org> agent314: doesn't exist, it is meant to halt operations
09:52:56 <br-m> <321bob321> 1.6 is last
11:02:56 <br-m> <pawism:frei.chat> Retoswap is halting operations???
11:03:35 <br-m> <pyratevevo:matrix.org> @pawism:frei.chat: Due to an exploit, yes.
11:03:51 <br-m> <pawism:frei.chat> Is it going to be alright??
11:04:10 <br-m> <pyratevevo:matrix.org> Yeah just give it time.
11:04:33 <br-m> <pyratevevo:matrix.org> It is rather unfortunate though, second exploit in like one month (?).
12:36:21 <br-m> <321bob321> Opensauce= safe
12:36:30 <br-m> <321bob321> No audit
12:38:07 <br-m> <absinthium:4d2.org> @pawism:frei.chat: *crying
15:06:50 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> is there a way to convert a 12 word monero seed into 16 word or 25 word seed ?
15:59:38 <br-m> <db58:matrix.org> @kevino:tchncs.de: you can create a new one and migrate your funds
16:00:16 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> well i know about that
16:01:20 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> is there a difference in what type of seed i use , 12 or 16 word with respect to their security/safety ?
16:04:59 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 12 word monero seed?
16:05:18 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> cake's bip..whatever seed? 
16:05:20 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the legacy seed should be shown on the backup apge
16:05:21 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> page*
16:34:44 <br-m> <sadgirlava:catgirl.cloud> Can't you send cash via mail from a mailbox far away from where you live, with a fake name and return address, and just hope it gets to the destination? > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> you cant really use retoswap without some form of kyc, whether that be address, banking info (including real name and account numbers, obv)
16:35:00 <br-m> <yushanren:matrix.org> 16 is the new standard?
16:35:14 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> yes
16:35:17 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> 16 is polyseed and the best one
16:35:44 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> @sadgirlava:catgirl.cloud: cash by mail is the most anon way of getting XMR
16:35:54 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> Sam Bent was really creative with return addresses
16:36:05 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> Cash at atm on haveno dont require kyc (just put random in the forms). The problem is more to find peers to trade with
16:36:11 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> he just used the sex offender registry for his drug packet return addresses
16:36:20 <br-m> <yushanren:matrix.org> Why 25 is not better than 16? It’s longer
16:37:53 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> they have similar actual randomness and 16 encodes the restore height
16:37:55 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @sadgirlava:catgirl.cloud: how do you receive it?
16:37:56 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> receiving cash is a lot harder than sending it
16:38:58 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> one method that does work for anon receiving: get a $15 mailbox at home depot, bolt it on to a social housing project building (nobody gives a shit there), send a test letter to it -> it arrives? gg, anon receive address
17:19:05 <br-m> <riceandbeans:matrix.org> Why would you want smart contracts let alone something as insecure as EVM? > <@kiersten5821:matrix.org> the thing that would fix 99% of monero's decentralized trading problems is a wrapped monero on eth
17:29:21 <br-m> <monerobull:matrix.org> there is wXMR on ETH by a shitty third tier CEX
17:33:20 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: thanks 👍
18:02:56 <br-m> <moneromavrick:matrix.org> This thing working
18:03:36 <br-m> <doldor:matrix.org> Hello
18:42:32 <br-m> <reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> hi @moneromavrick:matrix.org  btw
19:21:42 <br-m> <rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Ew, easiest block of the day.
19:21:54 <br-m> <rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Take the trash out...
19:22:59 <br-m> <moneromavrick:matrix.org> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: Oh its you jew
19:27:31 <br-m> <doldor:matrix.org> @moneromavrick:matrix.org: Goy goy goy goy