i skimmed through and they give two similar ish cases toward the end.(51 , 52) One of a bank teller who stole some money (given 4 years on some 'correctional supervision regime' (no prison) and another case where the money was repaid and all was forgiven.

<luigi1111w> "I think it was transferred to..." <- Wait, fluffy is now sysadmin of monerosocial, not pigeons?

<selsta> "no prison" <- And this is important because extradition from US TMK requires the accused sentence to be 1+ year in both US and other country

Not that fp would flee SA anyways

xmrscott[m] no I think pigeons is still doing that work

rottenwheel: it is a witness statement from SA lawyer in response to the statement made by SA prosecutor.

does this effect cryptocurrency in anyway, or has this been discussed already?

seems pretty specific

(as in, not applicable)

luigi1111w: thanks

i always worry that someone will generate my key pair someday.

but perhaps that is foolish thinking

it is unlikely (PRNG notwithstanding)

if you are using your smartfridge to generate monero keys, you might be in trouble

coin flips or GTFO

I used my wifi connected smartspoon to generate my mnemonic seed and I ok plz

Is anyone else unable to connect to the monero.social Matrix server? I am getting an SSL error saying the server's cert is invalid. Been getting this for a day or two now. Didn't realize why I couldn't connect, until I saw the error code.

Upon further inspection, I see SSL cert errors from web browsers (trying different VPNs, TOR, etc). Perhaps the cert expired?

I can't connect either.

sethsimmons: do you know who manages monero.social?

<lotusflare> "sethsimmons: do you know who..." <- pigeons

<lotusflare> "Upon further inspection, I see..." <- Issue is a cert conflict between what server the cert is on (monero.social) and what it is actually for (matrix.monero.social)

monero.social matrix/synapse server is back, took that downtime to upgrade as well, sorry for the inconvenience, looking into prevention

Thanks xmrscott[m]1 pigeons[m] !

<lotusflare> "Is anyone else unable to connect..." <- It's improperly configured, try using matrix.monero.social to connect.

I work with monero.social

It can work depending on if clients enforce proper SSL certs or not.

I'll look at that cert issue, i think configuration management keeps reverting it

The certs current DN is `fider.monero.social`

* The certs current CN is `fider.monero.social`

The only alt is also `fider.monero.social`

ok give me a few minutes

Should probably just use a unified LE cert for monero.social with alts of all of the subdomains

seems to be working great now

In light if recent issues regarding ring inputs being exposed if sent immediately, what is the recommended minimum time to wait before sending.

I never spend immediately, but I want to be sure I am waiting long enough to not hurt my privacy

> <@chad:monero.social> In light if recent issues regarding ring inputs being exposed if sent immediately, what is the recommended minimum time to wait before sending.

>

> I never spend immediately, but I want to be sure I am waiting long enough to not hurt my privacy

1h+ is the recommendation

Median spend is 1.8d IIRC, so if you really want to blend in around there would be ideal.

But that's obviously not necessary.

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