AllArk don't seam to work, they say "one hour delivery" for giftcard paid with monero and been waiting for 3 hours so far.

Need more reliable XMR2Giftcards sites...

Tried cakepay?

ofrnxmr[m]: They don't have Amazon

Coincards?

<ofrnxmr[m]> "Coincards?" <- will try

al800[m]1: I believe coincards is us and canada

Correct

zoom0ut: It work, just received it and tested.

It say "need US address and 2nd payment method configured in amazon account".

But I have no US address and only expired CC in there and it let me add it. (And Amazon.com ship to my country, it's actually less expensive than getting it shipped from my country amazon)

Now I have to add a lot more of them and hope Amazon don't scam!

Good to know!

GL

<joshhavepigdog> My opinion may be worth little to those in here, but I think the tx_extra field should be canned (removed).

We are offering free $20 gift cards of your choice to those who get out and use Cake Pay! Before August 13th, record a video of you checking out in-person or online with Cake Pay and do the following

seriously WTF is this supposed to be

essentially bribing users to dox themselves

* "We are, * the following"

cake always surprises with new levels of cringe

Well, maybe they would be receptive to some less cringe but still effective ways to market their new service?

If they got some proposals

yeah, free $20 gift card for anyone recording a video of them reading this out loud and consenting

holding up govt ID, naturally

I understand, and I share your concern basically, just wanted to insinuate that a good proposal how to market instead would have considerably more punch than just voicing concern

I myself don't have a good idea right now

"comply first" is baked into the cake

You could have saved me quite some typing if you just called for a flat-out boycott of that product, as you seem to prefer, regardless of any marketing.

No product, no dox, right?

cake is already boycotted in my circles. im not here to get cake to change

users should at least be informed about their policies

which they seem to try and drown under a sea of "sponsorships"

Are "traditional" exchanges like kraken, binance or coinbase operating under the same loose privacy conditions?

only the first line of the table you posted seems somewhat justified

Let me guess: Also boycotted in their circles :)

And they are fully right, of course, that's a reasonable stance. But hey, everything comes with tradeoffs, anonymity is expensive nowadays.

KYC outfits? you bet

Meant the share for business reasons part

because I understand that all financial institutions are forced into demanding kyc

they are not forced to hand out that data to anyone they want

<joshhavepigdog> This only applies to their new service known as “Cake Pay”, correct? This does not mean that Cake can see your entire Monero transaction history in your wallet and that they share this information with other parties?

<joshhavepigdog> Why?

the linked cake pay sharing of info form is a standard form required by law in the usa, letting people know what is being done with their info

for the first 2 listed you don't usually have the option to limit sharing of your info but for the following 3 you do, although with cake it states that you can't limit those 3

*required by financial institutions

<joshhavepigdog> This sharing of info exclusively occurs for people who use “cake pay” though right? Not for every single person who just uses cake as a noncustodial Monero mobile wallet?

<joshhavepigdog> Basically, they only share your data if you use that specific feature?

CakePay is a payment app that allows you to pay at a participating the Cheesecake Factory restaurant via Smartphone.

0_o

I always wanted to get fat anonymously

Cake sounds like the perfect wallet for getting fat

Tbh

<jwinterm[m]> "Cake sounds like the perfect..." <- going to be huge

no, seriously, you should probably see a doctor

🎂🍰🧁

w0w those do look good

> spends entire sui stack at cheesecake factory

i had a cheesecake accident... i don't own any monero

> bleches

> slaps gut

I lost all my monero at the cheescake factory

i own zero monero

yes i have cakewallet installed

sgp_ (New Account: @sgp:magicgrants.org): do you know how difficult it would be to get the cheesecake factory menu added to cake wallet? Maybe it can background sync so it loads instantly?

s/sgp_ (New Account: @//, s/magicgrants.org)://

hahaha

if i haven't opened the cheesecake factory menu in a week, i have to resync all of the new flavors and menu items and it takes a very long time

cake pay allows an easy way to sell XMR for things people may actually want, without going through a regulated exchange or using their ID. Is it for every use case? Nope.

Any words of wisdom on the 'most private' way to spend using cakepay? asking for a friend

who may or may not be picking up a surprise cheesecake for a grandkid

Apparently we're able to recommend that especially privacy-conscious users can use a VPN and a new email each time if they want

nice. i'm assuming tor is a nogo?

even tor should work

but you better chat with the cashier while checking out to fill the time :)

s/fill/kill/

sgp: couple questions about the privacy policy

Is says balances may be shared. Is this only for the specific wallet used during the transaction? And is it automatic?

it certainly does NOT share the cake wallet balances, only the initial balances of the gift cards

Meaning, if I have 15 monero wallets, a couple ltc and BTC, does cakepay know?

ofrnxmr[m]: absolutely not

so basically the tx amount of the gift card

yes, ONLY the amount of the gift cards you buy

that makes sense

So, perhaps it should be rewritten

It says

... cryptocurrency wallet_s_, _including_ account balances

Perhaps should say "including gift cakepay card balances"

s/gift//

keep in mind that since we didn't write these terms, updates to them sometimes are glacially slow and require our partners to review them and have their legal sign off. Which takes forever.

Ionia also offers banking as a service for other companies they work with, and this section is for accounts, which are certainly not cake wallet wallets

what we have written however is the open source code, which certainly does NOT send anything about your wallet balances EVER to them

this is why we're open source

same with the location permission in there. The app doesn't even have the prompt to ask for that permission, yet their legal wanted phrasing there despite never getting any info

Yeah, perhaps a rewrite of the privacy policy is in order (as it seems to be sort of a boilerplate / not tailored to cake wallet / monero terms like "accounts"

)

Also, another question.

Its usa only/focused (aside from some online retailers that allow you to use cards internationally)

Any plans for other countries?

sgp[m]: rough location can be derived from an ip/api request- obviously cake isn't explicitly collecting gps location, but it's safe to assume they're using what they can

> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> Also, another question.... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…51deb2e571dbbe438cd3aac4e680232676a)

cryptogrampy[m]: sure, you're leaking IP

Grampy wears diapers

Of course he leaks his pee

🥲

it's true, i was planning on using cakepay at the local big box store for my next diaper purchase

going to video tape the whole thing and send it into vik for a 20$ gift card

change identities and repeat

diaper inflation bug

Be more respectful towards your elders SGP! You never know when you will ve leaking too. Diapers cost a lot

vik's wallet leaking into my diaper fund

thanks for the clarification SGP, this is a lot better than it seems at first

I'm sure if you looked up the MoonPay/Wyre terms, they're pretty invasive as well. But that's not applicable for just using Cake

s/SGP/sgp/

gift cards are significantly less regulated than MSB exchanges in the ways you should care about. Which is why we have a lot more flexibility

cryptogrampy: next time you need a diaper make sure to ask for a donation :)

and c'mon people, the $20 promo was meant for the vlogger types of the world who have an existing audience and want to promote Cake Pay, not a scheme to get a 4k HDR recording of your secret lair

like doug and sunita

imagine hating free money

does monero actually have those kind of people?

like...besides doug and sunita

i mostly do explicit videos so i did not participate in the 20$ promo

<sgp[m]> "I'm sure if you looked up the..." <- Never used and never will :)

most people won't, and we totally get that

I've never used Wyre or MoonPay

Monero.com :P

I dont miss that button

<joshhavepigdog> Good point

<joshhavepigdog> This is reassuring to hear. The privacy policy wasn’t very clear regarding what “balance” it was referring to. Hence my earlier questions.

<joshhavepigdog> Yes, this was my initial reaction.

<joshhavepigdog> Good point. Helps for threat modeling.

<joshhavepigdog> Facts. Merchant adoption of receiving Monero rather than fiat or a gift card seems like a next step for the growth of Monero. Keeps things private and non KYC

<joshhavepigdog> Great point. I didn’t think about it from that perspective.

<joshhavepigdog> True. It’s natural that the folks on Reddit reacted negatively though. Healthy skeptical reaction.

<joshhavepigdog> Based Chad moment.