01:10:17 they have their own fdroid repo for cake wallet. But the builds are not verifyable due to the api keys being kept secret in the build process. > <@einliterflasche2:matrix.org> Nevermind, they're not. But they are on Accrescent 01:44:34 coinsbee started requiring a MEMO for Monero payments and it’s kinda weird. It’s base64 which decodes to payment|<32 char string separated by 4 -‘s> 01:44:52 How does that work? 01:46:52 It doesn’t make any sense 04:54:31 https://thorchain.org/ 04:54:44 Anyone else excited for the Monero integration in THORChain? 04:56:36 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/QBjxZVqROjawDKfrJUkzGNUV.png (soon.png) 05:14:27 @laina24:matrix.org: Yes, can't wait for the next shutdown 05:18:01 @laina24:matrix.org: by the way, would you happen to know if THORChain will integrate the legacy Monero chain or the fork planned for July 1st? 05:24:40 <321bob321> We hardfork every week 08:53:46 Hi everyone 12:43:29 Hey guys 12:44:04 I need friends 12:44:07 And also people who are interested in trading 13:03:10 Hi guys, I've got a question: with Ethereum planning to adopt privacy in its roadmap using superior zk proofs, what is the point of Monero in the future? Ethereum has solved the mining issue with PoS, has almost solved scalability, and will soon solve privacy. Will Monero be obsolete? 13:05:54 @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: ethereum is so useful that it hasn't even been able to make new high this bull run... 13:07:49 ethereum is over priced. it doesn't deserve #2. 13:07:49 layer 2 ethereum based chains like arbitrium have proven to have no decentralization 13:08:08 @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: I'm focused on longevity and utility over price. When I say Ethereum, I mean the entire token ecosystem, not just ETH. Privacy enabled stablecoins on Ethereum would be superior to Monero, so I'm wondering how Monero is actually faring in comparison 13:09:20 @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: L2s are old news. The whole point of the Glamsterdam upgrade and others is to scale the L1 13:10:02 well they are part of the ecosystem you praised 13:11:35 others want to be Monero.. only Monero will be Monero. 13:12:22 fxckn eth. 13:13:24 @pw:xmr.mx: eth is a meme at this point 13:14:02 @pw:xmr.mx: However, if Ethereum adopts privacy, why would anyone continue to use Monero? Wouldn't developers migrate to Ethereum due to its better funding? Achieving Zcash level privacy without the drawbacks associated with that coin poses a serious threat to Monero. How will Monero catch up? Furthermore, what is Monero c [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/l5inw5ALdktoYjNy ] 13:15:19 Ethereum is currently addressing or close to resolving all of these issues, whereas I have not seen any recent updates regarding Monero 13:16:21 @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: Anyone who's been in crypto long enough knows altcoins are just a trading opportunity. 13:16:21 Monero, like Bitcoin, actually has real utility and no guru leader.... 13:16:25 zcash isn't 'private' and is also just a hype. 13:16:25 Monero doesn't need to 'catch up' to anything. 13:16:25 Monero is plenty of ideas and work in the pipeline. also things like FMCP++ and CARROT 13:17:10 The last time I checked, this chain was being attacked by Qubic, and no one was doing anything to stop it. People were also against PoS, which would solve the issue 13:17:38 Monero has use like a currency. with privacy. 13:17:38 Bitcoin is more of an investment/trade coin. sure it is also used for purchases but are mainly transparent 13:18:08 @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: because people knew Qubic was a joke... look how that turned out. 13:18:16 @pw:xmr.mx: I heard about FCMP++ and CARROT being in development three years ago. Are they still in development? 🤣 13:18:51 @pw:xmr.mx: The chain is still vulnerable 13:19:04 ok bro hodl eth 13:19:23 @pw:xmr.mx: Bitcoin died a long time ago. They hate hard forks 13:19:58 you would rather things her pushed out half finished leaving exploits and vulnerabilities? completion and stability takes time. 13:19:58 time takes people giving it up. which in turn needs contribution/wages. 13:20:32 @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: Stop with the moonboy brain. I don't care about the ETH token. I care about the Ethereum chain itself, which has many tokens one can hold, including stablecoins 13:20:47 @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: lol yeah definitely dead 13:20:48 ETH is just used for gas and securing the network 13:21:23 don't be angry ETH is 50% lower than its 2021 ATH. 13:21:39 They are essentially finished, and have been for quite some time > <@jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> I heard about FCMP++ and CARROT being in development three years ago. Are they still in development? 🤣 13:21:41 ask trump to pump it. 13:22:05 If you care about price and trading a lot, crypto is dead for that now... everyone has moved on to stocks and the AI bubble 13:22:08 But deploying such code on mainnet needs a lot of testing, audits, etc 13:22:20 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Where can I track the progress? 13:22:26 #monero-stressnet:monero.social 13:22:38 Hey who's heard of the leans and earn sector ? 13:22:42 not everyone risks collateral in trading. 13:22:46 And github.com/setaphis-migration/monero 13:22:58 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I haven't seen any updated Monero roadmaps lately, which makes me think this chain is dead 13:23:01 XMR is a is able currency 13:23:19 @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: See the room details for the stressnet block explorer and monitors 13:23:32 @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: Beta.monerodevs.org 13:23:41 Monero is dead. RIP /s 13:23:55 @pw:xmr.mx: Lol why did you say that 13:23:57 If you want to be a troll, go do it somewhere else 13:24:03 @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: I don't see the point in coming here and complaining? 13:24:15 @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: @mrharrystyles:matrix.org 13:24:24 https://beta.monerodevs.org/resources/roadmap/ This is all I needed 13:24:28 isn't jimmyhendrix dead? 13:24:29 Meanwhile, there are ~20 people running and using fcmp++ and carrot already on the stressnet 13:24:39 Carrot is live on mainnet in salvium chain 13:27:31 https://gist.github.com/tevador/639d083c994c1ef9401832c08e2b7832 13:28:05 all this mention of carrot making me fancy some carrot and humus 13:28:07 ETA on Jamtis? 13:29:40 @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: You trade ETH 13:29:42 ? 13:31:16 @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: I want to track where actual productivity is happening in crypto. Almost everything nowadays is garbage, with an exclusive focus on price or memes. I'm interested in chains that address scalability, privacy, quantum resistance and mining with sufficient decentralization. Bitcoin rarely gets update [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/tZzmw5ALeTlKS2Ny ] 13:31:27 @mrharrystyles:matrix.org: No, I'm fortunate enough that I never have to trade again 13:33:42 good way to check is to see meetings held regularly https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues?q=is%3Aissue 13:33:58 which have logs posted from IRC after some while 13:34:39 @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: bitcoin is very well maintained, check the github repo and you'll see 13:38:42 DataHoarder: Where are these meetings held? 13:38:54 irc, on the respective channels 13:39:03 see each one, they list a location 13:39:23 I see thanks 13:48:15 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/uLcJrZfisXcyEjgsOokULuuA.png (Hey guys who's in free trade signals and training ) 13:48:55 #monero-offtopic 13:50:10 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/uEQzdBWDXMWVFybLnAiIAVhM.jpg (Who's in let's make some dollars) 13:50:57 🔨 13:51:47 it was a placed ad for some trading thing? 13:52:09 engaged in some convo till ad dropped 18:37:32 @jimmyhendrix1995: Last time I checked, Ethereum is mostly developed by MBAs 18:38:07 Price matters a lot more to them than "privacy", especially since if they adopt privacy, they'll get delisted from CEXs like Monero is rn 18:38:16 Which will cripple their price 18:47:35 What is the context for this? 18:48:02 Also, I'd feel like even without the regulation hurdles, it'd be hard to integrate privacy features without having them built into the foundation... 18:51:52 * br-m waits for something to trigger BlueyHealer 18:52:26 BlueyHealer 18:54:33 ah shit you are IRC. You won't see the 2nd formattinf style. oh well. 19:04:43 No, I see the colors) 19:04:56 Hmm. How to trigger BlueHAIler...I wonder... 19:04:57 What was this about though? 19:05:12 You want to bully me or what? 19:05:22 Only bluey you ^_^ 19:05:32 lol 19:05:33 Sorry. Puns are my life. 19:05:48 I cown't live without them. 19:07:08 * moneromooo out to the shed for a moooment 19:10:41 Why? Puns are neat 19:24:06 retard 19:24:09 ai 19:24:39 that's 2 known triggers :D 19:25:29 ah cool, IRC has a couple extra features over the last couple decades > No, I see the colors) 19:25:36 So what were you trying to do here? Ragebait? Why? 19:26:05 Like, neither is related to what seemed to be discussed here. 19:29:56 Trolling sessions could be held in the offtopic. shall eternal flame be set ablaze, as a symbol of the internet traditions that always call back 19:29:58 Matrix colors come from IRC spec :) 19:30:50 DataHoarder: I don't think that's too precise 19:31:09 Matrix just supports HTML tags in general 19:31:36 I assume you've read C2S spec and the section on allowed html tags 19:31:55 DataHoarder: IRC was the og I guess 19:32:20 I mean, that's generally true. 19:32:22 been over 20 years since I used irc 19:32:53 quakenet days 19:33:08 Based quaker 19:33:20 anyways forgetting this isn't off topic. naughty naughty 19:33:50 I was just confused what was going on randomly 19:34:32 just winding you up little bluey. 19:37:06 why 19:37:28 And why rainbow 19:37:59 BlueyHealer: over sensitive, woke, lqbwoduxhwkwbxysk++++++ generation 19:38:45 Bro typing shit 19:38:56 anyway it was just a wind up 19:39:00 I'm straight tho 19:39:05 Cindy_: you got it 19:39:22 @pw:xmr.mx: Matey, it's not Friday yet, put the alco down :P 19:39:52 BlueyHealer: Zamn, DEI hire 🚎 19:40:40 ? 19:40:53 weirdly enough, I actually don't drink alcohol, nor take drugs. I just obtain moneeo 19:41:27 Monero* 19:41:53 not so smooth transition back to on topic... was worth a shot 😅 19:42:22 @pw:xmr.mx: Honestly based, much better than to spend the money on largely shit