09:00:08 <br-m> <321bob321> Rav does
15:56:20 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/tchncs.de/d75177a8e7d92f8b7bb96036e035669138e4c3f42112573624425644032.jpg (zachxbt.jpg)
15:56:29 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> what is this really about ?
16:00:13 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> not sure what freedomxmr is
16:00:43 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> probably a wrapped xmr kind of thing ?
16:03:35 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> maybe an exchange or a wallet
16:04:24 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> @kevino:tchncs.de: you send stablecoin to them on hyperliquid, they swap it via kucoin to your xmr wallet
16:04:50 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> ohh
16:05:12 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> no someone told me its a ticker on hyperliquid
16:05:30 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> like wagyu has one $xmr1
16:05:43 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> do they have a website? 
16:05:52 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> who ?
16:06:21 <br-m> <plowsof:matrix.org> kevino its an ad 'hackers have been using plowChange to launder billions! so your money will definitely be safe! use them!' see it all the time especially after a large hack so their page gets hits
16:09:05 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> @kevino:tchncs.de: freedomxmr?
16:09:50 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> idk , i don't know where to even trade that ticker
16:10:04 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> not available through hyperliquid official frontend
16:14:18 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> yep, it's exactly like that > <@kevino:tchncs.de> like wagyu has one $xmr1
16:14:18 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> as I understand you buy fxmr, then you should send to some service address
16:14:18 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> have no idea how do they know your xmr address to swap the money
16:15:01 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> hmm
16:15:22 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> @kevino:tchncs.de: I see here
16:15:22 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> https://watchcrypto.io/charts/hyperliquid-spot/FXMRUSDC
16:15:22 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> not much activity)
16:16:22 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> well , not expected to have that much volume on xmr spots
16:16:41 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> but they were under scanner so probably most exited
16:24:21 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> extremely low volume of FXMR. Not trustworthy as of now. We dont aven allow minimum trade for our wholesale OTC traders below 50K USDT.
16:29:22 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> waguy is amazing service, they don't have KYC, but they do have AML - https://docs.wagyu.xyz/compliance-policy?utm_source=chatgpt.com#3-aml-and-ctf-compliance
16:29:22 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> so services like fxmr will keep pop up mimicking waguy, and offer no AML and no KYC
16:35:27 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> what is AML with xmr ? can you tell ?
16:35:59 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> they screen the "source" of my xmr ?
16:38:20 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> i think waygu offers other coins too for trading on its platform , so its a genral disclosure
16:38:46 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> @kevino:tchncs.de: it's not about xmr, but rather coins you send to them. like USDC
16:41:47 <br-m> <kevino:tchncs.de> yes
17:40:20 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> I propose launching a privacy-focused multicoin wrapper wrapping up XMR, ZEC and DASH. And then at 2nd stage we should launch multiple multibillion ETFs of the same Wrapper token. 
17:40:56 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> https://shieldcubed.github.io/thewrapper 
17:41:47 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> I invite critical and progressive suggestions on this. 
18:32:05 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> @zonash2099:matrix.org: If it's not private like components in the basket, why privacy oriented people need it? They can just hold XMR and ZEC
18:32:05 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> Or is it for people who don't want to hold these assets but for some reason wanna still invest in them (like, for diversification)?
18:34:32 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> @yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com: it's designed for the 2nd stage massive cashflow events. 
18:47:08 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> @zonash2099:matrix.org: so the point is to attract people to buy shares in possible future ETF's "IPO"?)
18:49:17 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> @yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com: yes, but immediate for us is on launching and promoting the multicoin privacy wrapper token and then listing it on at least 5 to 5 top 50 CEXes and 10 DEXes as well as on coinmarektcap. 
18:52:14 <nioc> the spirit of monero  lol
18:54:29 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> is it "stablecoin"? Meaning some algorithm will push price to follow weithened price of components of basket? Or is it purely "supply and demand" story?
18:58:43 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.yahniukov.com/MAymshqhHfxW2Bc4Rrtj1T4A8CWRazn2.jpg (I would remove LLM suggestions from page)
18:59:29 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> Also, do you guys have any prior experience in such activities? Or in finance?
19:07:29 <plowsof> What are we shilling now
19:07:43 <nioc> ngu
19:12:03 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> @yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com: We are experinced and we have been launching feeder funds and ETF for our enteprise clients worldwide since 2015. You may see our OTC finance desk here: https://stoxswap.com/finance
19:18:07 <plowsof> OG's with your typical shade of claude website and a link to a telegram group
19:19:33 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> @yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com: It has been removed now. Thanks !
19:20:14 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> @zonash2099:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.yahniukov.com/K7bJ1XTzLd2lrgbCBlOg2EZp2fWdUS7K.jpg (Ooo, interesting idea BTW) one of the reasons Monero was created in the first place - to not let govs to falsely blame you for someone's crime only because the token you owe now was somehow involved in illegal activity in the past)
19:21:00 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> @yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com: Hmm
19:28:38 <br-m> <zonash2099:matrix.org> @yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com: no it's not a stablecoin but rather a metacoin of the stated three privacy coins e.g. XMR, ZEC and DASH. 
21:43:09 <br-m> <pw:xmr.mx> why 'wrap' XMR? 
21:43:09 <br-m> <pw:xmr.mx> I'm not familiar on the subject, please excuse my ignorance/stupidity.. but what's wrong with XMR being XMR
21:45:02 <br-m> <yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com> @pw:xmr.mx: Normies from Wall st afraid to put their money in xmr. Gentleman above spent some time with chatGPT and figured how to make them do it