v1docq47 - monerotopia 2023 (part 3) and monerokon 2023 (part 2) voiceovers and working on xmr.ru is now fully funded! ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/v1docq4…iceovers-and-working-on-xmr.ru.html @luigi1111

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Is anyone able to use Reddit over Tor (their onion service). My account is just automatically (shadow) suspended right after I register

no reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/1al4y1e/is_tor_banned_from_reddit

<p​reland:matrix.org> Problem: burning currency is illegal in most jurisdictions ( not enforced though because there isn’t a reason to….this gives them a reason to)

<p​reland:matrix.org> Also you have to give perfect proof that you actually destroyed it.

<p​reland:matrix.org> Likely impossible with the advent of AI video sadly

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> You would also have to be extremely careful. Destroying something like an iPhone is a great idea. However, you've got the issue with lithium battery fires to contend with.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Some stuff when destroyed is either very flammable like lithium batteries or very toxic like lithium batteries and so could very easily cause permanent harm to the person making the sacrifice.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> However, you laid it out a hell of a lot better than I did, but I have thought along similar lines.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> I just couldn't figure out how the transfer mechanism would work. Because I would be willing to say trade, however much Monero for a thousand Venezuelan boulevars. But since I can't use a thousand Venezuelan boulevars, I would effectively be giving the Monero to them, which would be a loss of value for me, but a gain of value for them.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> In that scenario, I would have required that a video be taken in real time of the boulevard being burned. But again, that would be a sacrifice in the physical world for them and value transfer into the digital world for them, but would be a digital sacrifice for me with no gain.

destroying iPhone is east, just crudely disassemble and take out the battery. connect a light load to the leads and drain the battery completely. then when it's safe short the battery leads and make sure no charge is left. then you can burn it, shoot it, jump on it. won't matter much

east>easy

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> True

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> It would seem to be better to sacrifice something that didn't have a battery in it though or that the battery could be easily removed without even disassembling it. I'm thinking like older style laptops where the battery could be removed or some such.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Even if you avoid the battery charge problem and fire, you still have a big issue with toxicity.

lithium in a lithium battery is miniscule. any regular coworker from middle management will be more toxic than that poor lil battery

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> The author has a point about peer-to-peer trading, though. Unless Monero is made totally illegal, which at least couldn't happen in the United States very likely due to the Supreme Court and freedom of speech, then the buyers would not have a problem. It would be the sellers that would have an issue with potential three-letter agencies, agents. Selling for personal use like enough<clipped

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> to buy groceries or something wouldn't really be that big of a problem. But selling thousands of fiat at a time worth would be a serious problem for those sellers. The big fish is the one that gets cooked.

oh hi, it's you shortwavesurfer. I couldn't read lemon yellow on a white background nickname coloring of you. didn't realize it's you

so you switched to using matrix with matrix bridge instead of going with irc.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> I kind of switch back and forth, depending on what I have opened at the time.

I dropped a tell or two for your irc nickname. you'll receive when you drop by on that side.

wut no dark mode? 0_o

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Dear Reddit Mods, I'm once again asking for approval of my reddit post (I've a new account so no karma)

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Revuo Monero Issue 198: May 30 - June 6, 2024. revuo-xmr.com/issue-198.html

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<m​incberan:matrix.org> Ok, that's a good point. But it doesn't have to be bank notes, just an object that has value, e.g. a high-end smartphone that's then destroyed with a bolt cutter fulfills the same purpose.

<m​incberan:matrix.org> A benchmark or a PoW task could verify the authenticity of the hardware.

<m​incberan:matrix.org> With some effort, it's probably possible to ensure that the task remains local.

<m​incberan:matrix.org> Or, require not bank notes or smartphones as sacrifice but an AI-generated video about a specific topic. One minute = x$.

<m​incberan:matrix.org> You can't fake proof of compute.

<m​incberan:matrix.org> Or ordinary PoW-tasks as "sacrifice", either self-mined or bought.

<p​reland:matrix.org> Hmm

<p​reland:matrix.org> Man I wonder if my GrapeBox concept would actually work in reality

<p​reland:matrix.org> Ehh I already have enough on my plate, that’s too much 😂