07:58:10 if someone correctly guesses the publickey image of my input in a transaction , can they infer anything from this publey image just from the on-chain data ? 08:03:52 @kevino:tchncs.de: No. The key image is already public on chain. By itself, it only prevents double spending ie it doesn’t reveal which ring member is the real input, the amount, or the owner. 08:09:52 i mentioned "if the attacker knows my real input among decoys" then what 08:12:25 they public key image by itself won't reveal anything about the sender unless some valuable off-chain data is available for this transaction. 08:14:55 @kevino:tchncs.de: If they already know which ring member is your real input, the key image itself reveals nothing extra. It only confirms that input was spent. They still can’t determine the amount, recipient, or change from the key image alone. 08:15:58 thanks , thats what i was confirming 08:17:06 @kevino:tchncs.de: Np man , i appreciate your time looking at the product. 08:19:50 what product ? 08:20:03 i just asked a monero question. 08:20:13 project i mean ) 08:20:28 unless you created the project 08:20:42 oh i thought you were asking about umbra lol 08:20:53 😅😅 08:21:41 @kevino:tchncs.de: i did https://x.com/umbraXMR 09:24:41 tfw your likeness was used in an ad for closed source software without your permission 10:21:35 is there an option in a blockchain explorer to search by my output stealth address ? 10:22:37 like the same stealth address would also show up as an input in another transaction i did ? 10:42:08 One-time addresses 10:43:38 Looking to find when your decoy has been used? there is a tool for that 10:43:49 ok , so the same address won't appear as a input in another transaction ? not even as a ring member ? 10:44:04 @ofrnxmr: yup something like that 10:44:08 https://github.com/pokkst/monero-decoy-scanner 10:44:08 or was ^ 10:44:56 but it should also match as input in my next transaction right ? 10:45:35 https://github.com/nahuhh/monero-decoy-scanner 10:45:35 oh, i have a fork. Idk if its outdated 10:45:36 i was trying to match them on explorer but it showing different key addresses 10:47:52 ok i'll check it out 10:48:05 @kevino:tchncs.de: Of course. Key images cant be spent more than once 10:48:24 no i mean unspent outputs 10:49:25 i checked from the 16 decoys , none matched the address of my previous utxo stealth address 12:30:54 @kevino:tchncs.de: This software can do that. One of the creators is attending the MRL meeting today: https://monerovis.com 12:31:47 But the website could easily log your queries. You would get better privacy by self-hosting the explorer https://github.com/dnvie/MoneroVis 12:38:50 thanks rucknium ! 12:39:01 yea i will self host it 14:33:41 well its slightly heavy to host it , requires additional 250gb storage and few days to build the db :( 14:34:30 understandable though 14:43:06 im assuming it runa a node .. 14:57:15 yes it kinda builds like a whole custom db 15:46:22 Yes, it uses a custom database as the decoy data it needs is not directly extractable from the blockchain 15:52:14 will it be able to build the database using a pruned monero node ? 15:58:55 Haven’t tested it, but it should work 18:33:52 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/p/5cX5p6sLcFhjX1pK/1.txt (code snippet, 7 lines) 18:35:36 The easiest way is typically to first purchase another cryptocurrency (such as Bitcoin or Litecoin), and then swap it into Monero 18:36:02 Haveno/Eigenwallet/Trocador would all work for swapping 19:08:44 @jpk68:matrix.org: thanks! that make sense, if i go the route og buying BTC or LTC first, whr would u recommend buying it? and for the swap, which of haveno, eigenwallet and trocador would u say is the most "beginner-friendly"? 19:10:05 A custodial exchange would be the easiest, while obviously not great for privacy 19:10:40 You could also see if there are any cryptocurrency ATMs near you, where you can purchase BTC/LTC with cash in-person 19:10:40 https://coinatmradar.com/ 19:11:28 Eigenwallet only works for swapping BTC -> XMR, but I'd say that's the easiest decentralized option 19:22:32 thats really helpful, thanls again. it was what i had in mind, but is reassuring to hear it from someone else. if i could ask one more thing, what whold u recommend i be most careful about, or pay the most attention to? 19:23:15 Not sure I can think of anything, personally :| 19:23:27 But feel free to keep asking questions - #monero-support might be a better channel, though 19:23:51 oh, thanks ! 19:25:11 thats really nice of you, thanks man! 19:25:21 No problem at all :)