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motivational quote of the day: "Men of perverse opinion do not know the excellence of what is in their hands, till some one dash it from them." 15:54:36

anyways, moneroforum offline for few hours now, no clue if there was an announcement or what, idk if will be back online or what, been expecting it to be short lived anyways, like everything being made nowadays, ephemeral type things... 15:54:56

then https://wowneroforum.com went offline at same time as well, no clue on what's up with that either, so i guess o7 lol 16:14:21 @gaming-research-lab:4d2.org: The onion service is working. 16:15:40 Even the clearnet site is working. Maybe it was fixed just now. 16:16:51 might of been a masked phishing URL. hope you didn't check the site via the banned users comment 16:17:30 The the banned user is spacekitty 16:17:52 Not the type to post phishing links, just an unhinged troll 16:18:03 ya I recall the name 16:34:38 giving kitties a bad name 16:34:40 so sad 16:38:29

being an unhinged troll still better than being literal legit scammers, $3k for a whole year of work declined by both of you scammers (while doing thousands of hours of work, done for free), i see the doxxing is back on too, let's play games then, yall scammers want war, well, congratz 16:38:30

fuck off nioc 17:45:02 Anyone have recommendations on transfering XMR to usd? 17:49:07 Yes 17:49:53 ro1m: You can share me a screenshot if you want an assistant 17:50:05 Pardon me? 17:50:33

ro1m: https://retoswap.com they released their newer version recently: https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto/releases/ 17:53:08 ro1m: Don’t you want to exchange your xrm to usd 17:53:12 I will look into that, thanks! 17:53:27 Who is chainlinkbot? 17:53:53 Anyways, haveno-shill don't feel like really looking into it a ton right now, wish there was a more "official" way to do it 17:54:22

ro1m: lol no clue 17:54:28 That’s more official way to do it 17:54:29

ro1m: haveno IS the official way tho, multiple years in the work 17:54:49 What i meant is properly made by the same team that made monero 17:55:13

it has been made by the same team that made monero yea 17:55:23

look the contributors on github, literally same people 17:55:33 ro1m: Should I text you privately 17:55:41 chainlinkbot no 17:55:47 I can assist you 17:56:07 okay, and how? no, I'm not sending you my XMR 17:56:16 haveno-shill doesn't look like it to me 17:56:21 Chainlinkbots is my trading company standard of Onchain finance 17:56:28 ro1m: lol 17:56:33

ro1m: well, Haveno (the software) is over there: https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno (monero contributors), reto is the network for it 17:57:06 Why whould you do such 17:57:10

that's just how haveno works, there is the software but you cant do nothing with just the software so there needs to be a network for it, which the network for it has been retoswap running for 2 years now 17:57:23 why don't they build it into the monero gui or something 17:57:42 I'm just being picky at this point 17:57:59 ro1m: You don’t have to send your money to me either or anyone 17:58:10 @chainlinkbot sorry but I'm not interested 17:58:29 ro1m: Sieye hmm 17:58:40 I understand you now 17:58:45 You’re skeptical 17:59:05

u do be being picky lol, being yea, would be nice, is just... even that way its a way for haveno devs to work on the software without risky prison time for working on decentralized technologies (lots of devs been unjustely sentence because of work on those technologies...), so, haveno team built the software, then networks have to be run on top of it, that's complex but the world is complex u know 17:59:06 I don't know one person on the face of this earth that wouldn't be skeptical 17:59:43 " that's complex but the world is complex u know" yep, I will look into it though, thanks 18:00:11 ro1m: You’re right 18:00:36 ro1m: I can give you a video call 18:00:46 haveno-shill I think honestly the easiest way to do it is just send it to a kraken wallet 18:00:57 chainlinkbot come on man, I'm not interested 18:01:04 I appreciate the help though 18:01:54

ro1m: kraken is kyc'd tho, with haveno you dont have to send you ID scan and all of that (which, for example coinbase literally sold off their customer data and kyc data info...), avoiding kyc is just the way 18:01:59 @haveno-shill:matrix.org probably Jeff the scammer 18:02:38

@pw:xmr.mx: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=qkBx0gMGuhY 18:03:10 No, it isn't > <@haveno-shill:matrix.org> haveno IS the official way tho, multiple years in the work 18:03:23 @haveno-shill:matrix.org: Have you forgotten it’s not fully decentralized exchange 18:03:34 No, they are not > <@haveno-shill:matrix.org> it has been made by the same team that made monero yea 18:03:35 Still cex 18:03:51

@chainlinkbot:matrix.org: whatever, that's the solution that works for now 18:04:27 @haveno-shill:matrix.org: Avoiding kyc won’t help but I love my dapp wallet so much 18:04:38 Keeping my data private 18:04:46

@jpk68:matrix.org: so build your own solution then, fully decentralized, where you at on that? 18:05:12 glowing explorer is doing that 18:05:23 well Claude ks4 18:06:10 Everyone is avoiding (AML) 18:06:34 @haveno-shill:matrix.org: I didn't say it wasn't good, Haveno is good. But it isn't official (??) 18:06:41 who is chainlinkbot? lol 18:07:05 @haveno-shill:matrix.org: I didn't say it was bad, I said it's not official 18:07:07 nioc: That’s the name of the company I’m working for 18:07:08

@jpk68:matrix.org: who gives a shit about semantics anyways, like for real lol 18:07:50 probably setvin 😆 18:08:02 video call lolol 18:08:41 the only thing official is xmr<>xmr 18:08:45

o7 18:08:52

cya yall 18:09:04 🤔 ai agent with a goal? 18:10:54 Nuts, why did my message send twice 18:12:30

https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/tFrNEAMrJDrcaNkzIdQyaepn.png (image.png) 18:12:32

@jpk68:matrix.org: everything sending twice everywhere seems like 18:12:48 IRC works 18:16:10 @jpk68:matrix.org: nothing sending twice here though? 18:16:59 My fault, I sent the same message twice with slightly different wording because didn't send, but then both got sent... 18:58:48 what do y'all use to have persistent message history + message history when you are offline? y'all use a matrix server or something? 18:59:43 we're just not offline 18:59:57 I use a bouncer that is online for me 19:00:07 I run https://thelounge.chat/ on a server 19:00:14 And I’m in the Matrix room 19:21:15 ro1m: any bouncer would work on IRC 23:38:56 How to use AI to learn and try things about Monero and to understand the full code