<plaiwanone:matrix.org> GM

<houseandtiger:matrix.org> any ways to swap XMR to USDT without getting blacklisted usdt?

<houseandtiger:matrix.org> prefer no-KYC, clean output, any trusted sites or cex? also how to check USDT is safe before accepting? thx

<ofrnxmr> Use a swapper that checks their funds, like fixedfloat

<ofrnxmr> Before accepting? You cant. You can only check after acccepting (unless the sender shares their utxo address with you)

<hbs:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: Using atomic swaps you could (though to get xDAI, not USDT) since you know the EOA of the taker and can then check it and decide if you proceed or bail out of the swap.

<ofrnxmr> Whats eoa?

<hbs:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: Externally Owned Account

<heyadora:matrix.org> I tried mining monero

<reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> @houseandtiger:matrix.org: you could use haveno/retoswap, if you want cash it will be difficult to check, but in bank transfert it would be okay, you've already checked it?

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> @heyadora:matrix.org: aaand what happened after? hardware died?

<321bob321> Smoke came out of it

<heyadora:matrix.org> @17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh: I made 1/1000 cents

<heyadora:matrix.org> But the room got warmer

<heyadora:matrix.org> Winter is coming

<heyadora:matrix.org> So it's not bad as a heater tbh

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> @heyadora:matrix.org: yee

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> support the network and heat your room at once

<heyadora:matrix.org> I just did it for the fun tbh xd

<heyadora:matrix.org> Monero seems to have pretty good tools lol

<heyadora:matrix.org> Too bad it's banned everywhere lol

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> just dont buy it on binance then like youd buy other cryptos

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> its that simple

<heyadora:matrix.org> @17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh: I have coinbase account only xd

<heyadora:matrix.org> But I got locked out of it

<heyadora:matrix.org> Owo

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> ok ok $genericCEXPlatform

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> @heyadora:matrix.org: nyaa~ uwu

<heyadora:matrix.org> Lol

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> x3

<reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> yeah i usually only mine on the winter to have a cheaper heater lol > <@heyadora:matrix.org> So it's not bad as a heater tbh

<reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> like you could buy xmr on coinbase or binance > <@17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> just dont buy it on binance then like youd buy other cryptos

interesting, I wonder how efficient it is compared to a real heater

Can't you just buy BTC/LTC and then swap from it somewhere?

<reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> yeah that's a solution, and then swap on bisq/retoswap/trocador

<reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> it's just that you don't face issues with you local tax office if they see that you buy crypto and pouf they disapear in a swap?

The biggest roadblock here is getting any crypto, but since one has an account on coinbase already - what's the problem?..

<monerobull:matrix.org> jah: 100%

<monerobull:matrix.org> computers are 100% efficient heaters

<monerobull:matrix.org> the issue is getting enough CPU to actually heat your home

<monerobull:matrix.org> a 65W ryzen is not going to do much

<reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> no but two Xeon from the stone age, yeah for sure

I see that makes sense! thank you monerobull

<reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> 200W is not a lot but it's honest heating, can work for a room

<reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> @monerobull:matrix.org: false there's some energy that goes into the ethernet/wifi that you loose 🙃

well, the ethernet cable might act as very light heater! /jk

<reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> @reaster:matrix.reaster.dev: "it's energy that will be converted into heat by your home router anyway" 🙃🙃

I can't just not pay for heating anyway, so not much point.

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> processing network packets heats up your network card ^_^

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> just download 100 linux isos at once and you'll be fine

My RPi is seeding a dozen of those and there's basically no heat, the only noticeable effect may be the reduction of bandwidth.

^ Thank you for your service

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> hooftly1 @hooftly:matrix.org: oh right, i guess you wasnt in the monero-community channel yesterday lol, wanna be satoshi? like actually actually? lemme know when u around, wanna pick up your brain on somethin lol

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> and i keep doing the ghosting thing... i sowry lol

the mysterious satoshi nakamoto the mind behind proof of work... I wonder whatever happened to that guy...

or maybe it was more than one person and a fake name they came up with for the whitepaper

hmm idk

not sure why everyone worships satoshi like he's a god or something though heh

You don't strike me as the type that actually wants that or would want that

:)

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> jtrag: i just doing a little trolling, dont look too much into it lol

oh lol kk

<3

<hooftly:matrix.org> Havent you heard Satoshi is the CIA @spacekitty69420:matrix.org

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> lol true x)

Yeah I heard they used someone's brain to solve the byzantine generals problem and make their surveillance tool work. Good ol project stargate and G.A.T.E. marked people, CIA uses them without them knowing. I believe it. It isn't too far fetched to believe imo

CIA already had it planned, were balls deep into trying to get it to work or those that were trying to and their communities. But they knew a certain someone might be able to make it work so the brought it to him in a way that he had no idea it was all set-up.

<hooftly:matrix.org> Honestly I dont trust the CIA with being able to muster the Comp Sci talent to pull anything like that off. destabilize countries and assisinate leaders? 100% There is far more capable agencies working on stuff haha

Tracking kids with certain abilities and using their brains later in life is actually smart af. CIA surprises the hell out of me with some of the stuff they actually do/pull off.

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> too much tinfoil up in here icant LOL

Well no, they used someone's brain to solve the byzantine generals problem

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> i just talking about p2p digital cash x)

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> that is actually used as that

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> not just by the criminals

<hooftly:matrix.org> Hahahahaah you open the rabbit hole dude

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> sowry x)

yeah no matter what has value, criminals will use it to exchange for crime related shit

anything of any value could be considered the same way

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> jtrag: right, the problem with monero tho, is that it wasnt able to onboard the legit p2p markets, including one that has been here for way longer than bitcoin

<hooftly:matrix.org> bater economy == best economy but unfortuately does not scale

why is that though?

what legal grounds ? I haven't researched all of this stuff tbh I'm somewhat of a n00b still with a LOT of stuff in crypto lol

<hooftly:matrix.org> Too many people. We gravitate towards the best which would overwork that "best" and force them to industrialize

it is fked up that no exchanges will even touch it

you should have a right to privately transact if you wish to do so

<hooftly:matrix.org> Its not about legality

you can do it with cash

so why not digital currencies too?

don't make sense

<hooftly:matrix.org> Im not talking about thay

oh

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> centralized exchanges are criminals anyways, fuck them, they shouldnt have hijacked the space in the first place imo > <jtrag> it is fked up that no exchanges will even touch it

sorry I guess I'm confused what you're getting at here

<prancing389:matrix.org> Is there another room that is better to discuss issues with the latest Monero GUI Wallet download and install?

I did notice monero isn't on any major exchanges though, and people should use it a lot idk why it's not on all of them hehe

<hooftly:matrix.org> @spacekitty69420:matrix.org: I agree but they are a product that fits a need that DEXs can serve currently with the UX that exists

decentralized pretty well and I love the fact that it is still CPU maybe to become GPU but no more than that so everyone can run it

<hooftly:matrix.org> Normies crave protection even if its theater

yeah

prancing389@matrix: what's the issue?

<anotherone:xmr.se> @prancing389:matrix.org: #monero-gui:monero.social

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> for bitcoin there was bisq, it didnt get the adoption it needed to prevent the hijacking at a bigger scales from entities like binance, coinbase or whatever, in monero now there is haveno (retoswap & dawnswap), too many people working on monero are centralized exchanges shills tho... that's very unfortunate

I'm in the middle of writing an amazon kindle direct publishing ebook but I'll try to help if I can lol

<hooftly:matrix.org> Bisq has a arbitrator system which I dislike

hmm

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: any videogame you been playing lately? i remember u used to play that space thing, the one that was super overhyped and then flopped, blanking on the name rn lol

<prancing389:matrix.org> jtrag: I download the tarball, extract to Applications folder, where all my other appimages are, and there's no monero-wallet-gui executable and the readme does not have clear direction on the new install process.

<hooftly:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/GpWeDIHKDNtbvWONdcsTxOXG (I am a creature of habit lol)

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> tf is this LOL

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> some kind of pokemon?

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> digimon? wut?

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> or no man's sky still

<hooftly:matrix.org> No Mans Sky that game that flopped 10 years ago haha.

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> ooooh! right x)

<prancing389:matrix.org> Is there another room that is better to discuss issues with the latest Monero GUI Wallet download and install? <<>> there is monero-support and monero-gui rooms

<hooftly:matrix.org> The funny part is I had not picked up a game in a very long time. just started a new game

support might be better

here you will presently hey lost in people's rabbit holes lol

*get lost

<hooftly:matrix.org> Sorry!

has anyone bought Monero from a non KYC exchange recently? If so, which exchange?

I'm trying to buy my first monero coin/s and boy oh boy, it's not easy :|

<spacekitty69420:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: does your DMs work? am down to keep spamming the channel but it might be alot lol

<houseandtiger:matrix.org> basicswap?

lol doesn't the github repo have clear instructions to install the wallet and run it with a gui?

it's probably a simple command like ./monero --gui

nah mean

lol idk I've never used it really. Downloaded a couple of times messed with it but that's about it

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Convo moved to #monero-gui:monero.social and issue solved > <jtrag> lol doesn't the github repo have clear instructions to install the wallet and run it with a gui?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> jtrag: The wrong package was downloaded (cli instead of gui)

Linux executable files don't have .exe at the end etc

oh I see

wrong package would do it too hehe

noice

Linux executables can have any extension

Classic a.out :)

If it can't do elf stuff it may look at bang at the start

Or assume shell

sup

ax562: I used to use Zcoin (a Japanese exchange) → Tradeogre, but then Zcoin banned my account for sending Litecoin to Tradeogre, and now I'm in the position where I can't buy crypto at all.

huh, how does that work

what if you send it to a random ltc wallet that 1 minute later sends to the ogre

All Japanese exchanges are run by out of touch boomers who don't understand you want to keep crypto in a desktop wallet, and all western exchanges blanket ban any Japanese or Japan resident customers for some reason.

yanmaani: The question would be, is it worth to pay transaction costs twice?

At one point I found a way around it, and it involved a VPN to Singapore, a PayPal account, and Kraken. But now Kraken doesn't allow Japanese PayPal accounts anymore.

There aren't even any Haveno/Bisq offers?

remiliascarlet: yes

you can buy something like ltc

and usually ltc->xmr is very cheap

ogre was what, 1%? less? dont remember but LOW

0.2

initially 0.2 but the last trade took 100%

If you mean the initial deposit - first, there is a mode without that requirement, second - is there no crypto at all left from previous use?

Also this deposit is more than any purchase I ever made lol

plowsof: you gotta hand it to them for not exit scamming

100% respect