12:00:47 Test test 12:01:22 Test 12:43:05 hi 13:00:46 hi 15:57:38 https://matrix.to/#/%23refugio_:matrix.org 16:59:37 ^ @plowsof:matrix.org 18:16:30 i don't know how people go by on console without all these fancy new symbols and such: ✨ 18:23:03 console can have emojis you know 19:37:13 i know. but how long has it been like this? apparently 2018. 19:52:06 I remember having working emojis and hieroglyphs in console before some browsers had hieroglyphs 20:20:13 have you guys ever considered what we would do if most nation states made the use and or holding of monero punishable with 10 years in prison for AML violations. Think this is enforceable at all or to drastic to be implemented? 20:23:59 and ill make it a worst case scenario mandatory minimum of 10 for each use with addon / amplifiers if you run nodes or mine as adding and abetting a criminal network and each tx is a stand alone charge so real users get almost mandatory life or at least 30-50 min if caught 20:25:45 I think this may be the end game if im being honest if and when monero becomes a real issue to cbdc rollouts i dont think goverments will hold back in sake of maintaining control so i think preparing for the worst is at least good practice 20:34:00 Move to diff country? 20:34:18 Only way 20:34:33 U will be vagabond 20:35:14 Or utilize rights and tech in such a way they have to do illegal acts to convict u 20:35:31 what if its a global ban for this situation outside of nations you dont want to live in > <@hughjank:matrix.org> Move to diff country? 20:35:34 In that case it gets thrown out 20:36:20 @hughjank:matrix.org: like the fruit of the rotten tree in america? 20:36:21 U prepare for death, or utilize offgrid assets ignore xmr 20:36:43 Trade resources for resources 20:36:50 Build a community 20:37:08 Strap up 20:37:34 Throw gos or pixel in trash 20:37:43 Get a actual secure device 20:38:30 Wiphone or special hackberry modification that ppl curreny use 20:38:57 Or custom batch secure devices 20:39:35 Solar powered hotspot in tree 20:39:54 Got ur own outpost offgrid communication 20:40:29 lmfao 20:42:40 thats my whole bottleneck with modern privacy tech and mindset. how do we protect ourselves where the tools we are trying to use to protect ourselves with needs the same world to allow it to exist its just been a fundamental flaw i haven't found a work around for yet. outside of the off grid farcry setup, what is really stopp [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/5c-goaQLWUNDX0l0 ] 20:43:23 Agreed join monero offtopic 20:43:40 #monero-offtopic:monero.social 20:43:53 monero-offtopic:monero.social 20:43:58 # 20:44:10 already in, is that something talked about in there? 20:44:52 Na these topics can only bevtalked there or mods may ban for spam this about xmr development 20:45:32 @hughjank:matrix.org: ah i see, i was unaware 20:46:22 thought this was the general monero chat and the rest for niche topics 20:46:29 or just more specific ones 21:26:00 @bauxes Good news is monero doesnt need states apparatus to work 21:26:26 might F the mass adoption for sure