00:02:08 it says connection timed out 00:02:21 cant even load getmonero.org 00:03:22 hold on 00:03:28 Yeha, Idk what that could be. I don't see protonvpn blocking tor 00:03:29 know im in 00:03:42 ok let me try and download it 00:10:53 same thing 00:10:55 unable to connect 00:13:10 should i just stick my xmr gui that i downloaded with a vpn on my regular search engine 00:13:45 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: If you've already downloaded it, you might as well just verify the hashes and then stick with it 00:14:08 u sure 00:14:45 case claude told me its better if i download it trought tor 00:14:45 for more privacy 00:15:00 get i mean its ai so it could be wrong 00:15:07 Once you have it, nothing much will change if you download it again through tor. The binary would be the same. > <@ollerhahayes:matrix.org> u sure 00:15:22 oh ok 00:15:40 so if i dont want my isp to be spotted 00:15:46 If you hadn't already downloaded it that might be true but that would only be if you, for example, didn't want your ISP/Proton do know you were getting monero 00:15:50 I should always have a vpn on 00:15:53 and im good right 00:16:28 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: I believe the monero GUI connects to tor be default. If you don't want your ISP knowing that you are using either tor or monero then yes, you should keep a vpn on 00:17:29 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: * It doesn't connect by default but you can setup tor as a socks5 proxy before any connections are made 00:40:04 Thanks 00:52:34 Proton has gone to shit because of their wallet > <@ollerhahayes:matrix.org> well is proton vpn any good in your opinion 00:53:15 Use TOR or obscura if required but I stay away from VPN's usually 00:54:14 BlueyHealer: Also I DM'd you can you reply there I have some questions 00:58:42 How do u guys feel about micro cameras in ur walls or hidden in tiny holes around ur living space that got the keys to ur cold storage and passphrase 01:09:08 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/TsGwkqueqZgYgAMHwgTEnkjp.jpg (IMG_20260812_200624.jpg) 01:17:07 @arialimitsstyles4:tchncs.de 5 eyes alliance alert! FED from the UK dming people 01:18:08 Just remember you have rights and you can sue for illegal invasion of your devices 01:19:01 @hughjank:matrix.org: lol 01:19:18 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/IUqVHFQoeifiVrzOAayHLOfF.jpg (IMG_20260812_200101.jpg) 01:19:30 Briefer alert 02:15:19 its been years and they still following that same old tired script? sad 02:22:49 This doesn't make sense to me. If Tor is somehow weaker when used with a VPN, then that implies a weakness that your ISP could exploit as well. > <@jacoblightning3:matrix.org> You generally shouldn't use tor with a vpn. 02:23:09 A VPN is merely trading off trust between your ISP and the VPN provider, but it shouldn't make a difference to the privacy of Tor, right? 02:25:03 Okay, reading the docs you suggested on the Tor website, it seems the main concern there is a bad VPN configuration. Tor should be the last hop in your proxy chain or it doesn't provide any protection. I get that. 02:25:52 I think a lot of people seem to forget that everything a VPN provider can do, an ISP can also do. 02:26:37 @routingerror:metropolis.nexus: If u stay away from vpns then how do u hide ur isp 02:26:45 or do u simply not hude ur isp 02:26:50 There is a greater potential for a user to misconfigure something and decrease their anonimity. > <@torir:unredacted.org> This doesn't make sense to me. If Tor is somehow weaker when used with a VPN, then that implies a weakness that your ISP could exploit as well. 02:26:50 As they say on their wiki page (https://gitlab.torproject.org/legacy/trac/-/wikis/doc/TorPlusVPN), adding a vpn to tor is like adding another (guard) relay to your circut. If you know and trust the VPN provider, this can give a boost in anonymity but not much more than a normal 3-relay circut (or with a bridge if you want to hide tor from your ISP). 02:26:50 Additionally, (while true that a VPN provider can do everything your ISP can), VPN providers are generally more inclined to sell your data (I have no source for this but...). 02:27:02 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: Use a bridge 02:27:19 how do i do that 02:27:23 yeah this is old advice > <@torir:unredacted.org> This doesn't make sense to me. If Tor is somehow weaker when used with a VPN, then that implies a weakness that your ISP could exploit as well. 02:27:30 i know u can create 1 on tor 02:27:34 and comes from assumptions about threatmodel 02:27:35 thats all i know 02:27:45 but how do i put that into xmr gui 02:28:06 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: whonix wiki goes into great more detail 02:28:29 im low q lost 02:28:32 It's in the tor browser settings also https://bridges.torproject.org/ and https://support.torproject.org/tor-browser/circumvention/getting-bridges/ 02:28:35 often times better for your ISP to see wireguard / SSH traffic and then at application layer you are using Tor 02:29:06 room for error comes from trying to route all system traffic through VPN -> Tor 02:29:13 and there is rarely a case if ever for Tor -> VPN 02:29:17 can someone here teach me step by step 02:29:41 youll have to outline what you are trying to do @ollerhahayes:matrix.org 02:29:46 on how to set up my xmr gui for maximum privacy 02:30:01 cause im clearly leaving some trails behind 02:30:27 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: For maximum privacy, you should configure it to use a tor socks proxy that uses an obs4 bridge (instructions incoming) 02:30:48 You should also host your own node 02:31:02 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: I know that 02:31:05 https://moneroswapper.io/blog/monero-tor-integration-complete-guide 02:31:12 and that it takes like a day 02:31:21 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: are you on linux or windows btw 02:31:24 @masayuki:wired.rehab: thanks bro 02:31:26 I can give tuned instructs if linux 02:31:35 @masayuki:wired.rehab: mac os 02:31:45 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: oh, yeah idk then. 02:31:49 *nix enough 02:31:59 i mean i also have a windows laptop 02:32:04 @masayuki:wired.rehab: no idea how to make tor start on boot though 02:32:10 but how do i know it its capable of running a node 02:32:16 You can run it from terminal 02:32:22 cause it costed $400 02:32:24 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: Do you have over 100GB space? 02:32:26 idk if it can handle a node 02:32:35 let me see 02:32:51 You may not want tor to start at boot if you are trying to hide it from your ISP. It is flagged in most jurisdictions. 02:32:58 oh yea 02:33:19 i got plenty of gigs 02:33:20 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: Then you can run a node (a pruned one at least) 02:33:23 in the 110s 02:33:26 100's 02:33:51 @masayuki:wired.rehab: fr 02:33:55 that sucks 02:34:08 mkdir /var/lib/tor/hidden_service 02:34:08 chown tor:tor /var/lib/tor/hidden_service 02:34:08 [... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/wevak6ALQ1N4RzNf ] 02:34:17 then monero-wallet-cli in another terminal 02:34:19 @masayuki:wired.rehab: It should be fine if you configure it with an obs4 bridge 02:34:24 how me check my jurisdictions 02:34:42 is jurisdictions by state 02:34:47 or country 02:34:48 nation 02:34:56 ok 02:35:13 let me se if i can do that in my jurisdictions 02:36:38 i can 02:36:53 its legal in my jurisdictions > <@ollerhahayes:matrix.org> fr 02:37:12 i can hide my isp 02:37:16 no problem 02:38:17 before i start 02:39:04 should i download tor and download xmr gui from the getmonero.org or does that not matter 02:39:09 i was told its not 02:40:13 https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/monero 02:40:17 https://formulae.brew.sh/cask/tor-browser 02:40:18 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: If you're talking about what I said, I was saying that since you already downloaded it it wouldn't make a difference whether you downloaded it again over tor as long as the hashes match. Downloading it again won't improve your privacy 02:40:31 If youre on macOS, get brew installed and download from there 02:40:41 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: that was on the mac 02:40:46 then you can just tor and monerod from within your terminal 02:40:54 i havent downloaded xmr gui on my windows laptop 02:41:00 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: Are you on your windows pc right now? 02:41:01 so 02:41:06 do i do it troght tor 02:41:18 or just in my regular search engine 02:41:23 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: yea 02:41:31 its a laptop 02:41:34 not pc 02:41:42 that doesnt matter... 02:41:52 @masayuki:wired.rehab: ok 02:42:32 which 1 do i download 02:42:34 zip or 02:42:43 installer 02:42:44 you ask questions about doing a triathlon and then ask for help on how to tie your shoes 02:43:12 Use your search engine of choice or something like duck.ai for these simple questions 02:43:16 youre flooding chat 02:43:24 come back if you get stuck 02:43:28 alr my bad > <@masayuki:wired.rehab> you ask questions about doing a triathlon and then ask for help on how to tie your shoes 02:59:24 marathons are off-topic 02:59:31 triathalons, too 03:07:52 Ok i got everything set up 03:08:16 just waiting for Daemon blocks and sync 03:31:32 What kind of legal dispute could get intel me attacked and violent data extraction? Whislteblower stuff? 03:31:58 And no secure os can save u right? 03:32:14 @hughjank:matrix.org: You could reflash your bios chip 03:32:32 https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner 03:32:33 So take ssd out reflash 03:32:41 Its new gen 03:32:57 Not10gen or younger 03:33:15 @hughjank:matrix.org: No, not ssd, the bios spi flash. Also, this should be in #monero-offtopic:matrix.org. 03:33:16 Might instabrick 03:33:28 @hughjank:matrix.org: True, I've had that happen 03:33:48 Ik bro , but can i do it with ssd removed 03:34:04 I see no reason why not? 03:34:05

Is there one for amd 03:34:15 @horizon-foundry:matrix.org: Not that I know of 03:34:16

As well as nvidia gpus 03:34:20

I imagine both are bugged. 03:34:25 Usaid reflash bios spi but linked mecleaner i got 13th gen 03:35:08 Feds are watching me 03:35:58 Nsa prob in here aswell 03:36:03

They do that. Nothing better to do, apparently. 03:37:43 They hacked my windows pc in 2008 and took a pic ofmy face had the agent start talking out of my speaker,i was only 12 , bunch of pedos 03:37:58 I freaked out shut laptop 03:38:34 Thats what patriot act help birth 03:39:05 This says it supports up to 16th: https://github.com/MangoKiwiPlumGrape/me_cleaner_thinkpad > <@hughjank:matrix.org> Usaid reflash bios spi but linked mecleaner i got 13th gen 03:39:21 It's an updated fork of the original repo 03:40:09 You choose if you want to trust it, the README looks to be written by an LLM but it is vouched for in https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/issues/441 03:40:28

They were already doing that in the 90's. The PA just gave them more legal protection for doing it. Most of it is passive these days. Keywords and summaries of activity is what they'll usually get. Most of them need to be punished/jailed for 4th amendment violations, but the judges are all bought and the politicians are drug addicts. 03:40:49

So the degenerates get to run the henhouse, unfortunately. 03:43:40 I still remember the voice in 2008 sounded like a agent deep voice and clear cut, i saw my webcam turn on he said he hows a going buddy 03:43:57 Flipped the fuck out shut it 03:44:41 It was a gateway laptop 03:44:54 Shortly after stopped working thankfully 03:45:55 Should be executed for treason imo 03:57:14 So im having problems with how to extract Tor expert bundle 03:57:54 anyone know how to do that 04:18:30 bro it looks like im doing Hieroglyphics at this point 04:21:02 ive downloaded files created a file and 04:21:10 its just a hot mess 04:21:31 ok, what's going on? 04:22:19 alr so claude says that i needed to download 04:22:34 Tor expert Bundle 04:22:42 then extract it 04:22:56 which i cant do 04:23:13 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: why not? 04:23:29 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: This looks about right, you're stil on your windows machine, right? 04:23:30 windows wont let me 04:23:43 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: ??? Do you have 7-zip installed? 04:23:50 yes 04:24:03 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: And even that isn't working? 04:24:05 know im stuck on that 04:24:35 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: So what's not working? Is there an error code or anything? 04:25:17 no 04:25:40 im stuck on finding extract here in the 7zip file 04:26:19 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: Oh, are you in the 7-zip gui? 04:26:19 It's usually easier to right-click on the file in explorer and just use the extract context menu entry 04:26:48 im not in the file gui 04:26:52 im on the folder 04:27:14 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: Are you saying that there is no context menu entry? 04:27:27 correct 04:28:01 I assume that you didn't click that option in the installer then. I don't know how to add it but you should be able to extract it from the full app 04:28:46 no i jjust downloaded the 64 bit 7zip file 04:29:05 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: oh, so you doenloaded a standalone version? Not an installer? 04:29:16 yep 04:29:27 do i need to download the 32 bit 04:29:32 is that why 04:29:35 @ollerhahayes:matrix.org: probably not 04:29:41 hmmm 04:29:49 so then what am i doing wrong 04:29:59