00:00:32 Yeah, at least crosoft listened to customers... Not like gnome3 and kde4 peps 00:01:17 It took years this get an usable kde.. Hmm.. Plasma after they stuffed kde4 in our throat 00:01:45 I guess its part of the reason the thing is called plasma instead of kde lol 00:01:54 But plasma 5+ is great 00:02:05 Nuke all framework, just keep QT 01:30:04 /set weechat.look.prefix_align none 01:30:14 woops 05:34:40 Is monero still the king of privacy coins? 05:49:36 @matrixbillygkiller:matrix.org: In marketcap? No 05:55:37 if litecoin isnt a privacy coin, Zcash isnt either 06:00:07 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Litecoin is not a privacy coin, Zcash is though with shielded addresses 06:00:25 Litecoin has mweb. 06:23:27 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Can’t wait for fcmp++ to get those ztrash bagholders cry out loud how they have transparent addresses as a advantage 06:23:41 Dont they already 06:24:16 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: No, they call out 16 ringsize 06:24:43 I thought the story ia that exchange addresses and transparent addresses are why zcash is better. Easier integrations, "freedom to choose" bla bka 06:25:25 That will be next narrative, for now they want to show themselves as privacy coin 😅 06:25:32 i guess zcash is technically more private since nobody uses it. Cant trace what doesnt exist 06:26:04 After near intent implementation lot of btc got dumped into ztrash 06:26:18 yeah, and near uses transparent zcash :D 06:26:34 Thy support both afaik 06:26:58 Not unless that changed recently 06:27:04 All trades settle on your static T address 06:29:00 And then auto shielded somehow 😅 06:29:45 "privacy" coin that exposes all of your activity 06:30:59 Won’t be supprosed their wallets having chainanal integration to keep their users safe 😂 06:31:18 Want to deposit funds to your exchange? The deposit address can be looked up on chain to see evety deposit youve ever made 06:32:00 Thats when i stopped using zcash. I looked up my t deposit address and it made me look rich 06:33:32 @matrixbillygkiller:matrix.org: Don't forget to add the word "(optional)" 06:33:51 its not really optional 06:34:48 its only optional if the only thing you do is p2p or f2f trades with someone else who accepts it 06:35:29 Since, we see, the vast majority of service providers wont accept shielded deposits, wont send to shielded addressesv you dont really have a choice 06:35:32 Gemini supports shielded deposits but doesn’t have xmr, winkle bros are for sure cia 06:35:45 only gemini 06:36:06 MimbleWimble side-chain of Litecoin could be, but that's beside the point > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> if litecoin isnt a privacy coin, Zcash isnt either 06:36:09 and cakepay, but cakepay shotgun bans ppl 06:36:11 nor that's really relevent in all fairness 06:36:12 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Cabal 06:36:21 @gan:sofalounge.club: Its not a sidechain 06:36:51 Mweb is an extension block, id argue its as main chain as segwit 06:37:29 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Thanks for the correction, my memory is just fuzzy then 06:37:53 mweb stands for "mimblewimble extension block" :P 06:38:44 My point isnt that litcoin isnt a privacy coin, only that if zash is than so is litecoin 06:39:21 Optionally private chains. If 90% of their volume being transparent doesnt diaqualify, than there are a lot of privacy coins 06:41:49 I dont know how u:ified addresses work, but z addresses werenr rotatable either 06:44:36 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I categorize Zcash alongside Litecoin. For me, optional privacy coins are not privacy coins. But Litecoin doesn't claim to be a privacy coin project. 07:18:08 Last time I checked more like 99% of LTC was transparent ... 07:27:51 90 vs 99%, same difference 07:28:34 368 mweb txs in the past 24 hrs 💪 07:29:23 @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: how many tx total? 07:29:32 probably like 200k 07:29:34 lets see 07:29:58 171k 07:30:28 so 0.22% 07:31:15 zcash 3.7k total 07:31:29 so unless > 10% are shielded, than ltc had more 07:32:19 not sure which zcash explorer shows number of each 07:32:26 lets ask google/gemini 07:33:58 Sapling: 194 07:33:58 Orchard: 1,023 07:34:05 https://zechub.wiki/dashboard 14:00:26 no, zcash can be privacy coin while litecoin is not, their mweb has way worse privacy than the zec pools > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> My point isnt that litcoin isnt a privacy coin, only that if zash is than so is litecoin 14:00:55 no one even solved the problem that having a few nodes can uncoinjoin the whole thing 14:01:08 litecoin also had an infinite mint bug because of mweb 14:01:47 worse than zcash because it was infinite mint on the trasnparent side 14:32:34 @kiersten5821:matrix.org: litecoin isnt a coinjoin? 14:32:45 zcash was infinite mint on the orchard pool. 15:31:36 @kiersten5821:matrix.org: Is it possible to prove or disprove that this bug was used? Afaik for zcash it can't be proven. 15:39:13 Mweb was used, and then they coordinated with miners to stop mining those txs, and coordinated wirh attacker to return the mint & then burned it, iirc 15:39:42 Er, im mixing up zcash and mweb 15:40:18 I zcash blocked mining of orchard txs, i dont rembwr what ltc did 16:00:59 Ztrash lives rent free here due to ngu 16:06:09 Ztrash still a thing? 16:08:54 mimblewimble is a form of coinjoin > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> litecoin isnt a coinjoin? 16:17:56 @ravfx:xmr.mx: 250k ltc were minted over two separate events https://litecoin.com/news/litecoin-mweb-security-incident-postmortem 16:18:31 litecoin is a joke coin 16:19:01 they did not only have an earlier incident which was not reported publicly but after supposedly addressing it, it happened again 16:31:25 amazing it still has a 3.6 billion dollar market cap after 2 infinite mints 16:31:46 Clown "industry" 16:32:32 Your describing 99.69420% of the crypto industry 16:39:18 Infinite zcash could have been printed and we wont ever know unless the orchard pool is emptied > <@kiersten5821:matrix.org> 250k ltc were minted over two separate events https://litecoin.com/news/litecoin-mweb-security-incident-postmortem 16:40:19 Would be funny 16:40:38 One more entry in cryptoissogreat 16:40:48 @ravfx:xmr.mx: If youre eth, you just roll back the chain 16:45:17 Its why we have etc 18:38:53 letsmine.it @ 72 TH/s :D 19:48:03 Has anyone used XMR.cards? I'm looking to get a visa prepaid card which I was going to do with Cake Pay but it doesn't like that I'm using a VPN. 19:51:52 None of them like a vpn. YMMV 19:53:04 @rb411:matrix.org: Used XMR dot cards, worked fine for me so far 19:53:31 although haven't used that option yet 20:10:42 i bought a prepaid card but i cannot spend it anywhere because it gets denied when i'm on a vpn 20:11:03 i think it's denied at the payment processor level not the card level, i dont see anything on the card issuer website about denied transactions 20:16:56 @kiersten5821:matrix.org: So you don't think it has anything to do with the fact that you're using a prepaid card instead of a standard credit/debit card? 20:17:44 I'm planning on using it on a website that uses shopify/shop pay btw 20:21:55 @rb411:matrix.org: i think all the ones i tried so far are stripe, i saw other people on the website saying it worked for them so i assume it was because im on vpn 20:25:13 @rb411:matrix.org: how much do you need 20:28:50 @kiersten5821:matrix.org: Around $40USD 23:36:57 "April 28, 2026" - the actual fuck, I thought MWEB for litecoin was mature, years old at this point 23:37:22 geez