01:09:27 Btw selsta the docker run to build the android app complained about submodules and suggested i run "git submodule update --init --force --recursive" and that seems to have made it happy. 01:10:15 This was on your qt6 branch 01:19:23 @jpk68:matrix.org: the more concerning part to me is that inflation isnt controlled on protocol level but by the people that make the money in the first place 01:20:06 or like that was a horrible explanation but predictable inflation = fine but government issued random inflation = scary 01:21:02 Its kindof why I don't like metals too. in theory metals work pretty similar to bitcoin in issuence, corporate mining companies entirely control the newly generated supply 01:30:40 Weird. My device just says "app not installed" 01:31:09 Its arm v8 01:33:05 Though I did not try to install it with ADB, instead I tried putting it on a flash drive and then installing it from the flash drive. So maybe that's why. But I don't know for sure. 01:33:05 I will see if I can scrounge up a type A to type C cable from somewhere and try it again with ADB. 01:49:41 I do not believe this is selsta 's problem, but i got 01:49:41 "Performing Streamed Install 01:49:41 adb: failed to install /home/user/build/monero-gui/build/Android/release/android-build/build/outputs/apk/release/android-build-release-unsigned.apk: Failure [INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NO_CERTIFICATES: Failed to collect certificates from /data/app/vmdl356738690.tmp/base.apk: Attempt to get length of null array]" 01:50:04 It sounds like you didn't sign the apk 01:50:20 I'm not sure if the build script does that for you 01:51:24 It doesn't appear to do so. 01:51:24 I followed the instructions as directed. 01:51:24 So this might be an issue for more than just me, if that's the case. 01:52:32 @shortwavesurfer2009: All apks have to be signed before installing them onto a device so if the build script doesn't do that, you will have to do that manutlly. 01:55:57 @shortwavesurfer2009:monero.social: 01:55:57 If you have the android sdk and a jdk installed, you can create a key with: 01:55:57 keytool -genkey -v -keystore keystore.ks -keyalg RSA -keysize 4096 -validity 10000 01:55:57 Then you can sign with: 01:55:57 apksigner sign --ks keystore.ks --in android-build-release-unsigned.apk --out android-build-release-signed.apk[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/5t7-1K0LNUxyTTdI ] 01:59:27 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: Yeah, to the best of my knowledge, I don't have all that stuff installed. 01:59:27 Unless the Docker setup environment did it, and I would not know even how to begin to look at that. 02:02:09 Just for testing purposes, is there not some sort of developer option I can enable or disable that would allow me to mess around with it? Without having to deal with the signing thing? 02:02:11 Hm... I could sign it for you (with a random temporary key) but then you'd have to trust that I didn't modify anything (although you could still compare the build fingerprints I think). 02:02:11 You also might be able to sign it here: 02:02:11 https://perchance.org/apk-edit 02:02:39 @shortwavesurfer2009: no. normally for testing apks are signed with a debug keystore. You would still need the apksigner installed though 02:07:56 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: Hey, that website worked. Thx. 02:07:56 This is only for testing purposes, and I don't have any plans on using it for actual money. So, it's fine. 02:13:21 Well, for whatever reason, in this build, simple mode is not available. 02:13:21 I really don't want to download the entire blockchain to my phone if I can avoid it. 02:13:39 @shortwavesurfer2009: You can use a remote node in advanced mode 02:13:59 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: Oh, okay, cool. 02:15:13 My Tor Onion node is sitting about five feet away from me as we speak, so I'll use that one. 02:15:13 It's what I use for all of my wallets. 02:24:36 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/itHvMkMaLPGxJEBKRofHWWzR.png (1000010138.png) 02:25:12 @shortwavesurfer2009: Did you set a socks5 proxy? 02:25:12 I'm not sure if onion remote nodes work without it 02:26:51 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: I have the Tor VPN app on my phone, so all data traffic goes through Tor by default. 02:27:24 ah, ok. I don't know how it will interact with a mobile vpn 🤷 02:30:12 That depends on even if I can get to the remote node screen to set it up. Because I tried doing so when I was in the setup wizard, and it didn't seem to take it. So, not sure what happened there. That left side panel needs to be turned into some sort of hamburger menu so that it's collapsible. 03:08:09 https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=monero&hl=en-US 03:08:31 Data for "monero" on Google Trends seems to show that popularity is sort of correlated with price, but not really 03:08:42 @jpk68:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/LKEgygyXLLTzXpSzSlwIbtiZ.png (image.png) 03:08:44 Not bringing this up for any particular reason; just thought it was interesting 03:08:44 ☹️ 03:08:52 Bad IP? 03:09:09 @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: That's definitely not all you know 03:09:49 @jpk68:matrix.org: no idea. Reloaded and it works 03:36:39 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/oIUQvxoYgQTYFxKVDKTfrFIh.png (image.png) > <@jpk68:matrix.org> https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=monero&hl=en-US 03:39:55 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/ZoeBOYAQipCOFfFleZbCRKds.png (image.png) 03:39:56 Yay, Brazil 03:43:57 XMR and BCH have very similar graphs, except the former seems to be dying off recently 04:16:18 foogle trends 04:16:48 ye bch had an underwhelming performance recently 04:25:22 they are planning to reduce block times to 1 minutes. Its interesting but not sure if this will make them any popular. 04:43:43 @jpk68:matrix.org: does BCH actually have any usage? never seen them get above a few percent on every metric, if they are on it at all 06:19:46 @kevino:tchncs.de: I am not familiar with BTC what's did with BTC and BTCcash 06:20:25 @absinthium:4d2.org: can be used to donate to #basicswap:matrix.org 06:27:02 and do people? 06:37:34 @absinthium:4d2.org: BCH has 3.15% usage on Nano-GPT: https://nano-gpt.com/blog/august-2026-payment-stats 07:34:07 actually quite interesting to see they are beating litecoin 08:08:12 @absinthium:4d2.org: It was only added yesterday 09:04:55 wasn't aware basicswap even had donation option will have to add them to donatemonero :D 09:06:56 @absinthium:4d2.org: if anyone has anything else i'm missing from here please request it https://donatemonero.org/ thanks 22:26:59 question is it safe to use raspberry pi zero as a signer? 23:40:50 > Revolut confirmed that it disclosed sensitive customer information to an unauthorized third party after receiving fraudulent requests sent from a legitimate government agency email domain. 23:40:50 https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/12/revolut-confirms-customer-data-breach-through-fake-government-requests/ 23:41:35 if it's a real government agency, then it's not a breach and it's okay 🤦‍♂️