08:46:02 <chiselfuse> how do i tell my wallet to connect to some aggregator listed by --public-node? --public-node advertises the node in some p2p native thing, right?
09:13:19 <selsta> chiselfuse: which wallet are you using?
09:14:28 <selsta> you have to start monerod with --bootstrap-daemon-address auto, but this feature will be removed soon
10:07:48 <chiselfuse> selsta: so manual aggregators will return to being the main way?
10:08:14 <selsta> I don't know what you mean with manual aggregators.
10:08:36 <chiselfuse> selsta: aggregators like https://monero.fail/
10:08:55 <chiselfuse> where public nodes are submitted manually
10:12:20 <selsta> I still don't understand what you are asking.
10:12:28 <selsta> Your wallet connects to a node, not an aggregator.
10:19:09 <chiselfuse> selsta: the way i understand it, running a node with --public-node makes it get advertised using some native protocol. you said this feature will be removed soon. so instead of being able to find public nodes using `--bootstrap-daemon-address auto`, i must look for one on an aggregator like https://monero.fail/ and give it to my wallet manually
10:19:31 <chiselfuse> so i asked if manual aggregators wlil become the only way of finding public nodes again
10:21:32 <selsta> afaik --public-node might stay but there will be no way to auto connect to one
10:29:06 <br-m> <321bob321> Using a list with nodes ips ?
15:45:50 <kali_> hi
20:19:00 <binaryFate> New binaries v0.18.5.1 are now available at www.getmonero.org
20:37:08 <br-m> <eddie:oblak.be> Thoughts? https://cryptobriefing.com/norway-arrests-monero-dark-web-crackdown/
20:41:01 <br-m> <gan:skhron.org> @eddie:oblak.be: probably the regular opsec problems, I doubt it's le tracing
21:37:42 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> binaryFate Will that compile with QT6 or it's for the next one?
21:41:44 <selsta> ravfx: qt6 is not even PRed yet
22:44:23 <Cindy_> Lying and saying you're able to trace Monero kills 2 birds with one stone
22:48:16 <Cindy_> You can catch people who fuck up OPSEC AND also discourage future "criminals"
22:56:06 <chiselfuse> selsta: why will the --bootstrap-daemon-address auto feature be removed
22:56:54 <selsta> chiselfuse: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/10690
23:01:01 <chiselfuse> selsta: > Daemon bootstrap was added in Bootstrap daemon #3165 when Monero was younger, to make slow initial sync less painful and encourage users to run local nodes.
23:01:13 <chiselfuse> but i thought it makes you *not* run a local node
23:01:17 <chiselfuse> and connect to a remote one
23:01:39 <selsta> only if you combine it with --no-sync
23:06:12 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> chiselfuse: It will still "run" monerod, and still gets your ip address on other nodes, it just wont sync the daemon
23:07:19 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its essentially turns monerod into a proxy for a remote node. Save yourself the trouble of potential lost funds, and use a remote node that you configured manually and intentionally
23:13:21 <chiselfuse> ofrnxmr: is it really that common for funds getting stolen when using public nodes?
23:13:45 <chiselfuse> how is that even possible
23:13:59 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> No, but and GUI will warn you in most cases
23:14:10 <chiselfuse> warn me of what
23:14:37 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> The node tells the wallet what the fee rate should be. You lose funds when a node says the fee should be abnormally high.
23:15:18 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Warn you that the fee being returned bt the node is much higher than it should be
23:16:14 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the funds arent stolen, they are lost. The bad node doesnt get the $, they just trick you into spending more than you planned
23:17:32 <chiselfuse> ofrnxmr: lol, who would have such motives? people who dont like monero?
23:18:05 <chiselfuse> or maybe miners?
23:19:00 <chiselfuse> wouldn't they would have to have a big hashrate % on the network for that to end up rewarding though
23:19:28 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> chiselfuse: Yes
23:19:41 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Just someone who wants to cause issues for users
23:22:00 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Not miners.
23:22:26 <chiselfuse> ofrnxmr: why not miners
23:22:49 <chiselfuse> what part of my theory fails
23:46:05 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You said it yourself
23:47:23 <DataHoarder> 01:17:31 <chiselfuse> ofrnxmr: lol, who would have such motives? people who dont like monero?
23:47:23 <DataHoarder> yes :)
23:47:29 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You'd need an large hashrate to guarantee mining of a solo block within 72hrs, and youd have to assume that the sender didnt switch nodes snd resend the tx after it failed to confirm quickly
23:47:32 <DataHoarder> someone who dislikes monero
23:48:16 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> Bitcorn terrorists
23:49:05 <br-m> <ravfx:xmr.mx> They know the monero is better but there so invested