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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> github.com/PyXMR2025/monero-community-archive/tree/meta
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> You see, PR/issues are in there!
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n1oc[CCS Proposals] SNeedlewoods opened merge request #664: SNeedlewoods-04_part-time-dev-Q2-26 repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/664
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n1oc[CCS Proposals] Lee Clagett opened merge request #665: Mark vtnerd 20225 Q4 Part 3 Completed repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/665
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br-m<hbs:matrix.org> Is there a previsional agenda for that meeting? > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Community Workgroup meeting tomorrow @ 1600utc
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @hbs:matrix.org: monero-project/meta #1363
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> 50 minutes to go
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: FYI: I am not sure I will be able to participate in full capacity while traveling, but I will try.
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Meeting in 49 mins monero-project/meta #1363
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br-m<syntheticbird> @user2570:unredacted.org: ever since kids got addicted to traveling they never wanna pause it to help out their mum
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> breh it did it ahain
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br-m<syntheticbird> damn traveling, it also make them violent
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> @syntheticbird: wut?🙂
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> element is so bad sometimes
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br-m<syntheticbird> @user2570:unredacted.org: replace traveling with online games
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Message delay?
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yeah
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I sent the message at 15:11 and it didnt send til 15:18
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @hbs:matrix.org: And this message wasnt even visible to me when i sent it
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br-m<syntheticbird> idea: let's fucking hate matrix
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Idea: use IRC instead
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niocCan confirm: IRC still working without issue
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @jpk68:matrix.org: I do
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I play rock-paper-scissors when i decide which account to post from
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Joking, but yes, I do as well :)
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> *use IRC
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You don't like janken?
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> I just flip a coin instead
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Id rather play janken against myself. Better odds
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Bad entropy. Seems insecure to me
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br-m<syntheticbird> @jpk68:matrix.org: me when all the thoughts passing through my brain needs to be signed. I refuse to let rogue intruders play against myself
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> I sample 10 seconds of thermal noise from my CPU, get the sha256sum of the output file, check the parity of the hash represented in binary, and use IRC if it's even. Never let them know your next move
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Does anyone know it's midnight over here?
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I’m sleepwalking through this meeting.
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plowsofWhen the sun comes up its almost time for bed
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> plowsof: yeah
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I'm on holiday
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You need to change your clocks to UTC > <@pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Does anyone know it's midnight over here?
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.or…54e73748a6bb2040456581472059392.png (image.png)
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> The bottom right clock is right
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Is wrong***
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br-m<syntheticbird> I think the point is that he has UTC clock
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> 周六 15:48
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> UTC should be the only clock
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br-m<syntheticbird> he knows what UTC absolute based timezoneless approved timezone it is
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> All of my clock are in 0 timezone
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br-m<syntheticbird> exactly
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br-m<syntheticbird> utc supremacy
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I don’t just have meetings — I also need to use UTC+8.
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plowsofMy 3rd alt uses UTC
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: I dont have any use for whatevwr timezone these grass touchers use
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> It’s fine, addition and subtraction are easy anyway.
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br-m<syntheticbird> THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY ADD SUB.
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br-m<syntheticbird> THE WORLD SHOULD RUN IN UTC
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @syntheticbird: OK, BUT OUR SCHOOL USE UTC+8
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br-m<syntheticbird> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: DESTROY YOUR SCHOOL THEN TELL THEM THEY COULD HAVE PREVENTED IT IF THEY USED UTC
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> 5min to go
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.or…c1480ac6c8632040458503763525632.png (image.png)
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> irc
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ofrnxmrIrc working fine here
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I use a crappy AI to translate what you guys are saying.
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ofrnxmrMeeting time. Agenda: monero-project/meta #1363
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plowsofHi
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Hello
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br-m<syntheticbird> Hi
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Hi
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ofrnxmrgmorning
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br-m<hbs:matrix.org> Hello
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br-m<syntheticbird> agenda make no sense. first greetings then introduction
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br-m<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> Hey
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ofrnxmrintroduction of the meeting, then greetings
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br-m<syntheticbird> yeah mb i thought introduction was community news
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br-m<syntheticbird> it was just below
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ofrnxmr3. Community highlights -- anything anyone would like to share?
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plowsofsech1 linked to people already submitting randomxv2 benchmarks xmrig.com/benchmark?algo=rx%2F2
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I've launched a fully operational Monero repository mirror & backup service, with clearnet + Tor access, dual-node redundancy, auto-syncing all core repos. Access: repo.openenet.cn/monero-project and see more: monero-project/meta #1362
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plowsofLinked as in her shared the link lol
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plowsofHe*
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br-m<hbs:matrix.org> Cake Wallet was at EthCC this week, while the focus was Ethereum, some conversations were about Monero too. Did quite a few demos of the EVM-XMR atomic swaps.
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ofrnxmrNews: [Monero Observer](monero.observer) - [Revuo Monero](revuo-xmr.com) - [This week in Monero TWIM](cyphergoat.com/this-week-in-monero) <<- observer still on break, revuo and cyphergoat are active
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ofrnxmranything else to share? Else we can move on to the CCS proposals
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ofrnxmr4. CCS proposals
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ofrnxmra. Baltsar - [monero-mcp Maintenance, Guides, and Demos (2026 Q2)](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/652#note_35519)
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ofrnxmrSince the last meeting, Baltsar has closed the proposal
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ofrnxmrb. JackieXMR - [Set up a temporary news aggregation website](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/655)
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> One more key point I want to emphasize: Monero Observer has been offline for 4 full months now. For half a year, our community has been without a daily-updated, real-time news aggregation hub that covers core dev updates, CCS progress, community meetings, and critical security alerts. Weekly newsletters can never fill this gap [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/_bn7lfYKaTBfQXFw ]
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I can deliver a fully functional demo version within 144 hours, and will provide consistent daily content updates for the community over the next 3 months. Should 3RA return to rebuild the original site, all of my code and content will be made fully open-source to serve as a reference for his site upgrade work.
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.or…e0e6328ce4342040461320356102144.png (屏幕截图 2026-03-23 233236.png)
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ofrnxmrThe code and content needs to be fully open source the entire time, btw
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ofrnxmrHave you started this project already?
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> ofrnxmr: yeah, but not pull
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I plan to submit everything in a single pull request once I finish the work(demo).
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> ofrnxmr: and github.com/PyXMR2025/monero-observer
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I run hexo on monero-repo.openenet.cn
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> to build pages ci and vercel
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ofrnxmrHow do you plan to keep up with the news like observer did?
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> ofrnxmr: but it's not merge.I will make the pull request as soon as possible.
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ofrnxmrdoes anyone have any comments?
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> The monero moon also does a good job of delivering news
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @user2570:unredacted.org: But it’s not real-time.
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: Ah yes
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ofrnxmrhow do you plan to keep up to date?
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ofrnxmrWe're spending a lot of time on this one, maybe people can comment on the proposal or would anyone present like to cast a vote now?
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Update daily just like 3RA did.
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br-m<syntheticbird> I'm neutral on this proposal
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br-m<syntheticbird> no guarantee that it will last, but its dead cheap imo. why not
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br-m<ofrnxmr> I'm also neutral. I think its easier said than done, otherwise every newsletter would be doing it already. unless its like, ai
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> This could also help 3RA refactor Monero Observer.
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br-m<ofrnxmr> @syntheticbird: The rates were increased since last meeting
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br-m<hbs:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: Will it be AI?
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br-m<ofrnxmr> I assume so
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @ofrnxmr: No, I’ll work on it every night when I get back from school
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @hbs:matrix.org: no
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ofrnxmr
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br-m<syntheticbird> someone hold the count for how much time AI is gonna pronounced in this meeting
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ofrnxmr"2. Removed discussions on the two content creation options (AIGC-generated content and manual writing)"
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ofrnxmrThe ccs was clearly written (and modified) by an ai
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> ^ > <@pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I use a crappy AI to translate what you guys are saying.
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Is it used for writing as well? Just asking
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: No
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> ofrnxmr: That's true.
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ofrnxmrok lets move on for now. Come back at rhe end if there is time
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ofrnxmrc. mondetta - [monero.eco 2025-2026 compensation](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/660)
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ofrnxmrThis ccs seeks retroactive funding for the monero.eco project
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br-m<syntheticbird> against
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.or…99a8879f802c2040464268381388800.png (image.png)
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br-m<syntheticbird> too expensive, he got fun doing it, shared it on twitter.
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> Pls provide reason
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br-m<syntheticbird> @user2570:unredacted.org: I hate peoplek having fun
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> His website xcancel.com/schmidt1024 is 403
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> If too expensive pls provide suggestion
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ofrnxmrThats the original creatoe, not the current maintainer @jackie
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br-m<syntheticbird> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: nah you're just banned for some reason. it works for us
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> That's a Nitter instance
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ofrnxmrUser2507 (mondetta) doesnt have twitter
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ofrnxmr2570*
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: Schmidt is hoster and promoter
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> ofrnxmr: True
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @user2570:unredacted.org: sorry, I think I used VPN
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br-m<i2pdk:matrix.org> Sorry I am late, here to help answer I2P questions re: the CCS if necessary, otherwise I'll just watch
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br-m<syntheticbird> @user2570:unredacted.org: ok after thinking with my noodlebrain i don't have a better suggestion. consider my opinion worthless. I'm neutral
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br-m<ofrnxmr> my personal take is that i dont like it. Not the website, i think its fine. I don't like the proposal
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br-m<hbs:matrix.org> I am not favorable to retroactive CCS proposals
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br-m<syntheticbird> @hbs:matrix.org: same. reason why i am neutral
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> @hbs:matrix.org: Why in this case, I do not understand
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br-m<ofrnxmr> i'm not saying that monero.eco shouldnt have some funding, but to request 15k for work done on a voluntary basis is s diffrrent story
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> Project is well documented and transparent enough
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br-m<syntheticbird> question of principle. I would be tempted to be for it because its you and you are nice. But the fact that people can launch themselves into project without wanting compensation and then seek for it because they hear its possible is disturbing to me.
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br-m<ofrnxmr> I commented on the ccs that the (16?)logos designed with input from the respective project maintainers didnt seem accurate at all
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> We can recalculate and revisit another time
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br-m<ofrnxmr> And if those projects wanted logos, why didnt they pay for them
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br-m<hbs:matrix.org> @user2570:unredacted.org: In all cases, not just this one. Did not seek it for my own projects and I don't think anyone should.
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br-m<ofrnxmr> I agree with @ct:xmr.mx here
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> @ofrnxmr: I have answered plese check
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br-m<ofrnxmr> i saw your response and the majority of the ones listed werent responded to
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br-m<ofrnxmr> maintainers for cli, gui, docs, onion explorer, monero block, etc
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> What about all other designes
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> In my opinion, the website is indeed helpful, but it's too expensive.
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br-m<syntheticbird> the pricing match the efforts, i have no doubt in that, but the total price against the final product doesn't match to me
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> @ofrnxmr: Yes this is true, however I have tracked zero negative feedback for the design
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br-m<syntheticbird> that would be discriminatory yet i'll say it, that's a rather simple website for 49 XMR
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br-m<ofrnxmr> @user2570:unredacted.org: if you did a desogn for monerokon, and monerokon raised a 100xmr ccs, why are you asking for funds from the community and not from monerokon (who already commissions and pays for designs etc)?
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br-m<ofrnxmr> I also agree with (don't remember who), but this would still bea hard sell if not retroactive AND a lower rate
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> Can we revisit this next week unfortunately I can't answer today unfortunately
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br-m<syntheticbird> im all for a revisit
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br-m<user2570:unredacted.org> Please skip this time
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br-m<syntheticbird> i mean i support a revisit instead of closing
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ofrnxmrOk, we'll revisit in 2 weeks
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ofrnxmrd. rainbowsofhopeorg-oss - [Exploratory Research on Metadata-Private Network Participation Metrics](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/658)
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plowsofClose
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> NACK
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> AI
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br-m<syntheticbird> PIECE OF SHIT
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> looks like monero space
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Close
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> +1
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ofrnxmre. redsh4de - [CCS Frontend Redesign & Backend Upgrade](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/641)
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ofrnxmrAnd
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> +1
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ofrnxmrf. SyntheticBird - [Site and CCS UI/UX, Transitions & Animations work (4 months)](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/644)
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> +1
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> e. f. +1
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> +1 to both
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ofrnxmrI spoke with luigi1111 and they will comment regarding the backend stuff
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ofrnxmrthere was a website meeting a week ago that none of you's came to 💢
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br-m<syntheticbird> nice
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br-m<syntheticbird> yeah it was announced 5 minutes before the start, I don't understand how people weren't aware
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ofrnxmrHopefully we can get the meeting logs uploaded, but a few design things were discussed, and rando later noted that deno might not be a good option. Diego ack'd a backend upgrade
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Exactly this, lol
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br-m<syntheticbird> We (redsh4de isn't there but i can confirm) saw rando comment.
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ofrnxmrStill need signoff or commentary from core, since theyll be running and using it
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br-m<syntheticbird> We'll develop with node compatibility in mind
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ofrnxmrMoving on for now, seems positive sentiment
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ofrnxmrg. jpk68 - [I2P SAMv3 support](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/650)
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br-m<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> +1 for both of them
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br-m<ofrnxmr> I left a request on the proposal for the milestone 1 and 2 to be combined into a single milestone
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br-m<syntheticbird> +10000000000000
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Which would mean that the first milestone includes a tangible deliverable
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br-m<ofrnxmr> @sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org: Of the website proposals?
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> I believe this has a decent amount of support :)
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br-m<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> (redsh4de and SyntheticBird)
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> And is clearly something that needs to get done generally
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Sorry, my messages aren't sending :P
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: I'm willing to adjust this if it's absolutely necessary. But I feel like I have already been very accomodating with adjustments
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I haven't noticed how many times he's submitted proposals, but I thought he did a decent job assisting with Monfluo's I2P stuff?
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: I didn't do anything related to I2P in Monfluo
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plowsofZero concessions for relatively new alts taking on tasks that can span more than their own lifespan, and require collaboration with the monero project repo , which resides on github currently
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> I do some stuff in Monfluo but not that
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: I forgot which library it was.
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> The whole point of not doing the bounty is to have milestones instead
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> At some point, if we keep reducing the milestones, it's effectively a bounty
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> In between your meeting, to create CCS, you have to submit a PR, to create PR, you have to fork. But gitlab does not allow forking with this error message:
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> Limit reached You cannot create projects in your personal namespace. Contact your GitLab administrator.
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plowsofA contract to complete work, not a bounty
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Also, is consistent activity for over 7 months really a 'new alt'?
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br-m<ofrnxmr> The only adjustments i see are changing from monthly to deliverables and a rate change?
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> I have a decent amount of contributions to many related projects
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br-m<ofrnxmr> I would appreciate if you did > <@jpk68:matrix.org> I'm willing to adjust this if it's absolutely necessary. But I feel like I have already been very accomodating with adjustments
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br-m<ofrnxmr> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: P2pool
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I vaguely remember in the last meeting we discussed you using AI to write code.
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: And more strictly defining certain milestones, and saying the bounty isn't a part of it, and already removing the final milestone
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: No, we did not?
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br-m<ofrnxmr> @0xdosto:matrix.org: Contact plowsof or remind after the meeting plz. We have a lot to get through
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> If I was an AI slopper I wouldn't ask as many stupid questions as I do currently
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: sorry, I foget
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br-m<ofrnxmr> @jpk68:matrix.org: Which final milestone was removed?
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: Sure, fine
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: The requirement for a merged PR was removed from the final milestone at the suggestion of vtnerd
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br-m<ofrnxmr> @jpk68:matrix.org: That was in response to fyodor
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> I misspoke, my bad
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: Of course. Will try not to hijack the meeting. plowsof anything you can do?
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plowsofTwisting reality again
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Oh, sorry
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plowsofYou where complimented for having merge required JFC
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br-m<ofrnxmr> @0xdosto:matrix.org: can you do this outside of the meeting??
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> I get your point, but clearly it can be interpreted both ways
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plowsofThis is what im talking sbout
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> "It might be unwise" and "it is useful"
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Requiring it to be merged, is who @sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org proposal #2 is not completed
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Why*
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Again, I am willing to change it, but please try to see my point of view here
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Yes, exactly
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> IIRC the CCS rules state you can't open a new proposal when you have one still open
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Requiring a merge means is a much higher bar than completing satisfactory work
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br-m<ofrnxmr> @jpk68:matrix.org: Nowhere in the rules is this stated
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> I would not be looking forward to waiting on a merge for 18 months, for work I already finished
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> My bad, must have been from somewhere else then
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br-m<ofrnxmr> right. So changing that _benefitted you_x thats not an accomodation
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Thats a "tip" from vtnerd on not screwing yourself
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Alright then, fine, I will change it.
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Combining m1 and m2 would be making an accommodation
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Thank you
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Re-adding the merge requirement, that is
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Oh what>
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Why? that makes zero sense
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plowsofYour loose consensus terms are the requirement to merge. You have shown a tendency to manipulate reality to your benefit so a hard merge cuts the BS
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Do I really have to do both?
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br-m<ofrnxmr> nobody would suggest or ask you to do that.
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Nevermind, I thought you were talking about the other one
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br-m<ofrnxmr> only change im asking is to combine m1 and m2
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Okay, so the proposal as it stands, but with M1 and M2 combined.
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> How is that?
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plowsofPasting links to patches is not sustainable for reviewers
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> plowsof: Sure, but it's not my fault GitHub has a bad abuse detection system
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br-m<ofrnxmr> i will volunteer to mirror jpks's codeberg branch to the moneor-project github pr
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: Yes, this will work.
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Thank you <3
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br-m<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr: god damn angel
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br-m<syntheticbird> always there to help
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br-m<ofrnxmr> don't thank me :D.someone has to do it
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> @i2pdk:matrix.org Do you have any comments on this?
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Okay, just confirming one more time. M1 and M2 will be combined, merge requirement will not be re-added. Is this okay?
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br-m<ofrnxmr> that's fine by me. Others may have their own view on the matter
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Ok almost out of time lets cont
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> @0xdosto:matrix.org: plowsofDMed you about ^
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> I am also going to clarify the "replace SOCKS proxy path" part
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> It would be a bad idea to replace it; will just be "in addition" for now
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plowsofWill check after meeting thanks
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ofrnxmryes. Not "replace socks"
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> plowsof: Take your time. Just don’t forget it
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ofrnxmrKick dosto
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br-m<syntheticbird> first blood
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ofrnxmror mute. Keeps interrupting the meeting and not taking part in it
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ofrnxmrh. acx - [part-time work on Monfluo 2026Q2](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/662)
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> +1
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br-m<ofrnxmr> I'm a +1 on this
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> I strongly support this.
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> acx is doing the lord's work with Monfluo
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br-m<syntheticbird> +1
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> fyodor muted for now (large quote replies in thread burying meeting messages)
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ofrnxmrty
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ofrnxmrj. [MRL] CjS77 - [Grease Payment Channels -- production implementation and SDK](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/651)
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br-m<syntheticbird> neutral
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ofrnxmrI think we leave this in MRL hands
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br-m<syntheticbird> yes
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> +1 fpr MRL, but im anti asci garbage at the top that might not even display correctly
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br-m<hbs:matrix.org> As long as the KES centralization issue is not clarified I tend to be -1 on the proposal, but +1 on MRL handling it
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ofrnxmr@hbs you can take part in the mrl discussions as well, just better that it be handled in the presence of researchers and core devs
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ofrnxmrk. [MRL] - [FCMP++ Integration Audit](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/663)
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br-m<hbs:matrix.org> On a side note, payment channels were largely discussed as part of x402 talks at EthCC, surprised agentic use has not been cited as possible use case
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> +1
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br-m<ofrnxmr> This proposal is very fresh and might go through some iterations, but ofc im a +1, but same, i think mrl should finalize it and decide on it
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> why there no
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> * name: Phase 1
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> funds:
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> done:
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> "Agentic AI payments" is mentioned in the Grease proposal if you mean that
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br-m<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> +1
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br-m<ofrnxmr> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: Because, like the research ccs, this doesnt have quotes from auditors yet
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br-m<hbs:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: Yes, I meant explicit x402
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br-m<ofrnxmr> So this js raisong moneor preemptively
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br-m<ofrnxmr> is raising monero*
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ofrnxmrsorry sneed, i missed yours.I. SNeedlewoods - [part-time-dev-Q2-26](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/664)
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> +1
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br-m<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> was posted just today, sorry for being late
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br-m<ofrnxmr> +1 anyway. You made it before the meeting 🙃
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> when will sneedlewoods increase time dedicated to monreo
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: Adjusting the paid hours per week from 8 to 10.
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ofrnxmrl. dangerousfreedom - [Integrate FCMP++ into monero-inflation-checker](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/645)
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br-m<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> I intend to dedicate more hours, but life happens and with 10h/week I'm on the safe side
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br-m<syntheticbird> +1 for sneedlewoods
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ofrnxmrThis proposal is only on the list only because a new MR was opened to fund it with repurposed fromds from his prior ccs. Otherwise nothing tk discuss re dangerousfreedom
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> after approval from rbrunner (NWLB workgroup) , ive set the funding required to work in progress and made this merge request repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/659
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ofrnxmr+1 on 659
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br-m<redsh4de:matrix.org> +1
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br-m<redsh4de:matrix.org> sry im late
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> +1
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ofrnxmrm. [Events] - [39C3 Support](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/622)
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> so " 26.25 XMR has been repurposed to fund Integrate FCMP++ into monero-inflation-checker (repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/645)"
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Im changing my vote from neutral to close on 39c3
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Can open a new proposal or adjust and reopen this proposal whenever, but this one is just sitting there idle for months
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br-m<redsh4de:matrix.org> if there won’t be a rename for 40c3, then same, would close
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br-m<syntheticbird> think same as ofrn, close and reopen
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> aka "yes"?
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> if you are in favour of 4 why not 3
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> why not both? unless there is a problem with 3
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br-m<syntheticbird> racist of 3
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> fair enough 😄
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br-m<ofrnxmr> i wasnt in favor of 3, but its over and was funded elsewhere, so i dont think we need to discuss it anymore
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> will 4 sit there idle for months? will something be different?
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> or does something different need to be done? stay tuned
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br-m<ofrnxmr> 3 was opened right before the conference
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luigi1111I said I'll look at it
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br-m<ofrnxmr> making this always a re-payment instead of funding the conf. But this was funded elsewhere (from what i gather)
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br-m<ofrnxmr> luigi1111: ^ re redsh4de
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> i assume they are seeking fundraising for 4 already then if making it too close to the begin was the mistake?
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br-m<ofrnxmr> Thats my 2c
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> if it was (i can say is) funded already it would seem this is just a , charitable kind of thing? would it be fitting as a CCS or better on a personal funding page?
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> i can say is right? like the event happened
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br-m<ofrnxmr> sounds right to me
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ofrnxmrwe're over by 20mins. Everybody get back to your families.
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> @jbabb:cypherstack.com: still said it would be nice, so the funds will be going .. somewhree and redistributed somewhere .. none of our business i guess
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niocjust catching up. Cat forced me to take a nap which I desperately needed. thx Cat
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nioclooks like the meeting is going well, thx everyone
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> thanks for chairing ofrnxmr
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ofrnxmrHappy easter. See yall april 18, 2026 @ 1600utc
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nioc
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ofrnxmrthanks everyone for coming
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> @0xdosto:matrix.org: cat got your tongue? you can speak now, will check repo
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br-m<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> thanks everyone
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br-m<hbs:matrix.org> Thanks all
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br-m<jpk68:matrix.org> Thank you :)
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Thanks all
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: Already sent you in DM the description
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> Btw I was gonna +1 two CCSs. But muted.
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: Added this account to DM too
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> +1 > <ofrnxmr> sorry sneed, i missed yours.I. SNeedlewoods - [part-time-dev-Q2-26](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/664)
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> +1 > <ofrnxmr> l. dangerousfreedom - [Integrate FCMP++ into monero-inflation-checker](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/645)
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br-m<plowsof:matrix.org> thanks for the feedback
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: Sorry, can we defer a decision on !655 until the next meeting?
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.orggot the invitation?
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br-m<hbs:matrix.org> In case anyone wants to try out MoneroSwap on Stable testnet, let me know in MoneroSwap channel, I'll transfer some testnet USDT0 to the EOA of your choice
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br-m<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Can you share the link? I need to try to join from this account again
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n1oc[CCS Proposals] Fyodor Dostoevsky opened merge request #666: 2026-q2-fte-c++-dev repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/666
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br-m<ofrnxmr> 666 eh
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plowsofScary
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> plowsof: Very
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> where is Front matter
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plowsof"This CCS is not primarily about rewriting FCMP++ from Rust to C++" what does this mean
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niocI like the who part "Who, I am Fyodor Dostoevsky."
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> plowsof: I have heard from my friends there has been discussion about (re)writing FCMP++ in C++ which is huge multi month (year?) project. I am emphasizing that this is not related to rewriting FCMP++ in C++
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plowsofThe proposal could benefit from some hyperlinks
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> nioc: You gonna enjoy it a lot then!
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> plowsof: Thanks. Will re evaluate
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br-m<0xdosto:matrix.org> plowsof: Any suggestions appreciated
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niocneed more info
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> repo.openenet.cn/no-reply/info#list-of-mirrored-repositoriesThese are the repositories for mirror synchronization. Are there any that need to be added or removed?
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: > Bad gateway Error code 502
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> 😔
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> I was going to check before suggesting you make sure to archive seraphis-migration/monero
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> oh it loaded! just took awhile. sorry if that's a redundant suggestion, checking now...
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @jbabb:cypherstack.com: sorry, Just a moment, there are quite a lot of people accessing it at the same time.
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> stats.uptimerobot.com/T9lfuWD9HP
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> monero-integrations/monerophp is too old 🤪 I did that like a decade ago. who you want for that is github.com/recanman/monerophp/tree/recanman/refactor
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> but anyways definitely add:
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> github.com/seraphis-migration/monero
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> all
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: is there any convenient way to archive PR reviews & comments? those are gold.
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> and no cuprate love? archive github.com/Cuprate/cuprate too and the other good cuprate repos like github.com/Cuprate/randomx-rs
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> @jbabb:cypherstack.com: emm, github.com/PyXMR2025/monero-community-archive
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> github.com/monero-oxide/monero-oxide
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> github.com/monero-oxide/monero-wallet-util
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Ugh, I’m not really thinking straight right now. Could you create an issue at github.com/PyXMR2025/monero-community-archive/?
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> This repo is also used to sync PRs, issues and releases, but it’s way too slow.
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> I would also consider this important for the ecosystem--and useful as a reference, too:
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> github.com/MrCyjaneK/monero_c
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> I only need to sync this repository; the issues and PRs will be included automatically.sixye4k3ey5fjfjblqtlw66lf3g7qdfqtz4…ro-project/monero-community-archive
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: sure, how's this? PyXMR2025/monero-community-archive #1
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Sure, please also help me check which libraries are unnecessary—my storage space is limited.
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> monero-integrations are all mostly old, you can safely spike those
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br-m<pyxmr2025:mozilla.org> Okay, I’ll handle these during the workweek. Thanks a lot. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
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br-m<jbabb:cypherstack.com> github.com/tevador/polyseed ... i'll just add the rest that i think of to the aforementioned issue
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br-m<hbs:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: matrix.to/#/%23moneroswap:matrix.org
2 hours ago