05:27:08 <br-m> <zubairu:matrix.org> Howdy fellas 🤠 > <chinnu> Hi
16:50:15 <Cindy_> I wonder if the monero: URI schema can be registered with IANA
16:59:12 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> that only makes sense for Windows
17:05:15 <Cindy_> gan: What about GANA payto registry?
17:11:32 <Cindy_> This isn't about Windows btw lol. This has to do with a new standard about requiring payment in XMPP
17:12:57 <Cindy_> Initially the standard would maintain its own registry for payment types, but due to concerns (mostly just people wanting their shitcoin to appear on it), the registry was offloaded to the IANA and GNUnet registry
17:14:39 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Similar for RFC8905, handling of them depends on a system-provided URI handler and potentially its dispatcher
17:14:40 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> None of that requires registration per se, for example, I believe obsidian (https://obsidian.md/help/uri) is unregistered, while steam https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/steam is
17:14:41 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> That's even less relevant because that should be up to the client, XMPP as a protocol shouldn't be concerned about that, unless they have a specific XEP which recommends a set
17:14:42 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Cindy_: GNUNet as a project is against cryptocurrencies as a whole, good luck with that
17:14:43 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Interesting that the RFC doesn't really target GNU Taler
17:19:57 <Cindy_> I mean yeah, the ProtoXEP has switched to a generic URI (and not a payment type with all the details in it)
17:23:20 <Cindy_> But the standardization is important for parsing details off the URI
17:27:46 <Cindy_> gan: Also GNUnet registry interestingly has ETH in it
17:28:02 <Cindy_> https://gana.gnunet.org/payto-payment-target-types/payto_payment_target_types.html
17:28:14 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> I see no use in it largerly, magnet existed for ages before receiving any assignment from IANA
17:28:15 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> to not mention that majority of XMPP clients determine clickability of a link based off author's vibe and shattered dreams
17:29:00 <Cindy_> https://git.gnunet.org/gnunet/gana/file/payto-payment-target-types/eth.txt.html
17:30:11 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Huh, interesting, perhaps I shat myself informationally-speaking
17:30:12 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Maybe after LynX moved on, Grothoff became more open to it
17:32:34 <Cindy_> To be quite honest, I'm just curious if you could get away with publishing a payto:// schema standard for Monero to GANA
17:32:43 <Cindy_> :P
17:34:06 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Looks like they don't exactly require a formal proposal with the big players?
17:34:08 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> at least, judging from https://gana.gnunet.org/about.html#history
17:34:10 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> So, indeed, maybe they should be email about incorporating Monero then
17:38:34 <Cindy_> Also this is how the ProtoXEP looks like, just so you know (and I know it looks AI sloppish, blame the author): https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/payment-required.html#usecase-muc
17:38:51 <Cindy_> You're given an error with options that have a link URI inside them
17:39:02 <Cindy_> (and a label about what they're supposed to be)
17:39:49 <Cindy_> Ideally clients should be able to parse them to show the actual amount if they could
17:40:34 <Cindy_> Instead of having the user click and wait to be able to see the actual amount from their wallet app
17:41:54 <Cindy_> So yeah, it would be nice if the URIs were standardized
17:42:22 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Perhaps so
17:47:12 <Cindy_> Also the author, for some reason, REALLY likes Lightning
17:47:28 <Cindy_> I don't really know why
17:48:16 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Eh, probably because it at least makes bitcoin usable, I guess?
17:48:32 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> You can always ask the Nostr crowd 🧌
17:48:38 <Cindy_> Lol
17:49:21 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> If having to keep like 5-6 different open channel is required to make bitcorn usable...
17:49:40 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> send a LN payment, thing try 75 different routes until it find one that work!
17:50:09 <Cindy_> https://git.gnunet.org/gnunet/gana/file/payto-payment-target-types/POLICY.html
17:50:25 <Cindy_> "Adding records is possible after expert review"
17:50:28 <Cindy_> Expert review?
17:50:47 <Cindy_> Do they mean GNUnet/Taler experts? or Monero experts
17:53:31 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Good question with no answers
17:53:31 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> Probably somebody need to shoot up an email to seek clarification on that