04:40:05 @pw:xmr.mx: The core purpose of the $PWRP wrapper token is to drive institutional adoption. Many sophisticated investors and institutions with significant capital avoid direct exposure to XMR and ZEC due to exchange delistings, jurisdictional bans, and regulatory/KYC compliance challenges. 06:00:12 Institutional adoption is the last thing Monero needs. Just look at Bitcoin. In 2018 reddit was full of wait until wall street starts buying. Price went high - wonderful. Look at Bitcoin now... Time ticking bomb of compliance, tax burden and confiscation shitstorm symbol of capitalism game theory shifting money from the normies to the elites. 06:03:26 This will only produce investment demand driving price higher which will increase psychological barrier to entry, won't increase use case in general or at least not in the proper pathways. Not to mention mainstream future makes it even more prone to attacks. 06:05:03 The only benefit of institution adoption, in theory, is that it will make it hard for governments to outright ban Monero. But governments have been slow to ban what they can instead choke with regulation. 06:05:16 In my opinion Monero is best served by being used as a currency, not as an investment. 06:06:56 @torir:unredacted.org: This! Exactly. Outright ban creates a riot and forces immediately a better solution. State doesn't play that way 06:09:42 And investment is relative. People hoard what they believe will keep its value and spend what won't which drives things like gold and btc. We hoard monero as a counter to mass surveillance, general privacy, incoming authoritarianism etc.. 06:13:14 @gentlemoose:matrix.org: Aside from that, it's not bad investment at all, price is going up. Even when not, it's pretty stable since there are no speculators on kyc exchanges (cause kyc exchanges don't have monero). People who hold monero threat it as currency, not daily trading position 06:17:02 https://www.nerdtests.com/ft_nq.php 06:22:47 @yahniukov:matrix.yahniukov.com: Pure financially of course. My general view though is that in authoritarianism money (or diversified types of money) is not wealth - it is an option, an escape hatch, a survival tool. 06:22:55 https://www.nerdtests.com/mq/uttake.php?id=293124 06:22:58 amazing 06:30:03 https://www.nerdtests.com/mq/uttake.php?id=220058 06:34:04 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/DGeVxSlxnOhblAuZIivJQxQw.png (image.png) 06:37:53 https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/IDUxbEOpYMgCQCCNEGUJfKAZ.png (image.png) 06:43:36 bruh why are we talking about investment at all? It's not like those guys would help actually useful acceptance, that's all about "line go up" 08:36:12 BlueyHealer: its calledca discussion. go take your meds 08:48:17 @gentlemoose:matrix.org: Appreciate the different perspectives. To be clear, this isn't about changing what Monero is---it's about providing a compliant on-ramp for sidelined deep capital. The native network remains untouched. We’ll keep building. 09:18:31 if you need AI to write an answer like that for you, it's over 09:18:34 lol 09:34:49 --- 09:35:00 pw, go take your meds? What did I even say? 09:35:11 @pw:xmr.mx: the new – ? 09:54:39 --- is Claude 12:14:23 ZEC is an obvious troll but like.... DASH? Who's even heard that name since like 2017 > <@zonash2099:matrix.org> I propose launching a privacy-focused multicoin wrapper wrapping up XMR, ZEC and DASH. And then at 2nd stage we should launch multiple multibillion ETFs of the same Wrapper token. 12:14:23 Anyway, you'll find Monero users in general resistant to tokenization/wrappers I think 12:15:21 dash bro 12:15:33 i cant remember his name 12:15:36 joel 12:15:44 constantly shilling that shit 12:16:56 joel venezuela 12:17:35 sorry, yea, not ^ this joel 12:17:39 xddd 13:12:56 I was kicked out of the room. I dont know why.... 13:15:48 @monero.arbo:matrix.org: I am just exploring.... and in the process of discovering the community sentiment.... 13:22:13 "shilling ai" 13:23:15 Shilling AI? What does it in the age of AI? AI is going to replace most of you humans anyway soon 13:55:37 And we sense ban 14:00:19 how can it replace me? i am AI 14:01:43 "you humans" is funny. you are a human, calling an AI a human. strange, these meatbags are 14:01:56 Is a ban equalling a discovery of the community sentiment ? What's the default mode 14:03:36 We should ban all non-AI contributions /s 14:03:47 he/she was gently kicked for shilling whatever that garbage is 14:04:04 which reads like a scam, but who has the time to investigate every scam or rug? 14:04:51 i would take that translation as "go shill that scam to zcash or dash, or some other community that cares or is willing to waste their time on it" 14:05:22 but i only read half a message from bro, about something something wrapped investment token 14:06:13 Ye banning people is in contrast to agora tendencies probably 14:07:08 And some spiritual norms 21:40:56 test 21:41:12 anyone Online? 21:44:45 no 21:45:21 its over... 21:46:21 question, How many people here have success finding like gigs or random shit to work for monero 21:46:30 and if asking for monero as payment 21:48:10 welcum 21:48:36 I've done gigs for Monero. https://xmrbazaar.com/ is probably one of the better places to advertise right now for general gigs. https://ccs.getmonero.org/ and https://bounties.monero.social/ are two places to work at if you want to contribute directly to the Monero project and get paid. You can also do https://kuno.anne.media/ if you want to do a ask for donations for your work. 21:49:54 god bless i didnt know the last three @TORIR 22:04:22 sawlid snake 22:40:30 @torir:unredacted.org: CCS is down for some reason. 22:42:25 for all of the reasoons 22:42:54 (php exploit) 22:44:46 That's a good reasoon alright.