02:41:55 @notafbihoneypot:matrix.org: Check zec wallet distribution on Arkham πŸ˜†. 02:41:55 It looks laughable when you see 80% of zec coins all accounted for and "labelled" 02:44:40 a large amount of the shielded pool is trivially traceable with things like t-add -> s-add -> back to the same t-add 02:45:39 they made privacy so complex task , i doubt an average user even bothers using it. 02:45:59 especially that exchanges only support T 02:46:09 vs monero , which you just use it and be private , you don't have to do hackery to be private 02:46:17 exactly, it just werk 02:46:28 @ravfx:xmr.mx: Gemini supports shielded 02:46:41 even bitcoin can be made private if you know enough hackery πŸ˜† 02:46:47 @elongated:matrix.org: the only one that supported, also one of VC funding it afaik 02:47:07 @elongated:matrix.org: whats the guarantee they keep supporting it ? 02:47:13 @ravfx:xmr.mx: It’s is the only one funding this pump n dump πŸ˜… 02:47:22 @kevino:tchncs.de: as long as they don't dump it probably 02:47:45 @kevino:tchncs.de: True. Hard to do with all the examples of how you can mess up 02:47:45 https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Privacy 02:47:47 @kevino:tchncs.de: Who cares ? They see number go up buy villas boats 02:48:24 yaa man , crypto is still seen as investment asset not money unfortunately πŸ˜… 02:49:59 @kevino:tchncs.de: Yep 02:50:08 Biggest vuln in all crypto 02:50:15 can be turned just into a speculative asset 02:50:55 @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: Well so can all currencies. Just that no-one does 02:51:38 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: Everything is speculative, example FX markets 02:51:59 Just remember 1 xmr = 1 xmr 02:55:04 If only cryptos like xmr is stable or high up on the mountains that time its gold to the people who think it as an asset. 02:55:07 Otherwise its just another investment opportunity. 04:16:17 @yusufkhan:matrix.org: 1 xmr is always 1 xmr 04:16:17 your potato price goes up and down, you can consider that as investment if you want 04:33:39 @kevino:tchncs.de: Yeah it is 1xmr = 1xmr for me tho. But not for people in this category. 04:39:17 I also mentioned in the msg that what i wrote is for The people who think its an investment opportunity 04:39:34 .. > <@yusufkhan:matrix.org> If only cryptos like xmr is stable or high up on the mountains that time its gold to the people who think it as an asset. 04:45:45 ok i feel very good about it now ! 04:46:12 but can we all just pump the price a little 04:46:26 How? 04:53:19 Buy some xmr ? 04:53:43 it is up 90% on the year and more than 30% on the month, unless you just bought in yesterday you are doing very well 04:58:55 its funny cus its only seen as an investment asset because its seen as as a potential form of money in the future but that makes it useless as money > <@kevino:tchncs.de> yaa man , crypto is still seen as investment asset not money unfortunately πŸ˜… 05:07:27 irony isn't it 05:14:50 @m4tr1xhav3rl33t:4d2.org: On that point I have a thought. In authoritarianism wealth equals survival exactly because in what is coming money is useless if you can't move it. Kyc btc and downstream crypto is a liability time bomb. We only have xmr and it has been kyc killed. Next phase they will try to kill swaps with last [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/pIbAx6gLaXZnemNU ] 05:17:26 When I read 1984 ten years ago I thought these can't happen, it's insane you can't just not see what this is becoming for two generations and then full totalitarianism. Now I look at all those blind people and damn.. Dude knew 07:00:56 Where is the GitHub want to contribue > <@aillia:matrix.org> Stasher.news (Monero's version of stacker.news - powered by Monero (and https://x.com/DontTraceMeBruh)) now live on Monero mainnet https://x.com/stashernews/status/2096926276992790862 12:31:06 Hello 12:31:20 A Problem with my monero wallet restore. 12:31:38 tell us more 12:31:47 i typed the correct seed and it just gives me a wallet with different primary address 12:32:06 25 word seed? 12:32:14 yeah 12:33:39 which wallet are you using? 12:34:39 i tried monerujo and now i also tried cake. I created it in2022 not used any wallet since then, But used the gui in 2025 i guess once and then deleted. 12:35:50 do you see the correct amount of coins/money? 12:36:10 your old address is still working, i find the old address in receive->account and subaddresses. that is so cunfusing 12:36:21 is an answer from reddit 12:36:22 :P 12:36:55 Not found there either. 12:37:20 Its Actually zero in the balance but i hav3 some i pool mined on the pool so i want to mine and get it out 12:37:45 i dont understand the pool thing and zero balance :D 12:37:57 someone will solve it for you, if your seed is legit 12:38:19 i typed your problem into search engines and some problems came up 12:38:22 There is no amt in my accnt. its a zero balance account. 12:38:24 i dont think youre alone with that problem 12:38:34 why do you recover a zero balance acc? 12:39:07 I never got any from the mining pool because of minimum payout thing 12:39:09 My seed is 100% legit. 12:39:17 maybe you got to rescan all blocks from 0 12:39:32 did you start from a block height like: 1829934 12:39:36 or from 0? 12:40:11 how to do that? 12:40:40 more like 2000... 12:40:46 normally a wallet is asking you if you want to restore from 0 blocks or the block height were you "opened" your wallet 12:41:52 i did from 0 still the same 12:42:30 you can sync the blocks from 0 in 2minutes 12:42:33 it will take tiiiiime 12:42:34 :P 12:42:43 cant 12:43:22 Its like im in cake wallet and did the zero block height thing. but i just gave me a Wallet already 12:43:28 it* 12:44:10 just wait in here, someone will solve it, i cant solve it now :P 12:44:32 ok 12:44:57 try to google your problem 12:45:24 https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/1b9748p/after_restore_wallet_in_the_monero_gui_is_showing/ 12:45:50 on it 12:46:12 dont hand out any adresses or seeds to someone 12:46:44 ok 12:53:16 there are 4 blocks in last 10 mins? 12:53:38 exploremonero.com/blocks 12:53:43 How 4? 12:57:36 can you pls speak in full sentences 12:57:37 :P 12:58:12 Monero Block Time Target 12:58:12 The Monero network targets a block every 2 minutes (120 seconds). At that steady cadence, Monero produces roughly 720 blocks per day (1,440 minutes Γ· 2). This 120-second target is fixed in Monero's protocol as the constant DIFFICULTY_TARGET_V2 12:59:50 But but in exploremonero.com/blocks there 4 blocks in the span of a minute? How? 13:01:27 At least 2 to 3 blocks are in the span of a minute 13:30:23 it can happen , if difficulty is not adjusted 13:40:38 @yusufkhan:matrix.org: Luck 13:41:01 Oh Cool 13:41:50 Hello @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx Can You solve my problem? > <@yusufkhan:matrix.org> i typed the correct seed and it just gives me a wallet with different primary address 13:42:30 @ofrnxmr:monero.social 13:42:40 The primary address starts with a '4', yes? 13:43:50 yes 13:43:51 Are you using a seed passphrase? 13:45:55 no 13:47:53 Then the address should match 13:49:59 The address isnt matching 13:50:07 ☹️ 13:50:14 Im Worried.. 13:51:11 What wallet are you using? 13:52:03 [14:31:47] <+br-m> i typed the correct seed and it just gives me a wallet with different primary address 13:52:03 [14:32:05] 25 word seed? 13:52:03 [14:32:14] <+br-m> yeah 13:54:26 @jpk68:matrix.org: Currently i tried monerujo cake and monero.com by cake 13:54:39 All three showed the same. 13:55:08 I Logged multiple times previously like 10 times and those times its the same. 13:55:16 Same seed same account now its different 13:55:21 Any idea? 13:56:31 So which one is different? 13:56:35 Which wallet now has the different-looking seed? 13:57:32 No The Primary address 13:57:42 My Main wallet address @jpk68:matrix.org 13:58:09 Yes, you said that the primary address was the same between the apps. Which app now shows the wrong address? 13:59:25 All of em 13:59:40 They are showin a different primary address for the same seed 14:00:08 i mean not the original but the same different non-original primary address in all of then 14:00:14 Sry for the confusion 14:00:23 In that case, there must be something wrong, because that should never happen 14:00:40 You can't just mistype a seed phrase, because it uses a checksum 14:00:43 Im unlucky as fcuk 14:01:37 What wallet software created the wallet 14:02:18 i created the wallet maybein cake wallet 14:02:34 on or around Nov 1-4 2022 14:04:11 And where are you restoring it 14:04:43 .. > <@yusufkhan:matrix.org> Currently i tried monerujo cake and monero.com by cake 14:04:52 ^^ 14:06:35 Ok, then this sounds like user error 14:07:03 i noticed it after 2mins 14:07:04 :P 14:07:19 Same wallet seed in cake and monero.com cant result in a different wallet. They are the same software 14:07:27 like? 14:08:16 where do you get the "old" primary address from? 14:08:18 @ofrnxmr: Nah .... Like Now when i restored they are same across all the wallets but different than the original one. 14:08:25 I think we have a slight miscommunication 14:08:28 All of the restores show the same address? 14:08:42 @yusufkhan:matrix.org: Ok, so the original is a different seed 14:08:50 @ofrnxmr: but diff than original 14:09:05 @ofrnxmr: same seed 14:09:20 A) you used an offset/passphrase 14:09:20 B) its a different seed altogether 14:09:24 i wrote it down > <@ofrnxmr> where do you get the "old" primary address from? 14:09:26 Only 2 options 14:09:44 Do you have the original wallet still loaded? 14:10:32 monerujo supports a passphase / offset , the 25th word proves you didnt make a mistake , its the only plausible explanation 14:11:52 did you sanity check this wrong seed by syncing it fully? 14:16:33 They say the 4 (primary) address is different, which cant be helped by syncing 14:17:54 you said 25 word seed? U sure its not 24? 14:18:10 Nvm, im sleeptalkimg 14:18:30 he said 25 14:18:48 i had once problems too with restoring, sometimes i can be "hard" 14:18:57 but i dont think his problem is getting solved soon :P 14:19:01 hola plowsof 14:19:20 hey btcdwed 14:19:55 maybe thats his real seed and he wrote an address he was going to send a payment to, who knows 14:20:21 yea 14:20:44 my first wallet backup had every number i could find written down 14:20:46 just in case :P 14:21:14 i thought about he did subadresses maybe 14:21:27 and wrote down the wrong one? or only the wrong one is shown to him? 14:24:38 btcdwed: no ppl 14:24:41 it was main one 14:31:17 you should read about how to restore a wallet 14:31:28 or you should think about whats wrong at your side 14:31:52 you even told me that theres no amount or real usecase for that wallet 14:31:58 why dont you just open a new one?:D 14:46:49 Unrelated to your problem but you should try p2pool if you can. > <@yusufkhan:matrix.org> I never got any from the mining pool because of minimum payout thing 14:46:49 It has no minimum payout and you can get shares pretty quickly with ~10 kH/s 15:00:38 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org Im Planning on solo mining Some time later. 15:01:37 @yusufkhan:matrix.org: AH, good luck then. You need a lot of hashes/s for that (although I assume you know that) 15:02:48 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: * I guess that's not true. Over time, you'll make, on average, the same amount. Just that the payouts will be much rarer. 15:02:56 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: Good Luck suits the work correctly. 15:03:06 Thank You. :) 15:03:56 Yeah.. Hmm... 15:06:42 vtnerd: does lws work with pruned node? 15:23:12 as soon as i get monero it drops because of ZEC 😭 15:23:13 do we think ZEC will hold? 15:23:57 @fexofenadine:matrix.org: Ask in ztrash group 15:24:56 ztrash lmao 15:24:57 alr 15:25:30 @elongated:matrix.org: bold of you to assume there are reasonable humans in their social space (80% are clankers and 20% are zealots) 15:26:12 . 16:00:30 you should ask this guy https://stasher.news/untraceable > <@routingerror:metropolis.nexus> Where is the GitHub want to contribue 16:08:16 Warning: @chowab:matrix.org is impersonating @chowbungaman:matrix.org and sending unsolicited direct messages. Be careful - do not engage with this account! 16:13:17 @aillia:matrix.org: thanks for your service, can i kindly ask you if I can impersonate you to sell donuts with free copies of the spotify archive 16:13:41 the archive is free if you buy the 500$ donuts 16:14:29 donuts are bad for your health ;P 16:15:05 @syntheticbird: Did someone actually do that, lmao 16:18:14 @aillia:matrix.org: :( B-but they’re so good 16:23:08 try cocaine - it's even better: acts on the same mesolimbic dopamine system but does not make you fat or spike your insulin ;P)))) 16:23:29 i didnt expect to see "try cocaine" when opening matrix 16:25:22 @aillia:matrix.org: FSB recommendation, do not fall for this 🧌 16:26:11 we're in different matrices then i usually expect everything here 16:28:34 @aillia:matrix.org: Makes me sleepy 16:28:34 and it is fucking disgusting, dn' 16:29:51 @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: ...don DONUTS - they are drugs too!!! 16:30:36 @aillia:matrix.org: Sugar is a hard drug 16:30:36 Once i have a donut, i neet to have another one 16:30:48 Hey @jpk68:matrix.org @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx @ofrnxmr:monero.social @jacoblightning3:matrix.org Thanks for your assistance. :) Decided to create new wallet. Sorry if i cause any trouble. 16:30:57 Don't worry about it :) 16:31:00 @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: Fuck i am a drug addict 17:33:42 @aillia:matrix.org: What about in a car 18:27:59 @aillia:matrix.org: cocaine as sprinkles to balance out the effect 23:16:19 @aillia:matrix.org: boof it for the best experience